Video card pricing

Tullphan

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I'm in the market for a video card.
My budget will put me in the 7600GT range (~$100) right now, although I see I can pick up an 8600GT for about $10 more AR.
Can anyone look into their crystal ball & give me some idea where prices will be around Nov/Dec?
Thanks.
 

Slugbait

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The 8600GT MSRP could possibly be $15 cheaper than it is now. But I would bet it'll only be $10 cheaper.
 

Demoth

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In the $110 range on black Friday, maybe a high end last gen card- X1950XT.

The HD2900 Pro will be out by then and should already have gone through an initial price cut. This will be replacing the X1950XT in the $200 range. Being that the HD2900 Pro will essentially be a full HD2900 XT with a modest overclock, the X1950XT should drop $70 plus an additional 25% on black Friday.

This would be a far superior card to the 8600. If you could shell out $60 more, the HD2900 Pro would destroy the X1950XT and would allow you to skip the next few generations unless there is a specific DX 10 title you need to play in the future with very high reqs.
 

Tullphan

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The only reason keeping me from getting an ATI card is because I dual-boot w/Ubuntu.
Last I checked, Ubuntu & ATI didn't play well together.
 

bryanW1995

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It is highly unlikely that the 1950xt will drop that much new. I suspect that the 150-175 price point is as cheap as the x1950xt will get, making the 2900 pro a phenomenal value. However, numerous people have mentioned that 2900 pro is supposed to be limited edition, so there might not be any price cuts as inventory could run out in a few months.

I've heard of problems with ati and linux. Try to wait until Q1 and go for 8700gts/g92.
 

Tullphan

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So is the current pricing for the 7xxx series & 8600 series nVidia chips going to pretty much remain where they are?
 

Demoth

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Of the 7XXX series, the 7900GT is probably the only card still worth getting. Supplies are so limited I don't see it dropping much in price anymore. The X1950XT I can forsee dropping $70 because there is still a large amount of stock left.

The 8600 series will be dropping, but for a gamer it is not a good line. It's closer to a 6600GT then a 8800 or 2900HD.

Hopefully, the HD2900 Pro will force the 8800 GTS down to the $200 range, but it seems unlikely as it is still going to be the most popular seller.

This generation on the Nvidia side, there is a huge leap from the mid range to mid-high (86XX to 88XX) and a large leap in cost. Hopefully, the release of the HD2900 Pro will shake a lot of things up pricing wise, but I don't see much choice on the Nvidia side in the $100 range.

Depending on your CPU, what games you want to play and what resolution you play at, I'd recommmend trying to save up another $80 for a 8800 series and buy something that will last a good amount of time on black Friday.
 
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Originally posted by: Demoth
In the $110 range on black Friday, maybe a high end last gen card- X1950XT.

The HD2900 Pro will be out by then and should already have gone through an initial price cut. This will be replacing the X1950XT in the $200 range. Being that the HD2900 Pro will essentially be a full HD2900 XT with a modest overclock, the X1950XT should drop $70 plus an additional 25% on black Friday.

I doubt we'll see any x1950XT's for sale on Black Friday because it's hard to find them even now unless a bricks 'n' mortar retailer has a warehouse full of them and they're saving them for Black Friday. Maybe we'll see the x1950 Pro's.

Overall, I can't say that I've been real impressed with Black Friday video card deals in the past. I think it's because the bricks 'n' mortar retailers' prices are normally at least 50-75% higher than what you'd find on Newegg to begin with.

So, where is this huge stash of x1950XT's (not Pro's) that you keep telling us about? Does Newegg even have any in stock?
 

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Yep, Black Friday isn't for video cards. It's for HDTV's, monitors, handhelds and the like. People who are actually shopping for a decent video card will be buying online. My Best Buy has some X1600's, 6200s, and maybe some 7-series. They're all massively overpriced (at least 75-100%).
 

Keysplayr

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"What can one expect by Black Friday?"

Up at the crack of dawn.
Long lines around the entire perimeter of the store. People on the verge of a psychotic episode from being bumped into too many times. Groaners, complainers, nastiness.

Yeah, sounds like a hoot. ;)
 
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Why go to a black friday sale when you can go to newegg and get the same prices year round ? I'd rather sleep till noon, get online and have a 56" DLP delivered to my house for $1000 vs getting up at thebutt crack of dawn to have to haul one home myself for $1100 +
 

Demoth

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So, where is this huge stash of x1950XT's (not Pro's) that you keep telling us about? Does Newegg even have any in stock?
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Yes, Newegg and most of the online vendors have loads of the GECUBEs.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/...39&name=Radeon+X1950XT

Many other mainstream vendors are carrying different makes of the X1950XT as well (still in stock and available for large bulk order)-

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi...esults-process=default

Compare that with the availability of in stock 7900/7950GT/GTX.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr...Aaps%2Ck%3A7900&page=1

Many vendors have stocks of X1950XTs. There is still very little demand for these cards. Once the HD2900 Pro is selling in the $220 range, very few who would otherwise be considering a X1950XT would touch this card for over $150. As far as the HD 2900 Pro being a limited production, we'll have to see what ATI decides. Sales of this card will be strong in the right price range and ATI needs to build a customer base and reputation. Beating Nvidia in the $200 segment, an attractive price point for many gamers, goes a long way to fixing bad press. ATI/AMD can compete and have the funds to survive a slump, but they need to start fixing some of the PR damage now.

