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Video: ?Undercover in Little Morocco"

Jaskalas

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Video: ?Undercover in Little Morocco?

This is a video of the future that Mark Steyn, Robert Spencer, Brussels Journal, Oriana Fallaci and others have been warning us about: European cities going Muslim within our lifetimes. It features a young Belgian woman of Moroccan origins, who went undercover among Brussels? young Muslims to find out what they think about the country that let them in.

In short, they don?t think very much of it.

As you watch the video, pay particular attention to the man?s actions at about 2:35 in. He thinks he owns the streets of Brussels, and he?s probably right.

The maternity wards of Europe are the battleground for the future of the entire continent. Europeans are losing this fight, their demographics are being replaced by Islamic Supremacists. There have been warning signs for years, there have been acts of war, and now a short video from Europe to highlight the increasing radicalization and ownership of Supremacists in Europe.

The danger? Look no further than the French riots, the London bombings, the Madrid Bombing, Germany and Denmark in the past two days. We are the host of our greatest rival and we shall fall from within.
 
For those who didn't watch the video:

two-three people getting upset that there is a camera videotaping them.

and then a bunch of information from the reporter's mouth with no actual videotape proof of anything she is saying to be true.
 
For those who didn't watch the video it says nothing about maternity wards either.

This is a perfect thread to demonstrate how fear destroys rational thought and leads to panic and stupidity and violent reactiveness. One extremist begets another, endlessly.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
For those who didn't watch the video it says nothing about maternity wards either.

This is a perfect thread to demonstrate how fear destroys rational thought and leads to panic and stupidity and violent reactiveness. One extremist begets another, endlessly.
It sure seems that way. The only difference between Jaskalas and his ilk and the Muslim Extremists is who they worship. And before any of you call me a Islamic Extremist Sympathizer keep in mind that I am an Atheist and I'd be part of the group that they'd first target.

 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This is a perfect thread to demonstrate how fear destroys rational thought and leads to panic and stupidity and violent reactiveness. One extremist begets another, endlessly.
So that explains why the Muslim man followed the camera crew at the market? He was afraid?

There was no extremism in this expose from those filming. There was obviously no fear either or they wouldn't have filmed this in the first place. So trying to paint them as extremists, or anyone who dares to look Islamic extremists in the face and call them on their behavior, is patently ridiculous.
 
Riddle me this...

I know this is an absolutely crazy idea to some of you, but, just for the sake of argument, what if she is correct in her observations and assessments?

/discuss

 
That's why we have men like you to go over and kick some butt right?

Don't worry soon they'll send me too when they realize the marines/army is stretched too thin that they will bring in the air force boys.

I'll come rescue you. Don't worry. With me on your side you have nothing to worry about.
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Riddle me this...

I know this is an absolutely crazy idea to some of you, but, just for the sake of argument, what if she is correct in her observations and assessments?

/discuss
Round them up and put them in Concentration Camps? Hmmm that was done before and it didn't turn out so well.

 
Originally posted by: Aimster
That's why we have men like you to go over and kick some butt right?

Don't worry soon they'll send me too when they realize the marines/army is stretched too thin that they will bring in the air force boys.

I'll come rescue you. Don't worry. With me on your side you have nothing to worry about.
I have real doubts that you'd be fighting on our side.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Riddle me this...

I know this is an absolutely crazy idea to some of you, but, just for the sake of argument, what if she is correct in her observations and assessments?

/discuss
Round them up and put them in Concentration Camps? Hmmm that was done before and it didn't turn out so well.
OK Mr. Strawman, how about a more educated and mature discussion of the question? Is that too much to ask?

If the reporter is actually correct, and the future of Brussels is one filled with Muslim fanaticism being the order of the day, how should the EU and the rest of the world respond? What should be tried to halt the spread of extremism that is already in place?

Should it just be ignored? Should large public forums be held to discuss the problem with the various community leaders? Should laws be changed to reflect the threat of fanaticism?

Police crackdowns and the creation of concentration camps would indicate that you've waited too long to act.

