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video issue with linux

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BriGy86

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1st off I should list what I'm using
-Samsung syncmaster 930b LCD (19 inch) primary monitor
-NEC accusync 700 CRT (17 inch) secondary monitor
-saphire ATI radeon 9600XT video card

so far I installed the fglrx driver for my ATI card and the LCD worked just fine and could play the screen savers just fine (but the CRT didn't get a signal at all

so then I went in to enabe the other monitor and now the resolution seems to take up more room than the physical screen can allow, so when you move the cursor arrow up, down, left, or right it moves the screen as well, If i turn the resolution down it has to do it even more

another note: in kubuntu itself I can choose which driver I want for which screen, there is an NEC accusync 700 driver, but nothing for the LCD, the 2 closest ones are the syncmaster 920t or the 950 in(T) and if i hit detect it goes straight to the NEC driver

more random info: at first the display settings window listed a graphics card (atI fglrx) and 2 monitors

since I have gotten both monitors to display a desktop in the display settings I now have another graphics card listed by the name VESA driver (generic) and one monitor (unused)
and the screen savers are very jerky now like its not using the right driver again

I have no idea where to start, any help would be great

thank you

*edited for corrections*
 
well with your wording it seems as though im only supposed to have one of those files, I took a look at that directory and i have xorg.conf and then xorg.conf.1 through 16, is that normal?

*EDIT*here is the info form the regular xorg.conf file i have, Ill give those forums a look see, I did post this on the kubuntu forums but got only one answer about the video card driver (which worked, but the recent developments seem to have hindered that)
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# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
screen 1 "screen1" rightof "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
load "glx"
load "GLcore"
load "v4l"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
option "CoreKeyboard"
option "XkbRules" "xorg"
option "XkbModel" "pc104"
option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
option "CorePointer"
option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Identifier "stylus"
Driver "wacom"
option "Device" "/dev/wacom"# Change to
option "Type" "stylus"
option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"# Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Identifier "eraser"
Driver "wacom"
option "Device" "/dev/wacom"# Change to
option "Type" "eraser"
option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"# Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Identifier "cursor"
Driver "wacom"
option "Device" "/dev/wacom"# Change to
option "Type" "cursor"
option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"# Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "AccuSync 700"
option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
vendorname "NEC"
modelname "NEC AccuSync 700"
HorizSync 30.0-71.0
VertRefresh 55.0-120.0
modeline "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync
modeline "640x480@72" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -vsync -hsync
modeline "640x480@75" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -vsync -hsync
modeline "640x480@85" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -vsync -hsync
modeline "800x600@56" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@72" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@75" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@85" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@60" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
modeline "832x624@75" 57.284 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -vsync -hsync
modeline "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1024x768@75" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1024x768@70" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
modeline "1024x768@60" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
modeline "1024x768@43" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync interlace +vsync
modeline "1152x864@75" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1280x960@60" 102.1 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 -hsync +vsync
modeline "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1400x1050@60" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync
gamma 1.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AR [Radeon 9600 XT]"
Driver "vesa"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]"
boardname "ati"
busid "PCI:1:0:0"
driver "fglrx"
screen 0
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AR [Radeon 9600 XT]"
Monitor "AccuSync 700"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
Device "aticonfig-Device[0]"
Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
depth 24
modes "1280x1024@60" "1400x1050@60" "1280x960@60" "1152x864@75" "1024x768@43" "1024x768@60" "1024x768@70" "1024x768@75" "1024x768@85" "832x624@75" "800x600@60" "800x600@85" "800x600@75" "800x600@72" "800x600@56" "640x480@85" "640x480@75" "640x480@72" "640x480@60"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "device" #
identifier "device1"
boardname "ati"
busid "PCI:1:0:0"
driver "fglrx"
screen 1
EndSection
Section "screen" #
identifier "screen1"
device "device1"
defaultdepth 24
monitor "monitor1"
SubSection "Display"
depth 24
modes "1024x768@43" "1152x864@75" "1024x768@60" "1280x960@60" "1024x768@70" "1280x1024@60" "1024x768@75" "1400x1050@60" "1024x768@85" "832x624@75" "800x600@60" "800x600@85" "800x600@75" "800x600@72" "800x600@56" "640x480@85" "640x480@75" "640x480@72" "640x480@60"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "monitor" #
identifier "monitor1"
vendorname "NEC"
modelname "NEC AccuSync 700"
HorizSync 30.0-71.0
VertRefresh 55.0-120.0
modeline "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync
modeline "640x480@72" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -vsync -hsync
modeline "640x480@75" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -vsync -hsync
modeline "640x480@85" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -vsync -hsync
modeline "800x600@56" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@72" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@75" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@85" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@60" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
modeline "832x624@75" 57.284 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -vsync -hsync
modeline "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1024x768@75" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1024x768@70" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
modeline "1024x768@60" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
modeline "1024x768@43" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync interlace +vsync
modeline "1152x864@75" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1280x960@60" 102.1 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 -hsync +vsync
modeline "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1400x1050@60" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync
gamma 1.0
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
option "Xinerama" "true"
EndSection
Section "device" #
identifier "device2"
boardname "VESA driver (generic)"
busid "PCI:1:0:1"
driver "vesa"
screen 0
EndSection
Section "screen" #
identifier "screen2"
device "device2"
defaultdepth 24
monitor "monitor2"
SubSection "Display"
depth 24
modes "640x480@60" "640x480@72" "640x480@75" "640x480@85" "800x600@56" "800x600@72" "800x600@75" "800x600@85" "800x600@60" "832x624@75" "1024x768@85" "1024x768@75" "1024x768@70" "1024x768@60" "1024x768@43" "1152x864@75" "1280x960@60" "1280x1024@60" "1400x1050@60"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "monitor" #
identifier "monitor2"
vendorname "NEC"
modelname "NEC AccuSync 700"
HorizSync 30.0-71.0
VertRefresh 55.0-120.0
modeline "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync
modeline "640x480@72" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -vsync -hsync
modeline "640x480@75" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -vsync -hsync
modeline "640x480@85" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -vsync -hsync
modeline "800x600@56" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@72" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@75" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@85" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
modeline "800x600@60" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
modeline "832x624@75" 57.284 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -vsync -hsync
modeline "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1024x768@75" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1024x768@70" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
modeline "1024x768@60" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
modeline "1024x768@43" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync interlace +vsync
modeline "1152x864@75" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1280x960@60" 102.1 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 -hsync +vsync
modeline "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
modeline "1400x1050@60" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync
gamma 1.0
EndSection
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Seems like the GUI program you used generated a new xorg.conf each time you changed something then copied the old one for safe keeping.

