Vick has just become the NFL's MVP.

LeeTJ

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If Peerless Price is even half as good as he appeared last season. he will really stretch the field for Vick and Finneran.

Vick will be the NFL MVP this season.
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: Hamburgerpimp
Give him a few years. He's only 22.

ya, i know, price is young. :)

Price will make Vick that much better than he was last year.

price with his speed will without question stretch the field. Vick w/ a stretched out field. OMG. he will be amazing.

 

Hamburgerpimp

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That's disaster for other teams. The secondary is all the way down the field. Then you have the NFL's fastest man still holding the ball.
 

Argo

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I doubt this. As exciting as Vick is, I can't see him having a long career, with the kinda hits he takes every day.
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: Argo
I doubt this. As exciting as Vick is, I can't see him having a long career, with the kinda hits he takes every day.

your totally entitled to your opinion.

i would like to comment however that your two statements have nothing to do with each other.

i can't see him having a long career has NO bearing on whethor or not he will be MVP this season. :)
 

Hamburgerpimp

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I doubt this. As exciting as Vick is, I can't see him having a long career, with the kinda hits he takes every day.

Get real. He's bigger than Emitt Smith and faster. Smith has taken a pounding far greater than Vick will ever see. Vick's only problem is his speed. It's like a dragster trying to make a pin point turn.
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Argo
I doubt this. As exciting as Vick is, I can't see him having a long career, with the kinda hits he takes every day.

your totally entitled to your opinion.

i would like to comment however that your two statements have nothing to do with each other.

i can't see him having a long career has NO bearing on whethor or not he will be MVP this season. :)

It does. Because sometime in the middle of the next season he'll get leveled by a linebacker and will have to skip a couple of games. Which will strongly decrease his chances of winning an MVP. Of course he may get lucky and live through yet another season :)
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: Hamburgerpimp
I doubt this. As exciting as Vick is, I can't see him having a long career, with the kinda hits he takes every day.

Get real. He's bigger than Emitt Smith and faster. Smith has taken a pounding far greater than Vick will ever see. Vick's only problem is his speed. It's like a dragster trying to make a pin point turn.

Is this why he dislocated both of his shoulders last season?
 

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Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Hamburgerpimp
I doubt this. As exciting as Vick is, I can't see him having a long career, with the kinda hits he takes every day.

Get real. He's bigger than Emitt Smith and faster. Smith has taken a pounding far greater than Vick will ever see. Vick's only problem is his speed. It's like a dragster trying to make a pin point turn.

Is this why he dislocated both of his shoulders last season?

Seperated both shoulders, jammed 2 fingers (one on throwing hand, other on right hand). Yet still was effective and took the sorry Falcons to the playoffs and a win in Green Bay.
 

jaeger66

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Blah blah blah, we heard all this before with Randall Cunningham. Never happened for him, in fact he had his best year when he was too old to run. And Vick takes an absolute pounding. The Smith comparison is laughable, since short/squat players are much more durable. And Smith was too smart to ever take solid hits.
 

habib89

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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
how has he become the MVP,when the season has been over for like 2 months?

this comming season

as for him being mvp... umm... he may be the most exciting, but mvp is still up in the air i think... he does have a great chance though being that he's on a sorry a$$ team, and carries them on his speedy legs
 

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Vick was often forced to run last season because of poor WRs (easily covered) and a pourus offensive line. With Price on the field, Vick's passing options will improve tremendously and he'll avoid the majority of those bad hits that he received this past season.
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
I guess we shall see... we're six-seven months away from preseason?

5 really, camp opens in late July and Preseason starts in mid-August.
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Hamburgerpimp
I doubt this. As exciting as Vick is, I can't see him having a long career, with the kinda hits he takes every day.

Get real. He's bigger than Emitt Smith and faster. Smith has taken a pounding far greater than Vick will ever see. Vick's only problem is his speed. It's like a dragster trying to make a pin point turn.

...but Emmitt was prepared to take the hits. Rarely did he get totally blindsided like vick does.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
I guess we shall see... we're six-seven months away from preseason?

Little under six months for the start of the season; Thursday Sept 4th - New York Jets vs Washington Redskins.
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Vick was often forced to run last season because of poor WRs (easily covered) and a pourus offensive line. With Price on the field, Vick's passing options will improve tremendously and he'll avoid the majority of those bad hits that he received this past season.

Having passing options is only half the equation. Vick throws a great long ball, but that's about it. The timing patterns, 10 yard outs to the sideline, slants over the middle...those crucial passes take years to learn. It took Rich Gannon 10 years. Jake Plummer still can't do it.
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Pepsei
I guess we shall see... we're six-seven months away from preseason?

5 really, camp opens in late July and Preseason starts in mid-August.

Cool, between that and college football, I'm all set...
I wife won't like it....

 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Queasy
Vick was often forced to run last season because of poor WRs (easily covered) and a pourus offensive line. With Price on the field, Vick's passing options will improve tremendously and he'll avoid the majority of those bad hits that he received this past season.

Having passing options is only half the equation. Vick throws a great long ball, but that's about it. The timing patterns, 10 yard outs to the sideline, slants over the middle...those crucial passes take years to learn. It took Rich Gannon 10 years. Jake Plummer still can't do it.

True...but based on his progress from his first season to this past season, Vick is learning at a pretty fast pace. Remember, last season was his first as a full season starter after only two years of college ball. Unbelievable upside on the kid and great work ethic.
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: Queasy

True...but based on his progress from his first season to this past season, Vick is learning at a pretty fast pace. Remember, last season was his first as a full season starter after only two years of college ball. Unbelievable upside on the kid and great work ethic.

He might be an MVP some day, just not next year. And it won't be because of his running. When he learns how to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball with a 375 pound lineman in his face, then he might be MVP caliber. Quality defenses aren't beaten by scrambling QBs, the Buc and Steeler games last year are good examples.
 

spanky

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vick is good, but i don't think he will be mvp. one thing to note tho... price played opposite eric moulds in buffalo.