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With 1440p how is it when web browsing and other non-related gaming activities. I work two days a week from home and I am curious, would text be much smaller now?
it takes one second to make the text larger. Ctrl +
 

cmdrdredd

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With 1440p how is it when web browsing and other non-related gaming activities. I work two days a week from home and I am curious, would text be much smaller now?

It is slightly smaller but you get more on the screen. You can see more text and don't have to scroll down as much. I appreciate that aspect. I'd say anyone with decent vision even corrective lenses can see it no problem at the default size.
 

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I would say the average person would actually have trouble with text. again though all you do is is hit Ctrl + to make it larger.
 

bystander36

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I would say the average person would actually have trouble with text. again though all you do is is hit Ctrl + to make it larger.

Ctrl + mouse wheel works too.

While I can read the text when it is smaller, I find it more comfortable when larger.
 

cmdrdredd

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I would say the average person would actually have trouble with text. again though all you do is is hit Ctrl + to make it larger.

No, anyone who isn't blind or needs glasses or contacts but refuses to use them can read the standard text on a 27" 2560x1440 IPS screen. It helps that the text is much sharper.
 

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No, anyone who isn't blind or needs glasses or contacts but refuses to use them can read the standard text on a 27" 2560x1440 IPS screen. It helps that the text is much sharper.
what an idiotic comment. I have perfect vision and the text is damn small on 27 inch 2560x1440. I know plenty of people that ask how to make the text larger even on a 23 or 24 inch 1080 screen. in fact basically everyone I know that is older then me runs their screen below native res just so they can read the text.
 
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cmdrdredd

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what an idiotic comment. I have perfect vision and the text is damn small on 27 inch 2560x1440. I know plenty of people that ask how to make the text larger even on a 23 or 24 inch 1080 screen. in fact basically everyone I know that is older then me runs their screen below native res just so they can read the text.

You never said you couldn't see it well enough to read. Older people have vision that isn't as sharp as when they were younger, your eyes age too. Depending on the screen, running a resolution below the native can cause everything to be even more blurry just blown up. You totally missed the mark lol
 
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bystander36

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You never said you couldn't see it well enough to read. Older people have vision that isn't as sharp as when they were younger, your eyes age too. Depending on the screen, running a resolution below the native can cause everything to be even more blurry just blown up. You totally missed the mark lol

From the very beginning of using computers, every time I upgraded my monitor to something larger with larger text, I've felt more comfortable with the same eye sight (20/20). Now when I mess with increasing the text size, there does become a point it feels too big, but I am pretty certain that Microsoft and the Dev's making programs, chose their default text size to reflect the size of the average users screen resolution and size. Just like how consoles do the same thing by making text huge to accommodate how poorly text looks on a TV and at the distance people use it.

The point of higher resolutions is not to make text smaller, it to allow more pixels to make up the same size text.
 

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You never said you couldn't see it well enough to read. Older people have vision that isn't as sharp as when they were younger, your eyes age too. Depending on the screen, running a resolution below the native can cause everything to be even more blurry just blown up. You totally missed the mark lol
he asked if the text would be smaller which means he clearly was worrying about being able to read it. you acted like it would not be a problem for most people when in reality it would be for the average person. again almost everyone I know runs below native res on even their 1080 screens because they want the text bigger and thats the only way they know how to do it. the text on a 27 inch 1440 screen would be damn small for most people. and most people, including many on this forum have no clue to use ctrl + to make it larger.
 

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Even 80fps on a 120Hz display is noticeably smoother than 60fps on a 60Hz display. Whether or not it's worth the upgrade depends on how sensitive you are to motion.


I'm the exact opposite. After using 120Hz (and now LightBoost), I can't give it up. I'm also very sensitive to smooth motion, and 60fps is almost hard on my eyes now.

I agree completely. 80fps is the magic number for me. It makes a big difference in image clarity during fast panning and general movement. It aids in target acquisition for fast action sniping for me personally, especially on a highly detailed game like BF3. Its easier to spot someone hiding in the middle of a mess of pipes and tubes on a map as I pan around. With 60hz, the entire image blurs together and looks like crap 30fps to me now. I can't go back ever, despite image quality benefits of IPS.
 

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I agree completely. 80fps is the magic number for me. It makes a big difference in image clarity during fast panning and general movement. It aids in target acquisition for fast action sniping for me personally, especially on a highly detailed game like BF3. Its easier to spot someone hiding in the middle of a mess of pipes and tubes on a map as I pan around. With 60hz, the entire image blurs together and looks like crap 30fps to me now. I can't go back ever, despite image quality benefits of IPS.

GO GO CRT!

72-100Hz plus image quality and resolution.

Since I've only got 20" viewable I like 1920x1440 at 72-85hz. I can also run 1600x1200 at 72-100hz, but my hardware is far to weak to really game at any of these settings. The original Far Cry runs between 18-28fps at 19x14. 1-2fps more at 16x12. Fortunately my CRT is still in great shape and hopefully one day I will have the hardware to fully utilize it before it goes. Hopefully it will also last me until we actually have a decent replacement option.