So, instead of making such ridiculous statements, let's try to brainstorm some real solutions, shall we?
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Riddle me this...

I know this is an absolutely crazy idea to some of you, but, just for the sake of argument, what if she is correct in her observations and assessments?

/discuss
Round them up and put them in Concentration Camps? Hmmm that was done before and it didn't turn out so well.
OK Mr. Strawman, how about a more educated and mature discussion of the question? Is that too much to ask?
Come up with something then. I know that Jaskalas mentioned Genocide in other threads discussing this problem (which IMO makes him as bad or worse than them).

What can we do, especially if it's happening over there and not here?

 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Riddle me this...

I know this is an absolutely crazy idea to some of you, but, just for the sake of argument, what if she is correct in her observations and assessments?

/discuss
Round them up and put them in Concentration Camps? Hmmm that was done before and it didn't turn out so well.
OK Mr. Strawman, how about a more educated and mature discussion of the question? Is that too much to ask?
Come up with something then. I know that Jaskalas mentioned Genocide in other threads discussing this problem (which IMO makes him as bad or worse than them).

What can we do, especially if it's happening over there and not here?
Well let's stay out of this one for now... instead, let's focus on what the EU should do to stop the spread of Islamic fanaticism throughout their lands?
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Aimster
That's why we have men like you to go over and kick some butt right?

Don't worry soon they'll send me too when they realize the marines/army is stretched too thin that they will bring in the air force boys.

I'll come rescue you. Don't worry. With me on your side you have nothing to worry about.
I have real doubts that you'd be fighting on our side.

You're a straight up idiot to even suggest that.

Show me one post of mine to even suggest that I am anti-American.
I'd love to see you prove that.

Better yet since you claim I am a a borderline terrorist why don't you call the department of homeland security? Go ahead or you are all talk.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Aimster
That's why we have men like you to go over and kick some butt right?

Don't worry soon they'll send me too when they realize the marines/army is stretched too thin that they will bring in the air force boys.

I'll come rescue you. Don't worry. With me on your side you have nothing to worry about.
I have real doubts that you'd be fighting on our side.

You're a straight up idiot to even suggest that.

Show me one post of mine to even suggest that I am anti-American.
I'd love to see you prove that.

Better yet since you claim I am a a borderline terrorist why don't you call the department of homeland security? Go ahead or you are all talk.
So if the Air Force ordered you to bomb Iran, would you do it?
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Riddle me this...

I know this is an absolutely crazy idea to some of you, but, just for the sake of argument, what if she is correct in her observations and assessments?

/discuss
Round them up and put them in Concentration Camps? Hmmm that was done before and it didn't turn out so well.
OK Mr. Strawman, how about a more educated and mature discussion of the question? Is that too much to ask?

If the reporter is actually correct, and the future of Brussels is one filled with Muslim fanaticism being the order of the day, how should the EU and the rest of the world respond? What should be tried to halt the spread of extremism that is already in place?

Should it just be ignored? Should large public forums be held to discuss the problem with the various community leaders? Should laws be changed to reflect the threat of fanaticism?

Police crackdowns and the creation of concentration camps would indicate that you've waited too long to act.

So, instead of making such ridiculous statements, let's try to brainstorm some real solutions, shall we?

dude, I'm Belgian and worked in Brussels for 8 years. There are some problems just like everywhere else in the world but it's not Baghdad or Gaza

 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Riddle me this...

I know this is an absolutely crazy idea to some of you, but, just for the sake of argument, what if she is correct in her observations and assessments?

/discuss
Round them up and put them in Concentration Camps? Hmmm that was done before and it didn't turn out so well.
OK Mr. Strawman, how about a more educated and mature discussion of the question? Is that too much to ask?

If the reporter is actually correct, and the future of Brussels is one filled with Muslim fanaticism being the order of the day, how should the EU and the rest of the world respond? What should be tried to halt the spread of extremism that is already in place?

Should it just be ignored? Should large public forums be held to discuss the problem with the various community leaders? Should laws be changed to reflect the threat of fanaticism?

