vibration for lower back pain? good/bad?

iamme

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i've been having pain in my lower back. does anyone know if those vibrating back massagers are good for back pain? will it do more harm than good?
 

LtPage1

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depending on location of said vibrator, it can do a hell of a lot more good than harm. :D
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: LtPage1
depending on location of said vibrator, it can do a hell of a lot more good than harm. :D

ok, now that we've gotten the vibrator jokes out of the way, does anyone know? :)
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: LtPage1
depending on location of said vibrator, it can do a hell of a lot more good than harm. :D

ok, now that we've gotten the vibrator jokes out of the way, does anyone know? :)

They're never out of the way ;)

I prefer heat over vibration, but who knows if it actually works.
 

KarenMarie

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depends on what kind of pain it is... if it is muscular, it might help... if is is spinal, it could do more harm than good.

:)
 

jadinolf

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Originally posted by: KarenMarie
depends on what kind of pain it is... if it is muscular, it might help... if is is spinal, it could do more harm than good.

:)

Yep. First determine what is causing the pain and then go from there.
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
depends on what kind of pain it is... if it is muscular, it might help... if is is spinal, it could do more harm than good.

:)

Yep. First determine what is causing the pain and then go from there.

hmm...i guess at this point i should go to a doctor. no health insurance = :(
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: LtPage1
depending on location of said vibrator, it can do a hell of a lot more good than harm. :D

ok, now that we've gotten the vibrator jokes out of the way, does anyone know? :)

vibrator eh?
 

jadinolf

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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
depends on what kind of pain it is... if it is muscular, it might help... if is is spinal, it could do more harm than good.

:)

Yep. First determine what is causing the pain and then go from there.

hmm...i guess at this point i should go to a doctor. no health insurance = :(

Understand but yes, you should go.
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
depends on what kind of pain it is... if it is muscular, it might help... if is is spinal, it could do more harm than good.

:)

Yep. First determine what is causing the pain and then go from there.

hmm...i guess at this point i should go to a doctor. no health insurance = :(

Understand but yes, you should go.

so i go to a "normal" doctor for back pain? or do i find some sort of back specialist? a chiropractor?
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: iamme
so i go to a "normal" doctor for back pain? or do i find some sort of back specialist? a chiropractor?

You're in Michigan? Skip across the border into Canada.
 

StageLeft

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Before anything else make sure that you're not slouching when you sit (esp at computer), and make sure you're sleeping ONLY on your back or side. Never the stomach. fixing both of those eliminated, almost overnight, years of back pain.

Frankly I'd be very surprised if a vibrating chair does a damn thing for back pain. It's a deep rooted pain; you can't fix it by shaking the back a little bit in some chair you buy at brookstone.
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: iamme
so i go to a "normal" doctor for back pain? or do i find some sort of back specialist? a chiropractor?

You're in Michigan? Skip across the border into Canada.

i know that people to go canada for prescrip. drugs, but how would it help me in this case? canada has universal health care, but how does that affect me? are the private rates relatively cheaper?
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Before anything else make sure that you're not slouching when you sit (esp at computer), and make sure you're sleeping ONLY on your back or side. Never the stomach. fixing both of those eliminated, almost overnight, years of back pain.

Frankly I'd be very surprised if a vibrating chair does a damn thing for back pain. It's a deep rooted pain; you can't fix it by shaking the back a little bit in some chair you buy at brookstone.

slouching while i sit is something i've been trying to correct. fortunately, i've been making a concious effort to sit up straight and walk un-slouched.

as far as sleeping on my back, that's tough because i toss and turn so much during the night. also, i snore so loud when sleeping on my back, that i've sort of trained myself to sleep on my stomach :( perhaps i should try to change again :)
 

madthumbs

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A lot of people do a lot of lifting with their backs, but hardly use the antagonist muscles (abs). Having an unbalance of muscle to antagonist can cause all kinds of problems like charlie horses, loss of range of motion, cramps, back pain. Try some crunches, or flex your abs once in a while to balance them out with your back muscles.
 

rh71

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I heard sleeping on a hard floor (instead of a soft mattress) helps back pain... true ?

I think this is a reason why the chinese (or is it all asians) think it's better to have a HARD mattress.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: rh71
I heard sleeping on a hard floor (instead of a soft mattress) helps back pain... true ?

I think this is a reason why the chinese (or is it all asians) think it's better to have a HARD mattress.

My mom had some back trouble and would have needed surgery, my dad and her started sleeping on the floor and she didn't need it anymore

It helps flatten the back out a little

 

iamme

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: rh71
I heard sleeping on a hard floor (instead of a soft mattress) helps back pain... true ?

I think this is a reason why the chinese (or is it all asians) think it's better to have a HARD mattress.

My mom had some back trouble and would have needed surgery, my dad and her started sleeping on the floor and she didn't need it anymore

It helps flatten the back out a little

hmm....maybe i'll try sleeping on the floor for a few nights.

funny side story: my grandmother (korean) is so used to sleeping on the floor. her bed actually has a wooden board on it to simulate the hard floor. when i was younger, i remember running into her room during the day to jump on the bed. i was greeted by a faceful of wooden board and remembered never to jump on her bed again :p
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: madthumbs
A lot of people do a lot of lifting with their backs, but hardly use the antagonist muscles (abs). Having an unbalance of muscle to antagonist can cause all kinds of problems like charlie horses, loss of range of motion, cramps, back pain. Try some crunches, or flex your abs once in a while to balance them out with your back muscles.
lift stuff with your leg muscles, not your back... everyone should learn this.
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: madthumbs
A lot of people do a lot of lifting with their backs, but hardly use the antagonist muscles (abs). Having an unbalance of muscle to antagonist can cause all kinds of problems like charlie horses, loss of range of motion, cramps, back pain. Try some crunches, or flex your abs once in a while to balance them out with your back muscles.
lift stuff with your leg muscles, not your back... everyone should learn this.

yup, good advice.
 

Chadder007

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Right now both my mom and dad are having back troubles. My dad has a pinched nerve along the lower vertebrat. Getting up or sitting down hurts the worst for him. It seems to be the transition. So far he has had anti inflamatory meds, chiropractor, exercise, cortisone shots.....to no avail. It hurts him in the morning the most and slowly gets better later during the day.
As for my mom, she needs to loose a bit of weight probably....she isn't too overweight but still she sits a lot and slumps over while doing paper work.
 

iamme

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anyone know if there's a way i can differentiate between a muscle and a joint problem myself?

the pain is in my lower back, on my right side if you were facing my back directly. almost my upper butt area.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Before anything else make sure that you're not slouching when you sit (esp at computer), and make sure you're sleeping ONLY on your back or side. Never the stomach. fixing both of those eliminated, almost overnight, years of back pain.

Frankly I'd be very surprised if a vibrating chair does a damn thing for back pain. It's a deep rooted pain; you can't fix it by shaking the back a little bit in some chair you buy at brookstone.

slouching while i sit is something i've been trying to correct. fortunately, i've been making a concious effort to sit up straight and walk un-slouched.

as far as sleeping on my back, that's tough because i toss and turn so much during the night. also, i snore so loud when sleeping on my back, that i've sort of trained myself to sleep on my stomach :( perhaps i should try to change again :)
Slouching and stomach - that's almost certainly the route of your problem. Try sleeping on the floor. I do it sometimes, and prop pillows under your legs to keep your low back flush against the floor. It's not comfortable but you'll be shocked how much better your back is in the morning, if it's anything like mine.