"violence never solved anything"

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sygyzy

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I like how your intelligence shined with the direct correlation that failure in the WW's would have led directly to everyone knowing how to speak German and Russian, and no other languages. Kudos to you!
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
I like how your intelligence shined with the direct correlation that failure in the WW's would have led directly to everyone knowing how to speak German and Russian, and no other languages. Kudos to you!

You don't think Hitler would have eventually banned all other languages had he taken over the world?
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
I like how your intelligence shined with the direct correlation that failure in the WW's would have led directly to everyone knowing how to speak German and Russian, and no other languages. Kudos to you!

You are so right!



He forgot Japanese!:p
 
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Got love the fact that you pushed her to violence with a few well chosen words. So much for her deep commitment to non-violence.

"Did you just call me a pacifist? I'm going to kick your arse for that!"
 

Mookow

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Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
:camera: of said hippie?

I dont have pics of her, and you dont want to see pics of her. Or the other chick that was also selling their "paper".
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Vic
I won't disagree with your point, but it seems that your story was badly plagerized from Heinlein's Starship Troopers.
I've read Starship Trooper's recently, which is probably what caused me to mention the Punic Wars. But I dont think he mentioned Communism, slavery, or Nazis in that book. Just because I used his line of reasoning doesnt mean I didnt have an argument with a hippie today.
Like I said, I don't disagree with your point. Quite the contrary, I agree with it.
 

marquee

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Vic
I won't disagree with your point, but it seems that your story was badly plagerized from Heinlein's Starship Troopers.
I've read Starship Trooper's recently, which is probably what caused me to mention the Punic Wars. But I dont think he mentioned Communism, slavery, or Nazis in that book. Just because I used his line of reasoning doesnt mean I didnt have an argument with a hippie today.
Like I said, I don't disagree with your point. Quite the contrary, I agree with it.

even if the idea was plagiarized from or influenced by the book, thats fine. isnt that the whole point of reading? to learn and understand other ideas and ways of thinking? as long as you've comprehended and embraced other people's ideas, i see no reason why you cant pass them off as your own.

oh yeah, the story was pretty funny too
 

kami333

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Mookow

Her: *badly attempted slap*
Me: "I guess maybe you do think some things can be settled with violence. Another convert." *walks away whistling*
That's the best part. :D

I must confess though, I am also not familiar with the Punic wars. I switched school districts about seven times in my childhood, and I swear I covered the civil war 3 years straight... of course I couldn't tell you anything about the civil war either...

The Punic Wars were Carthage against Rome, with the time frame of (very roughly) 300-100 B.C., with roughly 100 years between the first and third war (I'm pretty rough on the dates, I know). The First Punic War Rome won, imposed sanctions, went home. The Second Punic War Hannibal took his elephants over the Alps, ran all around the Italian Penisula, and was eventually defeated and committed suicide (I think). The Third Punic War Rome decided they wanted to wipe out Carthage, made up some excuse, invaded, leveled the city, and sowed salt all around to prevent anything from ever growing there again. There was no Fourth Punic War, because there was no Carthage.

The salt part is just a myth.

 

Kadarin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Vic
I won't disagree with your point, but it seems that your story was badly plagerized from Heinlein's Starship Troopers.
I've read Starship Trooper's recently, which is probably what caused me to mention the Punic Wars. But I dont think he mentioned Communism, slavery, or Nazis in that book. Just because I used his line of reasoning doesnt mean I didnt have an argument with a hippie today.
Like I said, I don't disagree with your point. Quite the contrary, I agree with it.

The point is perfectly valid.. Peaceniks are generally stupid and tend to ignore human nature as well as history.
 

Mookow

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Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Mookow

Her: *badly attempted slap*
Me: "I guess maybe you do think some things can be settled with violence. Another convert." *walks away whistling*
That's the best part. :D

I must confess though, I am also not familiar with the Punic wars. I switched school districts about seven times in my childhood, and I swear I covered the civil war 3 years straight... of course I couldn't tell you anything about the civil war either...