Police crackdowns and the creation of concentration camps would indicate that you've waited too long to act.

So, instead of making such ridiculous statements, let's try to brainstorm some real solutions, shall we?

Red Dawn might be "Mr. Strawman", but you've clearly been run over by the Hypothetical Train. "Just for the sake of argument" is the phrase used by people who HAVE no argument and want to invent all sorts of new hypothetical situations where their argument makes sense. The problem with the question you're asking is that, in order for her observations to be correct, a lot of OTHER things would have to be different as well. I would argue that the "nightmare scenario" proposed by our resident Islamophobes simply can't happen in a liberal western democracy without SIGNIFICANT changes in our social and legal systems, beyond what a simple shift in demographics is going to do.

Our current system deals with an influx of non-conforming immigrants just fine. Even if the threat weren't ridiculously exaggerated, liberal democracies aren't going to "implement sharia law" or start letting violent extremists write the laws...it's simply a matter of how democracy works. Think about it. Although the level of crazy isn't even remotely the same, Christians in America clearly would like a more religious nation. Yet despite their HUGE majority, it isn't working. Part of it is that democracy naturally causes people to become more liberal over time, but a big part of it is that democracy doesn't allow the majority to tromp all over the minority. Having a "race in the maternity wards" is pointless.

And in any case, are you so sure Red Dawn is completely off base? I know everyone treats past events as some kind of historical aberration that couldn't possibly happen again...but they happened before, some of them not too far in the past, and in countries not all that much more barbarous than our own. The way you avoid repeating history is by paying attention to what the hell is going on. And when some asshole starts sounding he's getting ready to build some gas chambers, you smack him down hard. Read "We are the host of our greatest rival and we shall fall from within." and seriously tell me that doesn't sound exactly like something Hitler might have said or the closing line at a Klan meeting...
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Aimster
That's why we have men like you to go over and kick some butt right?

Don't worry soon they'll send me too when they realize the marines/army is stretched too thin that they will bring in the air force boys.

I'll come rescue you. Don't worry. With me on your side you have nothing to worry about.
I have real doubts that you'd be fighting on our side.

You're a straight up idiot to even suggest that.

Show me one post of mine to even suggest that I am anti-American.
I'd love to see you prove that.

Better yet since you claim I am a a borderline terrorist why don't you call the department of homeland security? Go ahead or you are all talk.
So if the Air Force ordered you to bomb Iran, would you do it?

Why the hell not?

You assume too much. You have a problem with generalization and a lack of knowledge of people outside your race/culture.

Show me where I have love for Iran. I'd love to see that. Otherwise the thing I said above stands.
 
Well maybe if their labor laws weren't so rigid, Muslims could find decent jobs and integrate. With the higher unemployment levels, employers can be much more selective in who they employ and chances are they are going to pick white people leaving the Muslim population with a much higher unemployment rate than the national average.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Show me where I have love for Iran. I'd love to see that. Otherwise the thing I said above stands.
Exhibit A: nearly every post you've ever made here at P&N that deals with Iran, or Iran's violent involvement in Lebanon, Iraq, and Afghanistan. 😕

Exhibit B: your blatant hatred of all things Arab.
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Aimster
Show me where I have love for Iran. I'd love to see that. Otherwise the thing I said above stands.
Exhibit A: nearly every post you've ever made here at P&N that deals with Iran, or Iran's violent involvement in Lebanon, Iraq, and Afghanistan. 😕

Exhibit B: your blatant hatred of all things Arab.

I post facts. When I post my opinion you'll see it.

I hate Arabs? Then I guess I always support Israel then. Yea??

Go on show me posts. In my opinion you are nothing but a hillbilly with a gun. You go ahead and think I am a terrorist. You obviously can't prove that so my opinion of you is looking more and more correct.
 
My post was:

This is a perfect thread to demonstrate how fear destroys rational thought and leads to panic and stupidity and violent reactiveness. One extremist begets another, endlessly.


To which you responded: So that explains why the Muslim man followed the camera crew at the market? He was afraid?