All of them will be ignored except for the actual xorg.conf file. Looks like the app made a mess of things. It's going to take me a bit to decifer what is going on.


Umm..
Do you have a Wacom tablet? (like a touchscreen or a drawing tablet?) Becuase this has one configured...

edit:

What screen resolution do you want for both monitors (each)?
 
Here. Try the following. It's a generic simple configuration that is just trying to get two seperate monitors going with the flglrx driver.

The 'proper' way to do it is use a special ATI-propriatory-driver-specific configuration stuff with the video driver to make the one desktop span across two monitors.. but the thing confuses me so I won't try it. I just want to give you something that should 'work' and provide some 3d acceleration (hopefully)

I took the configuration you shown me and tried to clean it up and make the naming of stuff make sense. I got rid of the Wacom stuff too. I don't know if you wanted that, but even if you have a wacom pad I don't think it would of worked correctly with that configuration and it should work 'ok' with this configuration as a basic mouse (no pressure sensitivity). Of course it's possible to get full features for something like that, but right now I am going for basics.

I could of introduced bugs and I have no way of testing it out so it may not work. Backup your current configuration file and copy this one over it and try to restart X.

In Ubuntu the easiest way to do this is hit 'ctrl-alt-F1', log in as your user and go:
sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart

And it should restart. If it doesn't there is a log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log that will tell you what went wrong. This may be important information. There is a lot of information in that file, but the lines starting with WW (for warnings) and EE (for errors) are the important stuff to look at. Warnings indicate a misconfiguration or non-feature or something that is not critical. Errors indicate show-stoppers, and those will stop X from running.