The Punic Wars were Carthage against Rome, with the time frame of (very roughly) 300-100 B.C., with roughly 100 years between the first and third war (I'm pretty rough on the dates, I know). The First Punic War Rome won, imposed sanctions, went home. The Second Punic War Hannibal took his elephants over the Alps, ran all around the Italian Penisula, and was eventually defeated and committed suicide (I think). The Third Punic War Rome decided they wanted to wipe out Carthage, made up some excuse, invaded, leveled the city, and sowed salt all around to prevent anything from ever growing there again. There was no Fourth Punic War, because there was no Carthage.

The salt part is just a myth.

Actually, I just found that out today when I read the link in this thread provided by Demon-Xanth
 

Mallow

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: sygyzy
I like how your intelligence shined with the direct correlation that failure in the WW's would have led directly to everyone knowing how to speak German and Russian, and no other languages. Kudos to you!

You are so right!



He forgot Japanese!:p
Nah, Hitler would have eventually stabbed the Japanese in the back just like he did Russia.
 

BigJelly

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sygyzy
I like how your intelligence shined with the direct correlation that failure in the WW's would have led directly to everyone knowing how to speak German and Russian, and no other languages. Kudos to you!

You don't think Hitler would have eventually banned all other languages had he taken over the world?

No but if you kill people that arent german, then german is the only spoken language ;) (if hitler took over the world)
same with stalin except change german to russian (if stalin took over the world)

The problem is that people manipulate quotes for example everyone knows Frankin's quote as "Those who are willing to sacrifice freedom for safety; deserve neither freedom or safety." Why is it if someone said that then they manipulated it? Because they take out a single word that greatly changes the idea/concept/lesson from the quote. The REAL quote is: "Those who are willing to sacrifice freedom for temporary safety; deserve neither freedom or safety." I got into a discussion with a guy on my campus when he said the manipulated quote and i told him that Franklin never said that and told him what the real quote was--it shut him up.
 

MichaelD

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Jan 16, 2001
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Let's not turn this already Racial Thread into a Racial Thread. ;)

Here's my free two cents:

"Violence never solved anything"


Mmm...

However....

"Violence is a sure-fire way to get your point across....LOUD and clear"

Violence is truly the only thing Man fears. Guaranteed to get your attention. Why do you think terrorists blow sh1t up and kill people? B/C of Allah? Or Jesus? Or their mother? Nope.

It's to get your ATTENTION>>>a schoolbus goes *BOOOOM*

Gets your attention, no?


DISCLAIMER
I don't condone nor endorse violence in any way, shape or form. Humane discussion is my preferred method of conflict resolution. Unless you touch my truck, child or woman. In that order.
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: BigJelly
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sygyzy
I like how your intelligence shined with the direct correlation that failure in the WW's would have led directly to everyone knowing how to speak German and Russian, and no other languages. Kudos to you!

You don't think Hitler would have eventually banned all other languages had he taken over the world?

No but if you kill people that arent german, then german is the only spoken language ;) (if hitler took over the world)
same with stalin except change german to russian (if stalin took over the world)

The problem is that people manipulate quotes for example everyone knows Frankin's quote as "Those who are willing to sacrifice freedom for safety; deserve neither freedom or safety." Why is it if someone said that then they manipulated it? Because they take out a single word that greatly changes the idea/concept/lesson from the quote. The REAL quote is: "Those who are willing to sacrifice freedom for temporary safety; deserve neither freedom or safety." I got into a discussion with a guy on my campus when he said the manipulated quote and i told him that Franklin never said that and told him what the real quote was--it shut him up.

You have it wrong, too.

The actual quote is:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

And the word "temporary" only applies to the context, not the meaning of the quote. If the quote is used in and of itself, the "temporary" is really unnecessary.