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[Video] 20 Muslims attack man for drinking during Ramadan

If a Muslim does something to embarrass a western liberal, they're extremists.

You must not have read the memo.

Also, you're an Islamaphobe racist for pointing that out.
 
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Nexus wasn't who I was honoring... anyhow...

This list isn't nearly as impressive as your linked images, but here goes:

A list radical-right terrorist plots, conspiracies and racist rampages since the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995:

October 9, 1995. An Amtrak employee is killed when a train derails near Hyder, Arizona because the track it's traveling on has been sabotaged. The perpetrators are never found, but anti-law enforcement propaganda messages from the "Sons of Gestapo" are found near the scene.

April 12, 1996. A neo-Nazi named Larry Wayne Shoemake, who is found to have owned at least 22 firearms and an estimated 20,000 rounds of ammunition, kills a black man in a random Jackson, Mississippi attack.

July 27, 1996 A bomb set by Eric Robert Rudolph, who is affiliated with the "Christian Identity" fundamentalist movement, kills one person at the Atlanta Olympics.

January 29, 1998. Another bomb set by Rudolph kills a man at a Birmingham abortion clinic.

May 29, 1998. Three militia sympathizers named Alan Pilon, Robert Mason and Jason McVean fire 29 shots at a Cortez, Colorado police officer who is trying to apprehend them because they've stolen a water truck, killing him. The three evade capture but are believed to ultimately have died in the desert wilderness surrounding the crime scene.

October 23, 1998. With his wife and children nearby, an abortion provider in Amherst, New York is shot and killed through the window of his home by James Charles Kopp.

July 1, 1999. Brothers Benjamin Matthew Williams and James Tyler Williams, who also have connections to the "Christian Identity" movement, kill a gay couple in Redding, California.

July 2-July 5 1999. Neo-Nazi Benjamin Nathaniel Smith kills black basketball coach Ricky Byrdsong and and a Korean graduate student and wounds nine other non-white victims in a three-day shooting spree.

August 10, 1999. Neo-Nazi Buford Furrow kills a Filipino immigrant after firing 70 shots inside a Jewish community center near Los Angeles.

April 28, 2000. An unemployed immigration attorney named Richard Baumhammers who believes "non-white immigration" should be banned shoots and kills five people in the Pittsburgh area.

December 8, 2003. Steven Bixby kills two police officers in Abbeville, South Carolina during a dispute over the state's decision to use a 20-foot strip of the Bixbys' land to widen a highway.

May 24, 2004. Wade and Christopher Lay, a father-son pair obsessed with the 1993 government siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, kill a bank security guard in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

January 21, 2009. Neo-Nazi Keith Luke rapes and kills an immigrant from Cape Verde in Brockton, Massachusetts, then kills a 72-year-old homeless immigrant.

April 4, 2009. Richard Andrew Poplawski, a frequent poster on the white supremacist Stormfront website who apparently believes a national "gun ban" is imminent, kills three Pittsburgh police officers.

April 25, 2009. Joshua Cartwright kills two Okaloosa County, Florida sheriff's deputies. Per a police report, Cartwright's wife says he was paranoid about the U.S. government and "extremely disturbed" by Barack Obama's election.

May 30, 2009. Shawna Forde, Albert Gaxiola, and Jason Bush kill a Latino man and his nine-year-old daughter in Arivaca, Arizona during a robbery intended to raise funds for the "Minutemen American Defense" group.

May 31, 2009. Scott Roeder kills Dr. George Tiller, an abortion provider, in the Wichita, Kansas Lutheran church where Tiller serves as an usher.

June 10, 2009. An 89-year-old white supremacist named James von Brunn kills a security guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. from point-blank range.

Feb. 18, 2010. Joseph Andrew Stack flies a plane into an Austin, Texas IRS office, killing one person.

May 20, 2010. A father-son pair named Jerry and Joseph Kane (who conduct "seminars" about how "sovereign citizens" can evade debt) kill two West Memphis, Arkansas police officers.

September 26-October 3, 2011. Avowed white supremacists David Pedersen and Holly Ann Grigsby kill Grigsby's father and stepmother in Washington, a man they believe is Jewish in Oregon, and a black man in California.
August 5, 2012. A white supremacist named Wade Michael Page kills six people at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.

August 16, 2012. "Sovereign citizen"-movement adherents Brian Smith and Kyle Joekel, who are now awaiting trial, allegedly kill two Louisiana sheriff's deputies in a trailer-park ambush.

September 4, 2012. Christopher Lacy, a software engineer who lives in a rural trailer and apparently sympathizes with the "sovereign citizen" movement, shoots a California Highway Patrol officer who dies the next day.

