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VulgarDisplay

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Because in all other tests from this particular preview the results are much more in line with what is to be expected - that is a ~ 10% difference between the 780 and Titan. Certainly you don't think that the TIM affects one benchmark but not the next 5 mins later.

The 780s and Titan are not boosting higher than 1 GHz at maximum. Otherwise it would be overclocking and that certainly would have been noted on the diagrams.

That's why I said depending on what they have done to them. I thought at stock they could go up to around 1050-1100?
 

Rvenger

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My 78% ASIC score Titan boosted to 1045mhz. The higher the ASIC score the higher the dynamic boost. My 61.3% ASIC score 780 boosted to only 966mhz. 79mhz clock speed difference and yes the boost can go way past 1000mhz unlike what Boxleitnerb was saying.
 

boxleitnerb

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I'm sure nvidia gives reviewers bottom of the barrel cards so people don't get their hopes up right?

So you alledge that specially selected cards are sent out? How I love these claims without proof :D

I've seen reviews where Titans clock lower than mine do, for example. My guess: Some review samples are good, some are bad. A truly shocking possibility :eek:
 

Erenhardt

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So you alledge that specially selected cards are sent out? How I love these claims without proof :D

I've seen reviews where Titans clock lower than mine do, for example.

Such an outstanding example and irrefutable (?) proof. Lost my words...:rolleyes:
 

Rvenger

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Do you actually see the realtime boost clock on reviews or do you normally see what the advertised clocks are? I can bet you only see the advertised clocks on most reviews (Except for [H] that I am sure of. I am almost certain that the Nvidia review criteria wants the reviewers to show advertised speeds instead of the actual dynamic boost clocks. It makes their cards look better clock for clock when in fact they are not.

Don't get me wrong but I do think the feature is neat due to the fact it's giving you more performance as long as it doesn't exceed the TDP.
 
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boxleitnerb

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Such an outstanding example and irrefutable (?) proof. Lost my words...:rolleyes:

What is your problem? My Titans boost to 1006 MHz, but the Titans@AT and CB top out at 993 MHz.

I don't even know why I entertain your trolling...

Do you actually see the realtime boost clock on reviews or do you normally see what the advertised clocks are? I can bet you only see the advertised clocks on most reviews (Except for [H] that I am sure of. I am almost certain that the Nvidia review criteria wants the reviewers to show advertised speeds instead of the actual dynamic boost clocks. It makes their cards look better clock for clock when in fact they are not.

Afaik, Nvidia wants a cool testing environment so that the clocks go up. Nvidia guarantees the base clock, anything beyond that is "good luck" and depends on the ambient conditions, especially temperature. And temperature depends on the benchmarking procedure: Longer benchmarks -> higher temperature -> temp target is hit -> clocks go down
And no, clocks don't have any influence on per-clock-performance, that is an oxymoron ;)
 
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Vesku

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http://techreport.com/news/25526/internal-amd-benchmarks-show-r9-290x-beating-gtx-780

"The R9 290X outruns the GTX 780 by 18% in BioShock Infinite and by 17% in Tomb Raider. Not bad.

Now, I should point out some caveats. First, these results come from AMD itself, and we haven't verified them just yet. Heck, we don't even know which parts of the game and which drivers were used for testing. Second, the numbers were run on a 4K display; performance at more pedestrian resolutions might be different. Third, AMD is quoting only FPS averages, which don't tell the whole story. I wouldn't expect average FPS figures to be too terribly off the mark on single-GPU setups like these, though."
 

Erenhardt

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here it is. 4K resolution:
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What is your problem?
I've seen an ant pushing up elephant. If you can't see irony in your post, then I am very sorry for you.
 
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Gikaseixas

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A card with dual personalities eh? GTX780 killer mode and Titan killer mode :whiste:
 

RussianSensation

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That performance watt is on the important totem pole but not on the top to me.

General statement that has nothing to do with what's being discussed in detail wrt to R9 290X vs. 780's power usage.

Efficiency matters but where the subjective threshold is may differ based on individual.

General statement that has nothing to do with what's being discussed in detail. Generic sentences from a PR handbook do not contribute to a forum discussion. Might as well create an auto bot.

First actual reviewer benchmarks. Wish they could of at least told us NDA lift ffs.

Oh wow, looks like team green is going to have to switch to PhysX being the key graphical advantage now -- A 438mm2 chip spanking a 561mm2 must be one one of the most embarrassing moments for NV's Kepler architecture. I realize that for consumers die size doesn't matter but NV engineers will have a field day returning to the office Monday morning. Good thing NV's marketing got them covered. :D
 
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boxleitnerb

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Oh wow, looks like team green is going to have to switch to PhysX being the key graphical advantage now -- A 438mm2 chip spanking a 561mm2 must be one one of the most embarrassing moments for NV's Kepler architecture. I realize that for consumers die size doesn't matter but NV engineers will have a field day returning to the office Monday morning. Good thing NV's marketing got them covered. :D

You mean a 561mm2 chip that has 960 dedicated DP units that use about 50mm2, that is quite conservatively clocked and has 20% fused off and on top is about a year older? Shocking! :eek:

I rather think this comment is embarrasing for you because you didn't do all your research. We don't need flames here at AT forums, and that is exactly what your comment is. Post reported.

Warning issued for callout.
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Skurge

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You mean a 561mm2 chip that has 960 dedicated DP units that use about 50mm2, that is quite conservatively clocked and has 20% fused off and on top is about a year older? Shocking! :eek:

I rather think this comment is embarrasing for you because you didn't do all your research. We don't need flames here at AT forums, and that is exactly what your comment is. Post reported.

That even worse for nV cause they still don't have a fully functioning card on the desktop. I wouldn't call Titan or GTX780 conservatively clocked seeing as ref models boost to 1ghz. 7950 is clocked low.

Hawaii is a lot more impressive than GK110 IMO, we just need to see power numbers.
 

Rvenger

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You mean a 561mm2 chip that has 960 dedicated DP units that use about 50mm2, that is quite conservatively clocked and has 20% fused off and on top is about a year older? Shocking! :eek:

I rather think this comment is embarrasing for you because you didn't do all your research. We don't need flames here at AT forums, and that is exactly what your comment is. Post reported.



Here we go about the statements of Titan being a year old now.

I'm glad 1 year is 8 months long now. I don't have to wait as long for product refreshes.