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For a bunch of "techie" people, many of you have no imagination. Some of your comments are downright closed minded and short sighted. It's like saying, COMPUTERS DON'T DO NOTHING BUT PLAY CHESS AND COST TOO MUCH AND ARE THE SIZE OF A ROOM!!! THEY WILL NEVER BE IN PEOPLES HOMES!!"

Of course there are hurdles to overcome, as with any tech. I agree solar..for the most part has seemed a bit trivial in terms of cost vs return, but that doesn't mean in the future it won't be better. Some of the grand ideas they have surrounding this are actually pretty good goals. The whole "it's glass" argument..well I'm pretty sure someone smarter than you has probably already thought about the issues with that part and how to get around it. Cost...well that one might be an issue, because our government is not very good at handling money, and that probably won't change in the future. What I would like to see is roadways that hold up better than what we have today. They are working on the same roads year after year after year.
Part of the problem is the solar road is trying to solve contradictory goals. That's not to say the solar concept may fit certain niches--hell, our urban heat islands show there is spare solar energy waiting to be used.

The good--yes, there could be an application for solar roads. Roads are generally in open spaces. Mall parking lots are designed for 100 percent utilization for 15 days per year. That's a lot of open space.

The so-so--the glass panels (from a pavement perspective) are just a surface treatment. The bulk of the load support comes from the box culvert that will hold the water, internet, and cabling the system will need. I assume they want them manufactured off-site for modularity.

The bs--a)the whole system strives to be modular. A panel breaks, unscrew a couple bolts, and pop a new one in. A 20 ton bolder smashes into a road during a rock slide. Pop in 20 new cells! Well, what happens when the whole box culvert shatters? A few 100 lb solar cells aren't going to bridge the gaps in the road.

b) Water is the enemy of roads and electronics. Since the cells are not bonded to the base, there will be water infiltration. With water comes silt, clays, and sand. The panels will fault in very short order. The ride will be very rough. Unless they can come up with a way to reliably seal the joints between the solar cells.
 
A better idea is to put a solar panel on every rooftop and empty field. You know, like we're currently doing. But the problem with that is that they're enormously expensive and barely worth the expenditure.


Solar roadways is a horrible idea.
Putting solar panels on empty fields is a waste of land. Putting solar on roofs and over stuff that is unaffected by or benefits from shade like parking lots and roads is a better idea than using vacant land.
 
Thanks to those of you who have restored my tiny amount of faith in humanity by agreeing that this 'idea' (really a generous word...like saying you had the visionary idea to shove crayons up your nose when you were four) is utterly asinine.

To those who want to argue that it's bold innovation akin to advancing computer science or something...your time would be better spent shoving crayons up your nose.
 
Thanks to those of you who have restored my tiny amount of faith in humanity by agreeing that this 'idea' (really a generous word...like saying you had the visionary idea to shove crayons up your nose when you were four) is utterly asinine.

To those who want to argue that it's bold innovation akin to advancing computer science or something...your time would be better spent shoving crayons up your nose.

Good thing you have zero say in the matter. 😛

Reality is ideas such as this come and go all the time. Perhaps this will prove to be futile, but something else good will come out of it. This is more innovative than much of the "amazing" things that get reported on here regularly.
 
Thanks to those of you who have restored my tiny amount of faith in humanity by agreeing that this 'idea' (really a generous word...like saying you had the visionary idea to shove crayons up your nose when you were four) is utterly asinine.

To those who want to argue that it's bold innovation akin to advancing computer science or something...your time would be better spent shoving crayons up your nose.

It just seems everyone is not including the cost of digging up all the existing asphalt and how slow, labor-intensive it is and what the fuck are you going to do with it, would anyone want to live nearby a monstrous pile of asphalt? it would result in a "NIMBY" situation in a heartbeat. Now a persons driveway on a newly built home, yea, maybe if the panel price can be brought down.
 
It just seems everyone is not including the cost of digging up all the existing asphalt and how slow, labor-intensive it is and what the fuck are you going to do with it, would anyone want to live nearby a monstrous pile of asphalt? it would result in a "NIMBY" situation in a heartbeat. Now a persons driveway on a newly built home, yea, maybe if the panel price can be brought down.

I would actually say that that is one of the smallest issues. Similar to laying the foundation for the panels.

The thin top layer of asphalt can be recycled and sold to Mexico 😀
 
I don't see the issue here as being will it or won't it work. We will find out after their prototypes are road-tested.

The issue here is they are using peoples money, donated to their indiegogo project, to sell expensive merchandise like bumper stickers, mugs and hats. By donating you don't get stock in their company or dividends when they make a profit. Instead you get a $150 hat. They can then do whatever they want with the money, possibly spending it on a project that may never get off the ground. People complained about the banks publicizing losses and then privatizing gains. That exactly what this project does. If they make a profit they keep it, if they lose all the donated money because its a scam that never works, nothing happens. Just a warning to the donaters. Know what you are getting into.
 