April 13, 2014. Frazier Glenn Miller, a 73-year-old with a long history of KKK activity, kills three people in the area of a Jewish community center and Jewish retirement community in Overland Park, Kansas.

June 8, 2014. Jerad and Amanda Miller kill two police officers in a random attack at a pizza restaurant in Las Vegas, then kill a customer at a Walmart. The Millers had spent time on Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's property during protests related to Bundy's dispute with the federal government.

September 12, 2014: Eric Frein allegedly shoots and kills a Pennslyvania state trooper; he's caught 48 days later after hiding from authorities in "survivalist" fashion in a rural area.

June 17, 2015. Dylann Roof allegedly kills nine people at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina.

July 24, 2015: John Russell Houser, a 59-year-old man with a history of expressing extremist and anti-feminist beliefs, kills two women at a screening of the Amy Schumer comedy Trainwreck in Lafayette, Louisiana.

November 27, 2015: Robert Lewis Dear, Jr., attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado. A police officer and two civilians were killed; five police officers and four civilians were injured.

The Policy of Containment has Failed...
 
do you want to compare that list of anti government actions perpetrated on US soil, to the list of anti government actions perpetrated by muslims in their home countries?
 
do you want to compare that list of anti government actions perpetrated on US soil, to the list of anti government actions perpetrated by muslims in their home countries?

Why? Do you suddenly care about what happens in Muslim countries?
 
Nexus wasn't who I was honoring... anyhow...

This list isn't nearly as impressive as your linked images, but here goes:

A list radical-right terrorist plots, conspiracies and racist rampages since the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995:

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The Policy of Containment has Failed...

Based on this data:

Non-Islamic "radical right" terrorism death toll, last two decades: 64
Islamic terrorism death toll, last six months (San Bernardino & Orlando): 64

Are you trying to prove that jihadists are orders of magnitude more dangerous than "radical right" terrorists?

Anyway, the FBI actually has reported that Muslims are only responsible for 6% of US terror attacks, but that data also contradicts your narrative about right wing groups; most terror attacks were committed by Latino groups, followed by extreme left wing groups.
 
Based on this data:

Non-Islamic "radical right" terrorism death toll, last two decades: 64
Islamic terrorism death toll, last six months (San Bernardino & Orlando): 64

Are you trying to prove that jihadists are orders of magnitude more dangerous than "radical right" terrorists?

Anyway, the FBI actually has reported that Muslims are only responsible for 6% of US terror attacks, but that data also contradicts your narrative about right wing groups; most terror attacks were committed by Latino groups, followed by extreme left wing groups.


While the cumulative data suggests what you wrote, you apparently didn't read the FBI's entire terrorism summary that you linked, did you?

Here are some excerpts:

Prior to the early 1980s, the FBI’s terrorism-related investigations were dominated by domestic concerns. During the period from 1908 to 1982, the FBI dealt with two broad categories of domestic terrorism: right- and left-wing extremist groups. In the period between World War I and World War II, the domestic threat primarily came from right-wing groups, like the Ku Klux Klan, which often adhered to principles of racial supremacy or embraced antigovernment and antiregulatory beliefs in favor of individual freedoms.


Beginning in the 1950s, the most serious domestic terrorist threat shifted to leftist-oriented extremist groups that generally professed a revolutionary socialist doctrine and viewed themselves as protectors of the people against the adverse effects of capitalism and U.S. foreign policies.

During the 1970s and 1980s, Croatian nationalists and the anti-Castro Cuban group Omega 7 arose as prominent terrorist threats. Leftist groups, however, continued to remain active during these decades and committed numerous bombings...

The threat from leftist groups receded by the late 1980s as law enforcement dismantled their infrastructures. The dissolution of the communist Soviet Union in December 1991 into the democratic Russian Federation with a free market economy further deprived many of these groups of their ideological foundation and patronage.

With respect to domestic terrorism, left-wing political groups and special interest terrorism—that is, terrorism committed by extremists who use violence to compel society to change its attitudes about specific causes—asserted themselves during the 1990s. The majority of domestic terrorism incidents from 1993 to 2001 were attributable to the left-wing special interest movements the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF).

Right-wing extremism, however, primarily in the form of domestic militias and conservative special interest causes, began to overtake left-wing extremism as the most dangerous, if not the most prolific, domestic terrorist threat to the country during the 1990s.
In contrast to the ALF and the ELF, which have pursued a philosophy that avoids physical violence in favor of acts of property damage that cause their victims economic harm, right-wing extremists pursued a qualitatively different method of operation by targeting people.

