Question [Videocardz] nVidia planning 2060 12 GB

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jpiniero

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Could be released by January. Here's your answer for what they plan on doing with the Turing wafers that were meant for CMP.
 

Ajay

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I hope NV (and AMD) will keep producing the current gen GPUs when the next gen comes along. Even if it's only for six months. Would be nice to get the supply up and prices down for even a short window so people can get afford an upgrade; aside from ATOT ballers ;)
 
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These are businesses, not charities. They aren't going to do anything to chase lower margin items when they can essentially just pull prices out of a hat and people will line up aroud the block to pay them.
The high ASPs will push other competitors into the market over time, but, with the IP stranglehold that patents allow, it'll be a long time in the future before it helps.
 

Ajay

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These are businesses, not charities. They aren't going to do anything to chase lower margin items when they can essentially just pull prices out of a hat and people will line up aroud the block to pay them.
The high ASPs will push other competitors into the market over time, but, with the IP stranglehold that patents allow, it'll be a long time in the future before it helps.
Uhm, they will sell more cards - with GPUs made on an older process, which will be less expensive than the newer process. They will still make good profits - not asking them to make less.
 

jpiniero

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I'm still wondering why no rebrand? As stated before, NV certainly isn't a stranger to that, and has used multiple chip generations under the same model number plenty of times before.

Market recognition?

Might be a temporary product. Also it likely won't have the theoretical hashrate limiter either. This is meant to be a mining card that will also appeal to gamers but only because of the shortage.

Uhm, they will sell more cards - with GPUs made on an older process, which will be less expensive than the newer process. They will still make good profits - not asking them to make less.

More supply yes but the TU106 die is really big.
 
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Might be a temporary product. Also it likely won't have the theoretical hashrate limiter either.



More supply yes but the TU106 die is really big.

Yeah I read something that stated the 2060 is like 1/4 or 1/3rd as effective as a 3060.
NVidia might not even bother baking in a hash limit. Power/payoff doesn’t make a lot of sense to a miner.
 

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Yeah I read something that stated the 2060 is like 1/4 or 1/3rd as effective as a 3060.
NVidia might not even bother baking in a hash limit. Power/payoff doesn’t make a lot of sense to a miner.
GTX 1660 Super is more power-efficient for ETH right now than 2060, but that might change when RVN or some other core-throughput-intensive PoW coin takes over from ETH. ETH mining is not very core-dependent, mostly just memory (-bandwidth) dependent, it's actually very power-efficient, for a PoW coin. Nearly all of the others take more power.

In today's environment, it would still be profitable to pick up 2060 cards, if for a reasonable price.
 

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Uhm, they will sell more cards - with GPUs made on an older process, which will be less expensive than the newer process. They will still make good profits - not asking them to make less.
I doubt that they would sell enough cards to make the incremental cost of developing and marketing another low end card worth the effort instead of pushing out as many higher ASP cards they can. All modern process nodes at all foundries are heavily booked at competitive prices. The 2060 is likely the one they could get spun up again the fastest that wouldn't compete with any of their current higher ASP cards for resources. As it is, it is certainly not going to be cheap for anyone.
 
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I doubt that they would sell enough cards to make the incremental cost of developing and marketing another low end card worth the effort instead of pushing out as many higher ASP cards they can. All modern process nodes at all foundries are heavily booked at competitive prices. The 2060 is likely the one they could get spun up again the fastest that wouldn't compete with any of their current higher ASP cards for resources. As it is, it is certainly not going to be cheap for anyone.

In the current market they need to do zero money marketing. Zero money promoting.
All that is needed is there to be some kind of product. They will sell.
I do not expect these to be cheap either.
 
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Ajay

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I doubt that they would sell enough cards to make the incremental cost of developing and marketing another low end card worth the effort instead of pushing out as many higher ASP cards they can. All modern process nodes at all foundries are heavily booked at competitive prices. The 2060 is likely the one they could get spun up again the fastest that wouldn't compete with any of their current higher ASP cards for resources. As it is, it is certainly not going to be cheap for anyone.
Uh, they don't need to spin up any old cards, just keep selling some of the current ones when the 4000 series comes out (instead of turning off the spout early as they usually do). Anyway, whatever, it's just my opinion that this would be a good thing; not that NV or AMD would do it.
 

jpiniero

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Videocardz now claims that the core specs are the same as the 2060 Super. It still has the cut memory bus, but of course you do get 50% more memory.
 
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Frankly not a bad release if the reported specs are true. The smaller bus is going to hurt mining a lot more than it will gaming performance in the target market segment. Really not a practical difference between 12 GB and 16 GB on this card either, bandwidth considerations aside.

The only problem is that even a 2060 SUPER is stupidly expensive right now so this isn't going to be as cheap as people hope it might.
 
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What would be epic is if they assigned a random name (word/number) to each box.
Everybody would have their own unique model.

I’ll take the 2060 Train X4306 or the Cipher 36210
 
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