To look at the log file the easy way to do that is:
less /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Then to search through the file you can hit the / button to start a search and then EE to find the lines with EE in them.


Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
load "glx"
load "GLcore"
load "v4l"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
option "CoreKeyboard"
option "XkbRules" "xorg"
option "XkbModel" "pc104"
option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "device"
Identifier "LeftVideoCard"
Driver "fglrx"
Screen 0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "RightVideoCard"
Driver "fglrx"
Screen 1
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "RightMonitor"
HorizSync 30.0-71.0
VertRefresh 55.0-120.0
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "LeftMonitor"
HorizSync 30.0-71.0
VertRefresh 55.0-120.0
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "RightScreen"
Device "RightVideoCard"
Monitor "RightMonitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "LeftScreen"
device "LeftVideoCard"
defaultDepth 24
monitor "LeftMonitor"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen 0 "LeftScreen" 0 0
Screen 1 "RightScreen" rightof "LeftScreen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection


Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
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That's probably the best that I can do for you. You need to in and edit the thing for the 'left' and 'right' monitor resolutions you want and the vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your monitors (google for the monitor make and model if you don't know).

Each section is a bit logical. The 'ServerLayout' section refers to your "X Server" which is the X term for your entire GUI display. It chooses which 'screens' you want to use and input devices and sometimes other things.

Each "Screen" controls the color depth and possible resolutions. Edit those to suit you. In Linux '24' is the same exact thing as saying '32bit color' in Windows. 16 bit is 16 bit. In that section you choose which monitor and which video card (device).

The 'Monitor' section controls the monitors. The vertical and horrizontal refresh rates are important, but if you delete those lines then it'll try to autodetect it.

The 'Device' section controls the configurations for the video cards. There are a lot of options, but again I tried to keep it simple. If 'flglrx' driver doesn't work, try 'radeon' driver. That should provide 2D acceleration and you'll be able to merge the desktops using Xinerma, but you'll loose 3d acceleration probably. I don't know which video card output corrisponds to which video card output, so I may have the things switched around. I don't know.


Hopefully this can be made to work with just a little bit of effort. Whatever GUI program you used to configure your stuff didn't do a very good job.
 
This one with the open source Radeon driver.

This should provide a desktop spanning between both monitors.. I think

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
load "glx"
load "GLcore"
load "v4l"
EndSection


Section "ServerFlags"
option "Xinerama" "true"
EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
option "CoreKeyboard"
option "XkbRules" "xorg"
option "XkbModel" "pc104"
option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "device"
Identifier "LeftVideoCard"
Driver "radeon"
# nozell based on http://librarian.launchpad.net/3024460/xorg.conf
Option "MergedFB" "true"
Option "CRT2Position" "RightOf"
Option "CRT2HSync" "30-71"
Option "CRT2VRefresh" "55-120"
Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024-1280x1024 1024x768-1024x768 1024x768 800x600 640x480"
Option "MergedDPI" "100 100"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "LeftMonitor"
HorizSync 30.0-71.0
VertRefresh 55.0-120.0
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "LeftScreen"
device "LeftVideoCard"
defaultDepth 24
monitor "LeftMonitor"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "LeftScreen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection


Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
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With this one the 2nd 'left' monitor (again I don't know which one is left or right with you) get it's configuration mixed up with the video card.

The metamodes specify which resolution for which monitor with the - and the ones with just one resolution I think would be for running just one monitor. On the metamodes both monitors don't have to be the same resolution.

Hope all of this makes sense to you. Dpn't forget to edit the refresh rates and resolutions to what you want to use.

(this is partially why propriatory drivers for Linux sucks.. although for open source it's only a little bit better)
 
Thank you for all your help, unfortunatly I wont be able to get around to trying this all out till about 2:00 P.M. thursday (damn work)

for the record, I don't have a wacom tablet, I don't know why thats in there, thanks for taking that out, the mouse pressure sensetivity I don't think I've ever used nor does my mouse even have it as far as I know. so that config should be fine as far as the mouse goes

but I'll be sure to read through it carefully and change the resoltions accordingly,

thanks again:beer:

*EDIT*
I re-read the post again, i figured i should mention that I only have one video card that has a DVI and VGA connector, DVI for the LCD and VGA for the CRT, if thats makes any difference
 
for the record, I don't have a wacom tablet, I don't know why thats in there,
Click to expand...