The terrorism preventions for 2002 through 2005 present a more diverse threat picture. Eight of the 14 recorded terrorism preventions stemmed from right-wing extremism, and included disruptions to plotting by individuals involved with the militia, white supremacist, constitutionalist and tax protestor, and anti-abortion movements.
 
While the cumulative data suggests what you wrote, you apparently didn't read the FBI's entire terrorism summary that you linked, did you?

Here are some excerpts:

That's true. Right wing groups are more likely to target people--usually police officers--and left wing groups are more prone to terrorism in general.

Since the list I replied to only included fatal terrorist attacks, I suppose I should have only considered fatal attacks in my response. My bad.

However, do note that the "Muslims only commit 6% of terror attacks" statistic is based on this broader definition of terrorism. When just considering attacks that intentionally target people, that percentage grows significantly.
 
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Why? Do you suddenly care about what happens in Muslim countries?

Why do self-proclaimed liberals who are supposed to be looking out for free speech, separation of religion from state, LGBT rights, human rights, women's rights etc., who have no problem criticizing creationists, the religious right, hypocrisy in churches and it's members, defending art like "Piss Christ", etc.,

somehow forget all that and become the biggest apologists for the equivalent of the religious right on steroids, which has shown time and time again its incompatibility with the modern western secular state and its ideals?

You know, that modern western secular state that protects your very freedoms to criticize religion, marry who you want, not be subject to Christian laws, change religions or even become an atheist without fearing death or harm,

pretty much live life the way you want without some crazy religious fundamentalist having the ability to force you otherwise.
 
Why do self-proclaimed liberals who are supposed to be looking out for free speech, separation of religion from state, LGBT rights, human rights, women's rights etc., who have no problem criticizing creationists, the religious right, hypocrisy in churches and it's members, defending art like "Piss Christ", etc.,

somehow forget all that and become the biggest apologists for the equivalent of the religious right on steroids, which has shown time and time again its incompatibility with the modern western secular state and its ideals?

You know, that modern western secular state that protects your very freedoms to criticize religion, marry who you want, not be subject to Christian laws, change religions or even become an atheist without fearing death or harm,

pretty much live life the way you want without some crazy religious fundamentalist having the ability to force you otherwise.

No shit.

The answer is because they are two sides of the same coin. They are being used by the same power and don't even realize it. They both find a common enemy in Christians and both groups follow the same master while denying it at the same time.
 
Nexus wasn't who I was honoring... anyhow...

This list isn't nearly as impressive as your linked images, but here goes:


The Policy of Containment has Failed...

How many of those are mass shootings? A couple? Why don't you list for us the mass shootings in the united states that have all been committed in the name of a Christian religion? ***And no, just because a shooter isn't a Muslim doesn't by default make them christian or acting out of faith.

I'm sure you can find a few. I'm pretty sure you aren't going to find a laundry list of Radicalized Christian mass shootings.
 
How many of those are mass shootings?

Ah, death count matters. Gotcha...

Why don't you list for us the mass shootings in the united states that have all been committed in the name of a Christian religion?

This wasn't a list of "Christian" killings, it was a list of radical right wing American terrorist killings. Nice to know some think one killing is somehow better/different than another based on body counts and whether or not your invisible friend in the sky told you to do it or how good your tan is...
 
Ah, death count matters. Gotcha...



This wasn't a list of "Christian" killings, it was a list of radical right wing American terrorist killings. Nice to know some think one killing is somehow better/different than another based on body counts and whether or not your invisible friend in the sky told you to do it or how good your tan is...

Seems like our society only cares about the mass shootings. Chicago any given week? Meh. Guy shoots up a night club with 49 dead? Burn the constitution.

The reason we are even have a debate this past week is due to a radicalized Islamist turned terrorist... Why don't people keep on that topic instead of trying to lessen that asshole's rampage by trying to contrast him with other non-related acts of violence?
 
Seems like our society only cares about the mass shootings. Chicago any given week? Meh. Guy shoots up a night club with 49 dead? Burn the constitution.

The reason we are even have a debate this past week is due to a radicalized Islamist turned terrorist... Why don't people keep on that topic instead of trying to lessen that asshole's rampage by trying to contrast him with other non-related acts of violence?

Exactly, it's pure and simple bullshit, and those focusing on a gun ban are fools, throwing away their rights.
 
I legally carry, hunt, and own several other misc. guns. You won't hear me calling for any such ban...

Come on, let's make the whole country a shooting & bombing gallery for terrorists.

It was just a random choice on Omar's part to pick a gun free zone, right?
 
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