M: Since I have no idea what you are talking about let me try to make sure you know what I was trying to say. When I said this is a perfect thread to demonstrate....... I was talking about what Jaskalas said, not what was in the video.

TLC: There was no extremism in this expose from those filming. There was obviously no fear either or they wouldn't have filmed this in the first place. So trying to paint them as extremists, or anyone who dares to look Islamic extremists in the face and call them on their behavior, is patently ridiculous.

M: Again, I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Originally posted by: freegeeks
dude, I'm Belgian and worked in Brussels for 8 years. There are some problems just like everywhere else in the world but it's not Baghdad or Gaza

Today it isn't so bad, it's the future that matters. It's our trajectory and where we are most certainly heading that we must prepare for.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This is a perfect thread to demonstrate how fear destroys rational thought and leads to panic and stupidity and violent reactiveness. One extremist begets another, endlessly.

We have people here who want to shut down all discussion of Islamic Supremacism as if it doesn?t exist. To let it grow freely throughout the west as if the continuous acts of war do not bleed us. As if our people are not dying from it daily. As if their homelands aren?t developing further nuclear capabilities.

Do you value the human rights that Sharia forcibly outlaws? If you care in the least, you should be concerned about the Islamic Supremacist ideology spreading. This isn?t Islam itself we?re talking about, it is the militants, the fighters, the warriors, the ones who make it their sworn mandate to kill.

Yet we are to be tolerant of this? We are to invite these things upon ourselves? This is what we are doing here. This is the dividing line between Liberals and Conservatives these days ? the invitation of acceptance for foreign militants under the name of tolerance.

By my outcry at the spread of Islamic Supremacy you condemn me.

Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Aimster
Show me where I have love for Iran. I'd love to see that. Otherwise the thing I said above stands.
Exhibit A: nearly every post you've ever made here at P&N that deals with Iran, or Iran's violent involvement in Lebanon, Iraq, and Afghanistan. 😕

Exhibit B: your blatant hatred of all things Arab.

I post facts. When I post my opinion you'll see it.

In the backdrop of world wide terrorist attacks as part of the global war you see fit to condemn us as your primary concern. Perception defines reality. It is with treason and treachery that you look upon your own and bring forth aid and comfort not for us, but for the Supremacists who fight us. The facts you choose to claim legitimate and illegitimate are determined by this.

Here in this video we have the report of a moderate Muslim immigrant. We hear her account of the radicalization and spread of the violent Supremacist ideology. You feel fit to silence her voice, to silence the voice of moderate Muslims. That is your support against us and for our enemy. That is the crux of your treason.


Once again, you condemn all of us who dare to speak out against Islamic Supremacism. This cannot be tolerated and must not stand.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Once again, you condemn all of us who dare to speak out against Islamic Supremacism. This cannot be tolerated and must not stand.
You sound as bad as those whom you are so afraid of.

 
Jaskalas: Today it isn't so bad, it's the future that matters. It's our trajectory and where we are most certainly heading that we must prepare for.

M: You Sir, have a mental disorder. You are filled with panic and fear which you project out onto the world over things you don't remember happened to you long ago. You live, for all intents and purposes, inside a paper bag whose inner walls you have painted with horror stories of your own creation. You have become a fanatic propelled by a toxic gas of your own making. You are an energized spinning top for whom rational and calm thought is impossible.

Therefore, the trajectory, the end point of which you imagine yourself capable of projecting, is merely an expression of your lunacy. You take facts on the ground as a burr under your saddle and then you start galloping around. In short your estimation of where things are going is colored by your insanity. You are part of the problem, not a part of any real solution. The terrorists have already won with you. You live in terror, and you can't even see that.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This is a perfect thread to demonstrate how fear destroys rational thought and leads to panic and stupidity and violent reactiveness. One extremist begets another, endlessly.

J: We have people here who want to shut down all discussion of Islamic Supremacism as if it doesn?t exist.

