[Videocards][Rumor] New king coming soon - GTX 780 TI 3DMark score revealed

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boxleitnerb

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Since they are close at <1600p and the 290x starts wiping the floor at the higher resolutions. Of course to some 1080p will suddenly be the only resolution that matters once this card is released.

HardOCPs test included only 3 games and of those only one is 23% faster. If you take more games into account, the difference is a mere 4-6%:
https://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/amd-radeon-r9-290x-im-test/7/

If you raise the temp target on Titan to 95C as well so that both cards clock at 1 GHz (Titans "uber mode"), it becomes a dead lock:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Gefor...57241/Tests/Radeon-R9-290X-im-Test-1093796/5/
 
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Cloudfire777

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If it has 6GB of VRAM it will not cost $650, it will cost more. Since this supposed leaker claims it has 6GB and is the 780ti, I call BS. Also there is no reason to put a black square over the name of the video card to obscure the 780ti moniker in 3Dmark, unless it's a fake and the faker knows a photoshop would get recognized.

In short. A BS article to get pagehits.

I think 780ti will be faster than Titan for sure so long as they don't do 2496 shaders. But not with 6GB VRAM for $650... lol. This is nvidia. $200 premium just for 3GB more VRAM or it wouldn't be nvidia. :)

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GTX Titan was overpriced from the beginning ;)
 

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There's no doubt it'll beat the 290x and best of all have gsync support which puts Nvidia way ahead of the game. AIB may include a 6gb version, it's possible.

R9 290x is a failure like I said. Not because of the performance but AMD screwing up and not allowing AIB to sell their own custom cooling from day one. Now while people wait on these AIB, Nvidia will release 780 Ti next month and that will be the end of 290x.
 
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Sweepr

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3DMark11 is outdated by now, how about this? :)

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6% faster than Titan is hardly impressive, and dont expect this 6GB card for anything less than $650 ($100 more than R9 290X). Regular R9 290X would still be faster in a bunch of games @ 4K / multi-monitor and custom R9 290Xs would probably be faster overall @ 1080p/1440p and cheaper. Hardly amazing, but I'm hoping for a GTX780 price drop after this card.

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blackened23

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Also, going through the supposed source posts at XS - he seems like a troll with no prior credible evidence of having inside information. Go look at his post history, his username is pedantone. I just don't think a 6GB faster than Titan card will be 650$. This is nvidia. Get real. Does anyone really, truly, think that will happen?

6GB card faster than Titan for 650$. Yeah, that would be the biggest middle finger to existing Titan owners and pretty much unprecedented. I mean, maybe it's possible, but it doesn't make sense. I was expecting an even with Titan card for 650$, or if it is indeed faster I expect it to be priced appropriate especially with 6GB. We'll see, though.
 
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The king of which hill? If this is only 6% faster than the titan it has quite a qays to go to catch the 290x.

Since they are close at <1600p and the 290x starts wiping the floor at the higher resolutions. Of course to some 1080p will suddenly be the only resolution that matters once this card is released.

The king of resolutions people actually play at today. It will be years before even a 1/3 of us will be using 4k displays. By then, no one will care about the Titan or 290x. The 780ti will also probably be able to repeat this score for hours. The 290x? Not so much...
 

Sweepr

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The king of which hill? If this is only 6% faster than the titan it has quite a qays to go to catch the 290x.

Since they are close at <1600p and the 290x starts wiping the floor at the higher resolutions. Of course to some 1080p will suddenly be the only resolution that matters once this card is released.



It's great the 290x has came out, otherwise NV wouldn't have bothered updating the titan/780.

What will be fun is to watch the aftermarket 290x vs. 780 ti reviews.

Amazing, current GK110-based cards are no match for Hawaii @ 4K. :)
 

96Firebird

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Of course to some 1080p will suddenly be the only resolution that matters once this card is released.

Of course to some, 4K resolution is suddenly the only thing that matters since the release of the R290X.

It can go both ways...
 

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Also, going through the supposed source posts at XS - he seems like a troll with no prior credible evidence of having inside information. Go look at his post history, his username is pedantone. I just don't think a 6GB faster than Titan card will be 650$. This is nvidia. Get real. Does anyone really, truly, think that will happen?

6GB card faster than Titan for 650$. Yeah, that would be the biggest middle finger to existing Titan owners and pretty much unprecedented. I mean, maybe it's possible, but it doesn't make sense. I was expecting an even with Titan card for 650$, or if it is indeed faster I expect it to be priced appropriate especially with 6GB. We'll see, though.

That was before AMD released something for 550 that can tie or beat Titan is some areas. Game has changed. And chances are this 780Ti has 1/24 FP64. There is your excuse right there if you choose to use it.
 

chimaxi83

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Nice reading comprehension skills



"chimaxi83 - Thursday, October 24, 2013 - link
Impressive. This cards beats Nvidia on EVERY level! Price, performance, features, power..... every level. Nvidia paid the price for gouging it's customers, they are going to lose a ton of marketshare. I doubt they have anything to match this for at least a year."

LOL!

