Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
My post was:
This is a perfect thread to demonstrate how fear destroys rational thought and leads to panic and stupidity and violent reactiveness. One extremist begets another, endlessly.
To which you responded: So that explains why the Muslim man followed the camera crew at the market? He was afraid?
M: Since I have no idea what you are talking about let me try to make sure you know what I was trying to say. When I said this is a perfect thread to demonstrate....... I was talking about what Jaskalas said, not what was in the video.
TLC: There was no extremism in this expose from those filming. There was obviously no fear either or they wouldn't have filmed this in the first place. So trying to paint them as extremists, or anyone who dares to look Islamic extremists in the face and call them on their behavior, is patently ridiculous.
M: Again, I have no idea what you are talking about.
I was addressing what you said, not what Jaskalas said. Besides that, your initial comment was about what was NOT in the video, so actually you were talking about it.
Try viewing my comments from that angle instead and maybe understanding will come your way?
I have reviewed your comments and they mean to me as little to me as ever. I would happily address them if I knew what you mean. The new stuff you wrote here offers me little hope, however.
When I said that I was addressing what Jaskalas said I was trying to make that clear to you in case the incomprehensibility of your comment was a result of that misunderstanding. I was giving you information to see if I had been clearer it would have an effect on your point, which I do not get. To tell me now that you were addressing what I said rather than what Jaskalas said is right out of left field because it too meant nothing to me. I knew you were talking about what I said and not he. That, however, clarifies nothing for me.
And the fact that I was initially talking about the video has nothing to do with what I tried to clarify in my later post as you did not quote or refer in any way to that. I was trying to clarify only the part you did quote: "This is a perfect thread to demonstrate how fear destroys rational thought and leads to panic and stupidity and violent reactiveness. One extremist begets another, endlessly."
I was trying to make it clear to you that it's Jaskalas' reaction to the video, not the video itself, that is full of fear that destroys rational thought, stupidity, and violent reactiveness. In that context and with that intention your comments to me make no sense. Here's why:
You said, in response to the part of my post you quote above: "So that explains why the Muslim man followed the camera crew at the market? He was afraid?"
M: I made no reference to the camera man, why or whether he was afraid or not. I was not talking about the camera man and my post had nothing to do with him. I don't know what the camera man has to do with my post at all. I was not trying to explain or not explain the camera man.
Then you said: There was no extremism in this expose from those filming.
M: But I was not talking about the film. I was talking about Jaskalas' reaction to the film and the distance he carried his reaction to it. I didn't say if there were or were not any extremism in the film.
You go on: There was obviously no fear either or they wouldn't have filmed this in the first place.
M: But since I was not talking about the film this is more of the same irrelevant comment to me.
THEN you come up with this howler: So trying to paint them as extremists, or anyone who dares to look Islamic extremists in the face and call them on their behavior, is patently ridiculous.
M: I was not painting them as anything. I was not talking about them. But to add on that anyone who dares to look Islamic extremists in the face and call them on their behavior is ridiculous is more ridiculous than ridiculous could ever be. What you say here is completely crazy. Since I was not painting them as anything we are left with the absurd remark that anybody who dares to look Islamic extremists in the face and call them on their behavior has to be ridiculous. Would it be ridiculous to call somebody on gunning down a bunch of Islamic extremists in their beds women and children and all as their method of calling them? Would it be ridiculous to speak out against interring them in concentration camps. Get real. I wasn't calling anybody in that film on anything but the notion that I wouldn't call Jaskalas or other reactionary nut cases on his or their absurd and lunatic responses to ME radicals is a joke.
So I either don't know what you are talking about or you are some kind of nut is what I'm left with.