It looks like an Ubuntu thing, a friend of mine installed Ubuntu on his notebook recently and it had the Wacom entries too even though he didn't have one. Either it's seeing something that makes it think you have a tablet PC or it's just adding them 'just in case', they don't seem to hurt anything either way.
 
I looked at the 1st config

I tried to copy and paste it to mine but I guess I don't have permission ( I am logged in as root, perhaps I need to edit it when Xwindows isn't running, would i do that with VI or something, and is there an easy way to copy and paste it using VI

as for the resolutions, its talking about the native resolution right? I think the native res. for the LCD is 1280X1024, would I be alright if i left those refresh and resolution lines blank so it can auto detect? And as for the spanning of the desktop, It's not a big priority, I just want more desktop space to put windows, so I think the 1st config is good enough.

and thank you again for all your help

*EDIT*
BTW this seemed to work when making sure the driver was working
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Code:
:~$ fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600 XT Generic
OpenGL version string: 2.0.5814 (8.25.18)

Testing:

Code:
:~$ fgl_glxgears
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
2972 frames in 5.0 seconds = 594.400 FPS
4546 frames in 5.0 seconds = 909.200 FPS
4534 frames in 5.0 seconds = 906.800 FPS
4545 frames in 5.0 seconds = 909.000 FPS

Code:
:~$ glxgears -printfps
23436 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4687.105 FPS
23337 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4667.340 FPS
23321 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4664.134 FPS
23303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4660.479 FPS
----------------------------------------------------------------
but when i try these I get this
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)

bran@bran-desktop:~$ fgl_glxgears
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
Major opcode of failed request: 142 (GLX)
Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)
Serial number of failed request: 30
Current serial number in output stream: 30
bran@bran-desktop:~$ glxgears -printfps
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
838 frames in 5.1 seconds = 163.405 FPS
798 frames in 5.2 seconds = 152.973 FPS
798 frames in 5.3 seconds = 151.110 FPS
836 frames in 5.6 seconds = 148.288 FPS
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I ran all 3 of those test commands, they did work before I messed around with getting both monitors going
 
just for the record, leaving the refresh rate values blank did not make them autodetect, I had to go into recovery mode and set the rates again.

after applying that config, It didn't really seem to change the video settings, right now both screen look exactly the same, what ever shows up on one shows up on the other so they're are being cloned, as for the GUI I used to edit the file, I just used the display settings option in Kubuntu
 
Ya. That's what it does.

It's just something to see if you can get it to work, that's all.

If you want to get the Fglrx drivers working with 'xinerma mode' (which means that the entire desktop spans across both monitors) then you'll have to do some odd configuration.

The second config should get 'xinerma mode' running. But you may loose 3d acceleration. There is open source drivers for your card, but I don't know how mature they are in your distro.

For reference here is two configs, one of them I used as the basis for the second configuration I created for you:
http://librarian.launchpad.net/3024460/xorg.conf <--- that one.

This thread in Ubuntu forum has a example that used the Fglrx drivers for doing dual monitors. Maybe one of those can help.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7070
Notice how the video card configuration handles the dual monitor stuff.

Otherwise maybe ask on that rage3d or Ubuntu forums.
 
thanks for your help, but right now it seems X11 wont start after some other tweaks I did, I think im going ot reformat to mainly get rid of what that GUI FUBARed then I'll take a look back on this thread and see what I can do

thanks for your help and time :beer:
 
I just reinstalled kubuntu again, here is the xorg.conf file with out the GUI screwing it up, I'm assuming to just make things run smooth i need to change the driver from 'vesa' to 'fglrx'

I'll bold and underling where I think it needs to be change, I'm asking for confermation just so I don't break anything, thanks
----------------------------------------------------------------# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AR [Radeon 9600 XT]"
Driver "vesa"<-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "AccuSync 700"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AR [Radeon 9600 XT]"
Monitor "AccuSync 700"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
 
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