I hope adoption of "4k" and higher speed connections will allow official 80-120hz 25x14/16 IPs (or better) displays. I'd love to see these resolutions move down to 22-24" displays as well. I think that'd be my ideal monitor, ~100hz IPS 25x16 24" even if it was $1k.
 

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GO GO CRT!

72-100Hz plus image quality and resolution.

Since I've only got 20" viewable I like 1920x1440 at 72-85hz. I can also run 1600x1200 at 72-100hz, but my hardware is far to weak to really game at any of these settings. The original Far Cry runs between 18-28fps at 19x14. 1-2fps more at 16x12. Fortunately my CRT is still in great shape and hopefully one day I will have the hardware to fully utilize it before it goes. Hopefully it will also last me until we actually have a decent replacement option.

I hope adoption of "4k" and higher speed connections will allow official 80-120hz 25x14/16 IPs (or better) displays. I'd love to see these resolutions move down to 22-24" displays as well. I think that'd be my ideal monitor, ~100hz IPS 25x16 24" even if it was $1k.
lol what? the original Far Cry only gets 18-28 fps? even integrated video from few years ago can do better than that.
 

ramj70

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it takes one second to make the text larger. Ctrl +

Well hot dang I did not know that, thanks :biggrin:

The reason I asked is because there are times with my current monitor at 1080 I have to take my glasses off and get closer to the screen to read.
 

Mark Rejhon

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Games felt so much better on IPS to me.
We need IPS 120Hz with an easy/optional strobe mode.
'nuff said.

The point here is to showcase what actual 120fps motion looks like, displayed on a 120hz capable monitor. It has nothing to do with graphics detail at all.
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72-100Hz plus image quality and resolution.
The video WILL look terrible at 72-100Hz.
The video is 100% stutter free at 120Hz on a fast GPU.
Make sure you have a Radeon 7000 series or a Geforce 680 or faster. (May play on slower GPU's, untested)
And where possible, download the 100MB version if possible, rather than the 30MB version.

Is it just me or do the graphics look like total garbage? What game is this, is this on ultra low?
Recording 120fps@120Hz in realtime, at full 1080p probably required reducing settings. Don't look at the graphics, look at the motion resolution of the video. Make sure your monitor is running at 120Hz, not 100Hz or 144Hz. And you play in a smooth player such as MPC-HC, to get the motion feel properly. The graphics isn't the impressive part. The motion feel is the most impressive part of the video (zero stutters, zero judder, but only if you play video during framerate=Hz).

If the video does not look as smooth motion as the animation at www.testufo.com/#test=photo (viewed in a 120Hz friendly browser such as Chrome), then adjust your refresh rate and video playback first, until the video is able to play at fully synchronized framerate=Hz.

Video looked incredibly smooth on my Overlord. This can prove a good way for people to see the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz when they first get a new monitor. Hopefully a few more of these come out so people can really see the difference.
Thanks for the compliment -- actual 120Hz user playing the video.
 
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Black Octagon

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Just wanted to report my ongoing difficulties in viewing these videos on my own overclocked Overlord (on a 7970) as posted on 120Hz.net:
http://120hz.net/showthread.php?311...eo-in-REAL-TIME!&p=26136&viewfull=1#post26136
http://120hz.net/showthread.php?311...eo-in-REAL-TIME!&p=26178&viewfull=1#post26178

At first I suspected it was linked to ToastyX's AMD patch, but Jackstar is also on AMD (and has the same monitor as I) so I'm officially out of ideas as to why I'd having stutter and software issues with these vids while they run fine on my crappy work computer with its 60Hz monitor and onboard Intel GPU
:(
 

jackstar7

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Just wanted to report my ongoing difficulties in viewing these videos on my own overclocked Overlord (on a 7970) as posted on 120Hz.net:
http://120hz.net/showthread.php?311...eo-in-REAL-TIME!&p=26136&viewfull=1#post26136
http://120hz.net/showthread.php?311...eo-in-REAL-TIME!&p=26178&viewfull=1#post26178

At first I suspected it was linked to ToastyX's AMD patch, but Jackstar is also on AMD (and has the same monitor as I) so I'm officially out of ideas as to why I'd having stutter and software issues with these vids while they run fine on my crappy work computer with its 60Hz monitor and onboard Intel GPU
:(

I'll double-check things on my end when I get back home tonight and see if there's any insight I can give you.
 

Black Octagon

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Thanks Jack. Mark suggested drivers so maybe you're using a more recent Catalyst version than I? I think I'm currently on 13.6 but need to check hen I get home
 

jackstar7

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I know I'm on 13.8b1 at this point, but I should pay attention to how I view the file as well.
 

jackstar7

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Okay, it still works for me. All I did was dl the big file and drag it into Firefox.

It did not work in Chrome or IE/WMP for me though.

I'm on 13.8b1 drivers. Let me know if there are more details you want to troubleshoot, Ock.
 

Black Octagon

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Thanks Jack. Will try FireFox when I get home then. Didn't think of trying to use a browser to play the downloaded files. Only tried media players for the files and browsers for the embedded vids.