M: I said your irrational and you go right out and prove it. Lets replace your jingoistic Islamic Supremacism with World Jewry, or Free Masonry, or some other form of mass delusionary psychotically ginned up threat fanatical madmen have created in the past, so we can get for a moment, a taste of your disordered mind. Now, instead of reading in what I said some illusionary fear that I am turning my back of a threat, read, instead, that I am not turning my back of any real threat, but on the fantastical one YOU create.

You are saying, in short, that because I am not nuts like you, I am part of the threat you face. I see the danger of terrorists and mad people in the world, but I see you also as part of that. They are insane in the same way as you are. Your answer to them is their answer to you. You are the problem, not the solution. It is not that terrorist do not exist or that I need to shut down discussion of them, it is that I want to deal with them rationally and not insanely, like you do. You are blinded by fear and panic and so you can't see that, but see only your fear. You are magnetized just like any fanatic.

J: To let it grow freely throughout the west as if the continuous acts of war do not bleed us.

M: It is not, again, that there are facts on the ground that matters, but the insane way you react to them that is the issue. You react to your fear and nothing else. You are inside that bag of your own making.
J: As if our people are not dying from it daily. As if their homelands aren?t developing further nuclear capabilities.

M: Blah blah blah, stir that pot of fear, jinn up that madness, keep them chemicals stimulating your brain. Worry worry, focus of the madness out there and stay away from your own state of old old fear.

It is not the facts but your reaction, how you see them, actually misconstrue them, that is the problem. You are a fanatic who believes in his own delusions, the distortions of facts or truths on the ground. It is not the facts but your reactions that are off.

J: Do you value the human rights that Sharia forcibly outlaws? If you care in the least, you should be concerned about the Islamic Supremacist ideology spreading. This isn?t Islam itself we?re talking about, it is the militants, the fighters, the warriors, the ones who make it their sworn mandate to kill.

M: You are a mad man with a mad story you constantly rehearse to stoke up your madness. You are addicted to your fear. You need your state of madness to stay away from the real facts of your fear. You should maybe try therapy and take some time to unwind. I wish you all the best.


 
Oh heck, there was more:

J: Yet we are to be tolerant of this?

M: No, we just aren't going to be intolerant of them in the way you are. We will react with sense and intelligence to problems rather than act our of irrational fear.

J; We are to invite these things upon ourselves?

M: It is your blindness that prevents you from seeing that you and your fear reactions, if they are ever to be enacted, and they are, that will bring more of the same back on us.

J: This is what we are doing here.

M: We don't ask the insane what is going on in reality.

J: This is the dividing line between Liberals and Conservatives these days ? the invitation of acceptance for foreign militants under the name of tolerance.

M: This is what you see because you are nuts.

J: By my outcry at the spread of Islamic Supremacy you condemn me.

M: It has nothing to do with your outcry. It has to do with the insane nature of your outcry. You cry our in terror. You have been traumatized. Relax and let sane people deal with the threat. Turn off the news and take a walk in the park.

J: In the backdrop of world wide terrorist attacks as part of the global war you see fit to condemn us as your primary concern. Perception defines reality. It is with treason and treachery that you look upon your own and bring forth aid and comfort not for us, but for the Supremacists who fight us. The facts you choose to claim legitimate and illegitimate are determined by this.

M: Now apply that to yourself.

J: Here in this video we have the report of a moderate Muslim immigrant. We hear her account of the radicalization and spread of the violent Supremacist ideology. You feel fit to silence her voice, to silence the voice of moderate Muslims. That is your support against us and for our enemy. That is the crux of your treason.

M: Head first, off the deep end, into an empty pool. Your mental illness is as dangerous to us as they are, so don't talk too much about treason. Who knows, I may lose it and have to hunt you down. 😉

J: Once again, you condemn all of us who dare to speak out against Islamic Supremacism. This cannot be tolerated and must not stand.

M: Once again your self importance, jacked up by fear of your own end, causes you to speak out as a nut case and announce your fanaticism to all. I trust the world will be just fine with a nut case like you in it, you should try to learn to do the same. Relax and be happy. You could maybe try sleeping under the bed to get a bit more comfortable with the monsters.
 
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