Video card for 24x AA?

[Rifter]

please tell me this is a troll thread.....

 

[Lepton87]

24x MSAA is pointless. 8x SSAA > 24xMSAA , even 4X SSAA would provide better IQ.

 

[Magic Carpet]

He was obviously joking.

hehe, I am so behind this "tech", I wouldn't be surprised if it was for real. I've always preferred higher resolution instead of these image filters. Dunno why, I just don't care enough.

 

[Barfo]

I think I'll recommend the 7970.

FYI, this guy is 58 years old, hence the resistance to get a better monitor/CPU/pretty much anything other than a video card.

 

[toyota]

a nearly $500 7970 to play games at just 1280x1024 is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. not only is 1280x1024 a ridiculously low res but modern games are made for widescreen not the horrible 5:4 aspect ratio. and with a stock Q9400, he will never even get the real performance a 7970 could actually deliver at 1920 never mind the silly low 1280 res.

the guy has no clue what he is doing and you certainly are not helping him by letting him get a 7970.

 

[AdamK47]

I gave up trying to get AA working in everything. Instead I plopped down $1200 for a 30" monitor. I find that I don't really need AA at 2560x1600.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Switching to something like a 1920x1200 panel and then using small amounts of AA such as 4xAA will make everything look nicer. than 24xAA at 1024

This is true. At 1920x1200, I don't even use AA. Truthfully, I never really cared for it, though I've never owned a truly high-end video card that was capable of the highest resolutions, and still had horsepower left for AA settings. Although my SLI GTX460 cards might, I haven't really experimented with them.

I guess this is another way of saying, I prefer raw framerate to AA.

Edit: I think I see everyone basically suggesting the same thing, and then the OP gets argumentative and thumbing his nose up at everyone else's (IMHO, reasonable) suggestions.

He should seriously spend that money on a better monitor first. A nice 24" 1080p monitor would look WAY better than his 24x AA.

AA has somewhat diminishing returns, if you have a bunch of money to drop on hardware to improve image quality it's a better idea to get a better monitor which runs a higher resolution and increase the base level image quality rather than focus on the diminishing returns of high levels of AA.

Switching to something like a 1920x1200 panel and then using small amounts of AA such as 4xAA will make everything look nicer. than 24xAA at 1024

Getting a better monitor FIRST, and THEN upgrading the video card to one that affords a REASONABLE amount of AA at that res, would seem to be the most prudent course, especially for budget.

However, I can think of one particular reason why an "old geezer" (is that really you, Barfo?) wouldn't want a newer, larger, higher-res monitor, and that is because it would make the text too hard to read with their eyesight, for non-gaming tasks.

So, possibly, one way of optimizing both text size, and gaming graphics quality, would be utilizing a high level of AA, on a lower resolution.

So if you want to game on a 7970 on a 1024 screen, hey, be my guest, it's a free country. But I probably wouldn't choose to do that myself.

 

[Rifter]

a nearly $500 7970 to play games at just 1280x1024 is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. not only is 1280x1024 a ridiculously low res but modern games are made for widescreen not the horrible 5:4 aspect ratio. and with a stock Q9400, he will never even get the real performance a 7970 could actually deliver at 1920 never mind the silly low 1280 res.

the guy has no clue what he is doing and you certainly are not helping him by letting him get a 7970.

Im going to agree 100%, a 7970 for 1280x1024 with that cpu is not just a bad idea its plain stupid.

Still think this is a troll thread though.

 

[thejunglegod]

So you are actually going to recommend the poor guy a 7970? Shame on you Barfo.
Also, cross check his PSU. You'd look like a fool if he ends up getting a 7970 and theres not enough juice to run it.

BTW isnt the card going to get bottlenecked with that CPU?? Just asking.

And i repeat "BIGGEST OVERKILL EVER".

 

[Dice144]

Few guys at work love there 1680x1050 monitors! I personally prefer 2560x1440 or even 1920x1080 over a low res. But they respond BUT I can get over 110 fps??? They think lower res and higher AA looks better then a bigger monitor with less AA (I still run the same level of AA).

 

[Zanovar]

jesus fook a 7970 for 1280x1024 is just nuts.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

jesus fook a 7970 for 1280x1024 is just nuts.

This. It is a bit lame to even get it for 1080p unless you want 120hz or 8x+ aa in nearly every game while retaining minimum fps above 60.

7970 shouldn't even be bought for 16x10 regardless much less 12x10

 

[pcm81]

Something to consider in adition to AA is the draw distance. That is a big hitter too...

 

[thelastjuju]

1280x1024 @ 24x AA has to be some sort of sick joke... But I'm pretty sure these 24x counts are really just from artificial filters or whatever though.. and they have all these different AA approaches now..

Although equally shocking to me, is the guy with an i7 and not one, not two, but THERE 7970 who doesn't run AA. :whiste:

Makes no sense to me.. one of the primary reasons PC games have, still do, and probably will always have the edge over console counterparts, is indeed the ability to crank the AA and AF.. playing without AA is absolutely disgusting experience.

But if you are on a 32-50+" HDTV and not a true PC monitor, you probably won't notice AA as much, because the DPI per inch is nowhere near that of say a 22-24" monitor. But I personally still notice it a little bit on a 46".. its just nowhere near as pronounced.

 

[SolMiester]

Yeah, suggest a 22"1680*1050 res LCD, the text pitch isnt as small as the 1920*1080 screens....

 

[GlacierFreeze]

spending 500-600 bucks for a video card to play games at 1280x1024 is beyond silly.

+1.

Waste of money.

 

[d3fu5i0n]

This is utterly pure insanity, INSANITY I TELL YOU!
The eternal double facepalm begins...

 

[Rifter]

tell him....

 

[Insomniator]

If he's 58 years old then he should have the wisdom to realize when he is wasting his money. Stop playing games on an ancient monitor. Do not blow $600 on a top of the line cpu just to run some ridiculous amount of AA that I'm sure is not worth it. Upgrade parts of your computer that make sense before just blindly wanting some setting to work.

Then again if he's playing hard core computer games while pushing 60 he might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

 

[Zanovar]

tell him....

hahaha

 

[toyota]

I want a 7970 so I can see my graphics in all their glory at 1280x1024

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[Zanovar]

I want a 7970 so I can see my graphics in all their glory at 1280x1024

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omg too funny.

 

[Lonbjerg]

1080p 8x MSAA > 768 24x SSAA.

Not if that means dropping an CRT and getting the added lag and lower I.Q of an LCD...

I swear most people must be really blind...or we are oberserving the "lemming-effect" again!

OMG...FPS!!!
OMG...GHZ!!!
OMG...RESOLUTION!!!

WTF...IPC?!
WTF...Micro-what?!
WTF...Inputlag?!

 

[boxleitnerb]

24x MSAA is pointless. 8x SSAA > 24xMSAA , even 4X SSAA would provide better IQ.

Exactly this. It's like going into a winter night with 5 jackets over one another but no shoes and no gloves. Overkill but lacking in other areas

 

[thejunglegod]

Then again if he's playing hard core computer games while pushing 60 he might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

WTF?? i intend to play hardcore games when im 60 too. What is wrong with that?