Violence hitting supporters of health care reform bill

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marincounty

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Don't forget Fox news already has blood on it's hands with the targeting of the abortion doctor who was murdered. Those on the right have a responsibility to reign in their whacko friends, not encourage their violent fantasies.
 

fantolay

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So we've opened the door to a new approach where Domestic Terrorists can hide behind claiming that they are being Patriotic
and making sure that only the radical minority viewpoint is seen as a valid method?

When the GOP members gathered on the balcony to cheer on the fools who were being distruprive, they proved that they are clueless.

Limbaugh and his cowardly attacks hiding behind 'The Freedom of Speech' to insite a possibility of riots is called Sedition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

Sedition is a high crime against the United States Government, a felony, and should be enforced where there is cause.

You might know what sedition is, but you can't spell incite properly, so your argument loses all validity.
 

Zorkorist

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They are already saying that the Tea Party will split the Conservative vote, much like when Clinton won his second term over Ross Perot.

I'm not making the same mistake this time, but I am voting for the tea-party candidate.

-John
 

werepossum

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They are already saying that the Tea Party will split the Conservative vote, much like when Clinton won his second term over Ross Perot.

I'm not making the same mistake this time, but I am voting for the tea-party candidate.

-John
Quite possibly. If the Republicans and the Tea Party can't come to some agreement, then they deserve to split the vote and both lose. I've had it up to here with single issue idiots. (Although, granted my own Libertarian Party seems to have devolved into the legalized narcotics party.) Personally I'm very chary of voting for anyone associated with the Tea Party.

I'm not entirely convinced that the Republicans will be any better. Hell, I'm not entirely convinced that the Republicans will be any different!
 

Zorkorist

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As a Libertarian, I know your are used to voting on the edge.

I have voted Republican my whole life, but I am willing to vote tea-party now, just to pssibly save America. I almost voted Perot, and will never excuse myself for not voting him.

Anyway, prople that are ashamed they didn't vote Perot, that Perot lost handily, shoulf switch to the Tea Party, NOW.

Don't do it later... do it now.

-John
 

werepossum

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Speaking of violence against members of Congress, the FBI just arrested a man who made over 2,000 videos threatening to kill, of all people, Mickey Cantor, #2 Republican in the House, and his family.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62S4FI20100329

He allegedly also threatened other Republicans and at least ten Democrats (equal opportunity nut), so I'm not sure why he was charged specifically with threats against Cantor. Perhaps it's not a real threat unless you're in leadership? LOL
 

Zorkorist

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I'm sure the feds are a bit edjy right now.

Near me, Congresswoman Markey is being threatened.

-John
 
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dmcowen674

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I'm sure the feds are a bit edjy right now.

Near me, Congresswoman Markey is being threatened.

-John

Republicans and their America hating radical supporters should be targeting the real culprits for the Health Care reform going through, their Health Insurance buddies.

They are the ones that kept racking up double digit increases far beyonf the rate of inflation.

3-30-2010
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100330/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_overhaul_children_s_coverage

Insurance industry agrees to fix kids coverage gap


After battling President Barack Obama's health care overhaul the better part of a year, the insurance industry said Monday it won't try to block his efforts to fix a potentially embarrassing glitch in the new law. In a letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, the industry's top lobbyist said insurers will accept new regulations to dispel uncertainty over a much-publicized guarantee that children with medical problems can get coverage starting this year.


Quick resolution of the doubts was a win for Obama — and a sign that the industry has no stomach for another war of words with a president who deftly used double-digit rate hikes by the companies to revive his sweeping health care legislation from near collapse in Congress.

"Health insurance reform is designed to prevent any child from being denied coverage because he or she has a pre-existing condition," Sebelius wrote to Ignagni. "Now is not the time to search for nonexistent loopholes that preserve a broken system."

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They also denied coverage for a 10 day old baby stating that they won't a pre-existing condition from inside the womb.