Good thing you have zero say in the matter. 😛

Reality is ideas such as this come and go all the time. Perhaps this will prove to be futile, but something else good will come out of it. This is more innovative than much of the "amazing" things that get reported on here regularly.

so it doesn't bother you that the only good that might come from this is the excitement it could help bring attention to other, actually viable ideas...or that if it fails miserably or it turns out to be a scam, it could actually hurt public perception and make people less inclined to support the technology and ideas that could actually make a difference?
 
so it doesn't bother you that the only good that might come from this is the excitement it could help bring attention to other, actually viable ideas...or that if it fails miserably or it turns out to be a scam, it could actually hurt public perception and make people less inclined to support the technology and ideas that could actually make a difference?

And this differs from every other idea known to man how? If peoples only concern is how much it is going to cost tax payers (which...is most of it right?) well...they spend billions more sending things into space that don't really "do" much. It's all personal interest. Maybe the bigger issue at hand (which I touched on in my first post) is that the government looks to be jumping all over the idea, not the idea itself.
 
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seriously? it differs because not all ideas are the same?

and its not just a monetary cost that is the concern

its a waste of:
time
manpower
resources
expectation

Its great that people seem to be concerned about the environment enough to be excited over an idea like this, but they should really be educating themselves on these issues instead of just seeking hope in a magic bullet solution so that they can stop worrying about it and feel better about themselves
 
Indiegogo campaign was a huge success. Looks like they're starting to hire.

Our immediate need is for the following:
Mechanical Engineer
Civil Engineer
Structural Engineer
Manufacturing Engineer (Production Specialist)
Materials Engineer
Environmental Engineer
Chemical Engineer
Power Engineer

Experience in solar, renewable energy, or hydrology a bonus.

We also need an experienced CFO.

This is the team we need to get to the next step: manufacturing. Once we get to that phase, we'll also need assemblers, planners, installers, customer service, etc.

For the engineering positions, you must have significant industry experience and be willing to relocate to work in Sandpoint, Idaho.
http://solarroadways.com/jobs.shtml
 
Awesome, also they wrote out against the people who are posting various dissenting ideas about their invention.

It will definitely be interesting to see if it works. If so that would be great.
 
seriously? it differs because not all ideas are the same?

and its not just a monetary cost that is the concern

its a waste of:
time
manpower
resources
expectation

Its great that people seem to be concerned about the environment enough to be excited over an idea like this, but they should really be educating themselves on these issues instead of just seeking hope in a magic bullet solution so that they can stop worrying about it and feel better about themselves

This isn't being designed by people who are amatures. It is being done by people with advance degrees and years of experience in the field.

It is distributing that people like you with zero experience and education in these areas seem to think you know than people with advance degrees and years of experience in a field. Please tell me what qualifications do you have.
 
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Will be neat to see how far they get. I'm still skeptical about what to do about snow though. Winter roads normally arn't asphalt exposed and a small hard layer of snow is left, with these they will have to always be exposed which will cost a lot of money/energy to keep up with.
 
It's essentially a kickstarter scam. Why have cars park over top the solar panels in a parking lot they already have outdoor garages for cars with solar panels ON THE ROOF. Genius!
 
Will be neat to see how far they get. I'm still skeptical about what to do about snow though. Winter roads normally arn't asphalt exposed and a small hard layer of snow is left, with these they will have to always be exposed which will cost a lot of money/energy to keep up with.
they won't have to constantly heat the surface. only when needed and only to just above freezing so nothing sticks to the surface.
 
i could see solar tiles working. i don't see this mashup of existing tech going anywhere.

it really looks like they started out with 'let's put solar panels on roads to generate power'

while we're at it let's add a heater to melt snow
while we're at it let's add a controller
while we're at it let's add wireless comms
while we're at it let's add LEDs
while we're at it let's add power distribution infrastructure

reminds me of a group assignment from engineering technical communication class on crack
 
This isn't being designed by people who are amatures. It is being done by people with advance degrees and years of experience in the field.

It is distributing that people like you with zero experience and education in these areas seem to think you know than people with advance degrees and years of experience in a field. Please tell me what qualifications do you have.

As usual, someone dissenting against us OMG anti-innovators exposes their illiteracy.

This is dumb. You are dumb. Your arguments are dumb. Deal with it.
 
they won't have to constantly heat the surface. only when needed and only to just above freezing so nothing sticks to the surface.

You do realize the amount of energy required to do that right? The video Waggy posted also talks about that. It's actually more energy than I thought.

I really do think we need more solar/wind power, but this is not the right approach imo. At least with slanted solar panels you could have some kind of wiper system that pushes the snow off, and since they are rather slippery it should be able to slide right off fairly cleanly.
 
and yet...it's still much more interesting than 99% of what any of you have contributed to society. While no, I wouldn't back it (or anything for that matter), I have no issues with them moving forward. Again, our money gets spent on stupid things every day (that we aren't even aware of), this is of little consequence to me.
 
Have enough trouble with infrastructure and old bridges, etc ,etc.

Ain't happening.

Where's my flying car 🙂
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