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Viper guys - Forged pistons or ABS?

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Viper GTS

Lifer
Which am I more likely to regret not having?

What I wouldn't give for a blue/white with forged internals and ABS...

Viper GTS
 
ABS is useless, i hate it and usually disable it on all cars ive owned that had it. So i would go with the forged internals.
 
Howard said:
I'd go for the later year. Are you planning on FI?
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I wouldn't say I'm planning on it, but certainly not opposed. To be honest the blue/white color combo is far more of a draw than the forged internals. I figure worst case I end up buying a set of pistons in an 01/02.

Blue/White GTS's are premium money though compared to lesser colors, like into Gen 3 money.

Viper GTS
 
Nope. Never had a chance to, but I plan on fixing that in the near future.

There are virtually none for sale anywhere near me, so I'll probably have to travel just to see/test drive one.

Viper GTS
 
Depends on what you're doing with the car. I've never missed ABS with my 951, but I also don't drive the 951 in deep snow or other adverse conditions.

Since I doubt that a Viper would be an everyday vehicle for you though, I'd go for forged internals and play with the engine for track days. 🙂

ZV
 
For me, it would depend on self control. Forged internals will lead to forced induction and then the power trip will never stop.

/Tim Allen
 
I'd say forged internals of course... but then again it wouldn't matter because they'd be high compression for n/a and you'd spend $10k on a blower/turbo setup just to run a lousy 8 psi anyway. So either way, even with forged internals you'd still have to open it up to lower the compression anyway if you were serious about boosting.
 
I would still go with the ABS later models. Scrubbing speed is going to be more important than going fast when it comes to still breathing and all..
 
Throckmorton said:
ABS is good. It prevents you from flat spotting your tires and has no downside.
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This. Especially if you do any track time. It will also help keep you from wrapping it around a tree.

As exdeath says, if you plan on FI you'll probably want lower compression pistons anyway.
 
I wouldn't think you'd need lower compression pistons to run a decent amount of boost. From what I can tell, the Viper GTS V10 has 9.6:1 compression which is plenty low unless you're looking for 20+lbs of boost. An LS2 has 10.9:1 and an LS3 has 10.7:1 and they both get away with 6-7lbs with no meth or ~13lbs with meth. They both have bore diameters approximately equal to the V10 (4") so unless the head design is more prone to detonation, I wouldn't think you'd need to lower the compression. If it responds anything like an LS engine, it will make some serious power on 8-10lbs.
 
Aren't Vipers very costly to maintain? I recall reading an R&T article about them as used cars and it suggested they require frequent, expensive engine maintenance. There seem to be some real experts in this thread, something I most certainly am not, so I'm interested in being educated.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
Aren't Vipers very costly to maintain? I recall reading an R&T article about them as used cars and it suggested they require frequent, expensive engine maintenance. There seem to be some real experts in this thread, something I most certainly am not, so I'm interested in being educated.
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Everything I've read over the last couple years suggests they are fairly low maintenance mechanically. Most parts are cheap, and it's easy to work on yourself if you're so inclined. It's considered to be very affordable as far as borderline exotics go.

The expensive part is the bodywork - You'll cry if you damage the clamshell hood.

Viper GTS
 
Elfear said:
I wouldn't think you'd need lower compression pistons to run a decent amount of boost. From what I can tell, the Viper GTS V10 has 9.6:1 compression which is plenty low unless you're looking for 20+lbs of boost. An LS2 has 10.9:1 and an LS3 has 10.7:1 and they both get away with 6-7lbs with no meth or ~13lbs with meth. They both have bore diameters approximately equal to the V10 (4") so unless the head design is more prone to detonation, I wouldn't think you'd need to lower the compression. If it responds anything like an LS engine, it will make some serious power on 8-10lbs.
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The engine came from a truck, so who knows if it's running close to max compression...?
 
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