I'm sure somehow Republicans will say the baby being developed with a condition is somehow Democrats and Obama's fault.
 

Zorkorist

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Obama, and his lilly-livered liberals need to know to what extent the majority of Americans are against his Socialist Agenda and Health Care "reform."

-John
 
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cubby1223

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100% of Republicans != majority of Americans.

You're not trying to imply that 281 Democrats out of ~300m Americans is a majority?

I'm curious, do you actually wake up each day and ask yourself "How can I be even more irrelevant today than yesterday?"
 

dmcowen674

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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
100% of Republicans != majority of Americans.


You're not trying to imply that 281 Democrats out of ~300m Americans is a majority?

I'm curious, do you actually wake up each day and ask yourself "How can I be even more irrelevant today than yesterday?"

and you are obfuscating.

America hating Republicans keep spouting nonsense that a majority of Americans oppose Health Care reform and that is simply not true.

Yes, 100% of Republicans are against it but that does not equal a majority of Americans, period.
 
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They are already saying that the Tea Party will split the Conservative vote, much like when Clinton won his second term over Ross Perot.

I'm not making the same mistake this time, but I am voting for the tea-party candidate.

-John

Even if that candidate is Caribou Barbie? You'd really vote for her over anyone else?
 
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Obama, and his lilly-livered liberals need to know to what extent the majority of Americans are against his Socialist Agenda and Health Care "reform."

-John

Ok, I rescind that question about if you'd vote for caribou barbie, you'd probably do violence on her behalf after reading this bullshit.
 

nonlnear

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...es-hit-hard-by-health-care-bill-89347127.html

When you have pricks like pigface trying to pull shit like this, I have a hard time feeling bad when bricks go through their windows.

If it really has come to this:
TFA said:
"After the president signed the health care reform bill into law, your company announced that provisions in the law could adversely affect your ability to provide health insurance," Waxman wrote to Randall Stephenson, chairman and CEO of AT&T. A few hours before Waxman sent his letter, AT&T announced it will take a $1 billion charge against earnings because of the tax provision in the new health bill. AT&T also said it will be "evaluating prospective changes" to its health care benefits for all workers.

Waxman's letter suggests he does not accept the company's decision. "The new law is designed to expand coverage and bring down costs, so your assertions are a matter of concern," Waxman wrote to Stephenson, in addition to letters to Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg, Caterpillar CEO James Owens, and Deere & Company CEO Samuel Allen. The companies' decisions, Waxman wrote, "appear to conflict with independent analyses."
then it really might be the beginning of the end.

If the companies' decisions conflict with independent analyses, then their obviously flawed decisions will hurt them. Some other company will see the flaw and take the opportunity to be more profitable than the errant ones. If Congress is not prepared to let nature take its course, but rather prefers to request (wink wink) executives' time to come and "explain themselves", then we really have crossed a scary threshold.

Of course it's the Examiner and those are very brief quotes so I'll wait for a LOT more detail, but it's something to watch...
 
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If it really has come to this:then it really might be the beginning of the end.

If the companies' decisions conflict with independent analyses, then their obviously flawed decisions will hurt them. Some other company will see the flaw and take the opportunity to be more profitable than the errant ones. If Congress is not prepared to let nature take its course, but rather prefers to request (wink wink) executives' time to come and "explain themselves", then we really have crossed a scary threshold.

Of course it's the Examiner and those are very brief quotes so I'll wait for a LOT more detail, but it's something to watch...
...and insurance company stocks immediately advanced on the news. I heard this morning (financial analyst from Fortune Magazine) that insurance prices are significantly increasing in anticipation of increased liabilities.

And what's really funny...Dave thinks it's the Republicans who's in bed with their "Health Insurance buddies". Reality never was his strong suit....but I had to chuckle. Now I shake my head wondering what we've really accomplished here to reduce healthcare costs. But then again...I never bought that lie in the first place.
 

alchemize

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So just curious, of all this violence against democrats, how many have been arrested, and how many charges have been filed?