On the other hand, the 8600GT will continue to sell as the average gamer who dosen't know who Nvidia or ATI even are will usually be steered to that card by a friend or Best Buy employee.

As far as Black Friday not being good for vid cards, it will be luck and maybe some intense web searching to find a killer deal. I bought a 6800GT from a vendor on BF at about a 25% reduction under the lowest normal price watch listed a few years back. Most online vendors, including Newegg, drum up new customers through Black Friday and will often put some good discounts on attractive products such as vid cards, even if selling at a loss. Granted, it's a crap shoot and more then likely, one of the super clocked cards that I personally always go for, will not be discounted. You don't have to go to a retail store for some BF sales, online vendors do a limited inventory as well.

I personally love buying a high mid range card for $250 and holding on to it for two years. I am still going strong with a OCed 7900GT and a A64 3500 running at 2.8GHz, getting 90 FPS in Vanguard on high settings (1680 X 1050) while others with dual core high end systems with 8800GTSs are getting a slide show because they don't know how to tweak their system. For me, it's not about that last few FPS over 100, it's all about building a system for $400 and smoking the guy who just bought a $3000 alien ware l33t machine from Best Buy.

As far as I am concerned, DX10 is a joke and a lie. For the next year it's going to be nothing more then a few added lighting effects that will make your first and second gen DX10 cards bleed. Nothing game play wise about DX10 has impressed me with any of the demos previewed.

The upcoming 9800 series excites me, 2X the performance of the 8800 series and less power draw, but only for DX9 applications. Most gamers could pick up a X1950XT or a 7900GT and sit out the 8800-9800 generation with little lost.

If I was buying right now and had a 6600GT or under, I'd be getting this as it is one of the best cost/performance deals right now (I do count mail in rebates when pricing as I have never had a problem with any company yet when following the rebate instructions to the tee)-

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...o=2918356&sku=B52-7870


An over-clocked 7950GT is in the same league as a 8800GTS/HD 2900 XT in most DX9 games as well as near future DX10 games minus a few gimmikey effects. Future truely optimized DX10 titles will require a card a few more generations up.
 

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
"What can one expect by Black Friday?"

Up at the crack of dawn.
Long lines around the entire perimeter of the store. People on the verge of a psychotic episode from being bumped into too many times. Groaners, complainers, nastiness.

Yeah, sounds like a hoot. ;)

ROFL!! I was thinking the exact same thing!


You wouldn't catch me with 100miles of a best buy on that day :D
 

Midnight Rambler

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Hmmm ...

Not many GeCube X1950XTs left at the Egg, 256MB model for $260 and open box version of it for $20 less.

Amazon listing shows only a very few x1950's, and most are PROs not XTs.

Amazon listing for 7900's also shows only a very few models left.


Face it, they're ALL almost gone by now. Either buy a newer, current model or wait and see what happens in the next couple months. And if you buy nVidia, buy an EVGA model so you can at least take advantage of their "Trade Up" program within 90 days.
 

Tullphan

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Originally posted by: Demoth

If I was buying right now and had a 6600GT or under, I'd be getting this as it is one of the best cost/performance deals right now (I do count mail in rebates when pricing as I have never had a problem with any company yet when following the rebate instructions to the tee)-

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...o=2918356&sku=B52-7870


An over-clocked 7950GT is in the same league as a 8800GTS/HD 2900 XT in most DX9 games as well as near future DX10 games minus a few gimmikey effects. Future truely optimized DX10 titles will require a card a few more generations up.

That seems like a good deal on that video card, the only thing that bothers me is that it's from Tiger Direct & there's a rebate involved. Also, $21 tax & shipping kills it for me. :(


Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
"What can one expect by Black Friday?"

Up at the crack of dawn.
Long lines around the entire perimeter of the store. People on the verge of a psychotic episode from being bumped into too many times. Groaners, complainers, nastiness.

Yeah, sounds like a hoot. ;)

I know. I usually work p/t @ Radioshack during the Christmas season so I miss out on the Black Friday deals. Here lately, though, they haven't been real impressive...at least for the stuff i'm interested in.
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
"What can one expect by Black Friday?"

Up at the crack of dawn.
Long lines around the entire perimeter of the store. People on the verge of a psychotic episode from being bumped into too many times. Groaners, complainers, nastiness.

Yeah, sounds like a hoot. ;)

Hehe, yep... You can be sure that whatever deals you may have found are certainly not worth the experience... What some people will do for another 50 bucks off of something is...

Yeah, I sleep in that day.
 
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Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
Hmmm ...

Not many GeCube X1950XTs left at the Egg, 256MB model for $260 and open box version of it for $20 less.

Amazon listing shows only a very few x1950's, and most are PROs not XTs.

Amazon listing for 7900's also shows only a very few models left.

Yeah, if anything the links he posted to support his point only undermined it. Note that the two x1950xt's shown at Newegg are for AGP. The x1950xt that was listed at Amazon is out of stock.

I think it's possible that we might see a couple good deals on video cards on Black Friday, but I don't think the x1950xt will be one of them, which is unfortunate.
 

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
"What can one expect by Black Friday?"

Up at the crack of dawn.
Long lines around the entire perimeter of the store. People on the verge of a psychotic episode from being bumped into too many times. Groaners, complainers, nastiness.

Yeah, sounds like a hoot.

They should rename Black Friday to Black & Blue Friday!