Lol. I'm glad somebody noticed that. Former banned Nvidia troll/shill poster boy Wreckage posted that, word for word, on the 680 launch review. Finally, somebody noticed my mocking! :cool:

However, I fail to see its relevance to this thread? "LOL" doesn't say much :colbert:
 

Cloudfire777

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There's no doubt it'll beat the 290x and best of all have gsync support which puts Nvidia way ahead of the game. AIB may include a 6gb version, it's possible.

R9 290x is a failure like I said. Not because of the performance but AMD screwing up and not allowing AIB to sell their own custom cooling from day one. Now while people wait on these AIB, Nvidia will release 780 Ti next month and that will be the end of 290x.

I agree.

There is a lot of people who are waiting for OEM versions to cool of that extremely hot die on the 290X to less than volcano temperatures and without getting deaf in the process.

A better performing GTX 780 Ti released a week or two after before 290X OEM versions coming out, will effectively put an end on the 290X.
The great cooling performance of the Titan is well documented. It runs both cool and is not noisy.

G-sync will also greatly cause people to buy the 780 Ti. Atleast that technology have been proven to work by presentation, rather than forcing people to believe that Mantle will "be so awesome". Nothing have been proven from them. No presentation, nothing. In the meantime, Nvidia have introduced a lot of new things like G-sync and Gameworks.
 
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HurleyBird

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You "Nvidia can't make a 6GB card for $650" (if AMD can sell a 4GB card for $550, Nvidia can certainly sell a 6GB one for $650) guys are just as hilarious as the OP's thinly veiled agenda. Both sides need to be less blatant with their fanboyism.
 

wand3r3r

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Of course to some, 4K resolution is suddenly the only thing that matters since the release of the R290X.

It can go both ways...

I'm not saying 4k is the only thing that matters by any means. I'm saying it's going to take more than 6% to be the undisputed king of the hill like the OP is dreaming of it being. Therefore the OP is borderline dreaming imo and trying to portray the ti as the next best thing while in reality it might not be.

It could be faster on average, but I'll believe it when I see it. Since the reference (horrible cooler) 290x can already tie/beat the titan, they need 10% to even slightly beat the 290x.

Anyways about 4K, the FIRST people to get 4k are those that will get 290x or the next fastest card end of story. I'm getting a little excited to pick up a 4K display myself so I can imagine there are a number of people that are thinking about it too.

I am by no means saying 4k is the only thing that matters, however I'd say 1080p must be the minority or a small percentage of people who buy the fastest cards on the market.
 

Teizo

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Lol. I'm glad somebody noticed that. Former banned Nvidia troll/shill poster boy Wreckage posted that, word for word, on the 680 launch review. Finally, somebody noticed my mocking! :cool:

However, I fail to see its relevance to this thread? "LOL" doesn't say much :colbert:

Ah, I see now. I was unaware of such cleverness. Kudos to you. I do seem to recall that username, however.
 

96Firebird

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You "Nvidia can't make a 6GB card for $650" (if AMD can sell a 4GB card for $550, Nvidia can certainly sell a 6GB one for $650) guys are just as hilarious as the OP's thinly veiled agenda. Both sides need to be less blatant with their fanboyism.

Yeah I don't get that either... The Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 6GB card sells for $580 on Amazon, although I'm not sure what price it came to market at. Some reviews say "around $600".

So, while I think it is possible for the 780Ti to come in around $650 with 6GB of RAM, I don't think Nvidia will release it with 6GB. I think 3GB.

I'm not saying 4k is the only thing that matters by any means.

I was just rewriting what you wrote to show it in a different light. I'd say the majority of people buying these high-end cards are on 1440/1600p. Some may play on higher (multi-card/4K), but in all reality you'd need more than one card for playable framerates.

As far as undisputed, anyone who claims that for any of the high-end cards (current, as well as once the 780Ti is released) is dreaming. There is no undisputed winner. They all have their pros and cons, people here just sensationalize things.
 
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wand3r3r

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The king of resolutions people actually play at today. It will be years before even a 1/3 of us will be using 4k displays. By then, no one will care about the Titan or 290x. The 780ti will also probably be able to repeat this score for hours. The 290x? Not so much...


1/3 of us? Who cares?

The only people who will go 4k will be the same that will buy the fastest card. The $500+ card buyers are 1% of the market (random guess) not 1/3 of anything. Sure 4k has a ways to go to be mainstream, and it's not all that matters, I'm saying 6% probably isn't enough to be the "king" of a hill.
 

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Of course to some, 4K resolution is suddenly the only thing that matters since the release of the R290X.

What about something in between, like 1440/1600p?
In my opinion, those resolutions are more appropriate for such powerful cards as R9 290X or GTX 780/Titan.
 

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Of course to some 1080p will suddenly be the only resolution that matters once this card is released.

Well, the vast majority of PC gamers have a 1080p monitor, it is only logical that resolution to be the one to matter the most.
 

96Firebird

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What about something in between, like 1440/1600p?
In my opinion, those resolutions are more appropriate for such powerful cards as R9 290X or GTX 780/Titan.

Yeah, I said that a few posts above you in an edit. I think that is the perfect resolution for comparisons of these cards, but some people here are bipartisan.