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VIA Hyperion 4in1 v4.45 drivers out!

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cool I Dled them but im wounderin are they worth installin on teh KT255A chipset?? im curreently having no problims. so id just like to know
 
I think when it comes to Via, if you want to get a motherboard with a Via chipset, you always get one that ends with "A" because that has all the bug fixes. The first chipset has bugs (ie KT400). Then they release an "A" version (KT400A) which contains fixes for all the areas where they messed up on. I guess naming drivers is going to be a trend from now on. Sheesh. :|
 
driver branding was kinda funny when it was just upstart nvidia calling its drivers detonators for its TNT line... but now its just stupid
 
I saw no performance differences with either my KT266a or my KT333 systems with these drivers. In fact, I lossed 40pts with the KT333 box.
 
AmdInside, you like repeating people don't you
the kt400 might not perform as well as many would like but it has no bugs that I am aware of. Can you name them ?
i could understand the via bashers attacking kt266 and maybe kt133 but it's been good since kt266a (although not too many improvements)
 
Originally posted by: AmdInside
Have you seen the graphs with performance boost numbers? That is the most exagerated performance graph that I have seen. The difference in the first graph is 255 points in 3D Mark 2001 and with the graph, they try to make it seem like the performance improvement is almost 3x over the previous drivers:

http://www.viaarena.com/htmlimages/3dmarkp4x400%20copy.jpg

In the second graph, the difference is much less, only 55 point difference between the previous 4 in 1's and the newest "Hyperion" drivers. Yet the graph makes it look like it is almost 3 times the difference. Do they think we were born yesterday? I can't believe out of all the names they could have come up with, they went with Hyperion. This is the stupidest driver release by a chipset company that I have ever seen. So sad. Via still sucks.

http://www.viaarena.com/htmlimages/3dmarkkt400.gif
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LOL, what kind of bullsh*t graph is that? 'Not to scale?'




 
Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
AmdInside, you like repeating people don't you
the kt400 might not perform as well as many would like but it has no bugs that I am aware of. Can you name them ?
i could understand the via bashers attacking kt266 and maybe kt133 but it's been good since kt266a (although not too many improvements)
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Here is one. When testing raw bandwidth on KT400 w/ 8x AGP video card on Geforce 4 Ti 4200 w/ 8x, it gives higher score in 4x mode than 8x. The Geforce 4 Ti 4200 scores higher in 8x than 4x on an SiS chipset and nForce2 chipset as it should. This is with the Via 4 in 1 drivers version 4.43. Haven't tried the newest "Hyperion" drivers. I love AMD. When I build systems for people, it won't be featuring a Via chipset though.
 
Wokie, tested the new drivers. Apparently, I uninstalled the RAdeon drivers an reinstalled it back and install the hyperion. My wc3 no longer hangs and everything is smoother now.
 
AmdInside, that's not a bug
that's just agp 8x not being used to it's full potential yet
don't expect a TI4200 to do it either
heh
but yeah we all know how agp 8x has no initial need or improvement over 4x
 
Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
AmdInside, that's not a bug
that's just agp 8x not being used to it's full potential yet
don't expect a TI4200 to do it either
heh
but yeah we all know how agp 8x has no initial need or improvement over 4x
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Soulkeeper,
Did you read my post? It works fine on an SiS chipset and nForce2 chipset. It only gives this problem on the KT400 Via chipset. Ergo, this is a bug. No wonder you think Via is good. 😛
 
of course i read yur post
so yur trying to tell me you own a GF4 ti4200 with agp 8x that don't work on your kt400 chipset based board ?
no yur telling me it performs less in 8x mode than 4x mode and you havn't tryed the latest drivers so stop whining

I DON"T HAVE THE TIME TO ARGUE WITH YOU SO PLEASE DON"T ATTACK ME !!!!

 
Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
of course i read yur post
so yur trying to tell me you own a GF4 ti4200 with agp 8x that don't work on your kt400 chipset based board ?
no yur telling me it performs less in 8x mode than 4x mode and you havn't tryed the latest drivers so stop whining

I DON"T HAVE THE TIME TO ARGUE WITH YOU SO PLEASE DON"T ATTACK ME !!!!
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LOL. You are the one who attacked me. You also asked me to show you a bug. I could name a lot more but I guess you don't have time so I'll end it here. 🙂

If the Via chipsets were so stable, major OEM's would not have switched over from Via chipsets to nForce chipsets for their AMD platforms. Via chipsets are in fact cheaper than nForce chipsets and you know how much importance OEM's place on cost.
 
>If the Via chipsets were so stable, major OEM's would not have switched over
> from Via chipsets to nForce chipsets for their AMD platforms. Via chipsets are
> in fact cheaper than nForce chipsets and you know how much importance OEM's place on cost.

Wrong.

Stability is not a problem for major OEM's because they only sell their PCs with hardward that they have tested to have no problems, which is very straight forward. Even if VIA is buggy, they work around it. Therefore a buggy VIA chipset would not caues them to switch to nVidia.

The nForce chipsets have no demonstrated superiorty in stability to KT333 chipsets that you or anyone else has specified, here or anywhere else. AFAIK Evan Leib hasn't picked it up. Why not?

Which major manufacturers have switched to nForce chipsets? nVidia is claiming 30% share IIRC, which leaves 70% other. So major OEMs have not switched as you claim; they use other chipsets at rate over 2 to 1.

nForce chipsets are available with usable 3D graphics built in for dirt cheap, quite sufficient to explain nVidias penetration. The Asus A7N266-VM nForce chipset mobo, with 3D video, is only $70 with shipping, pretty hard to beat with a VIA chipset mobo having 3D video. So nVidia competes on price with VIA very well if you take into account video.
 
Originally posted by: KF
>If the Via chipsets were so stable, major OEM's would not have switched over
> from Via chipsets to nForce chipsets for their AMD platforms. Via chipsets are
> in fact cheaper than nForce chipsets and you know how much importance OEM's place on cost.

Wrong.

Stability is not a problem for major OEM's because they only sell their PCs with hardward that they have tested to have no problems, which is very straight forward. Even if VIA is buggy, they work around it. Therefore a buggy VIA chipset would not caues them to switch to nVidia.

The nForce chipsets have no demonstrated superiorty in stability to KT333 chipsets that you or anyone else has specified, here or anywhere else. AFAIK Evan Leib hasn't picked it up. Why not?

Which major manufacturers have switched to nForce chipsets? nVidia is claiming 30% share IIRC, which leaves 70% other. So major OEMs have not switched as you claim; they use other chipsets at rate over 2 to 1.

nForce chipsets are available with usable 3D graphics built in for dirt cheap, quite sufficient to explain nVidias penetration. The Asus A7N266-VM nForce chipset mobo, with 3D video, is only $70 with shipping, pretty hard to beat with a VIA chipset mobo having 3D video. So nVidia competes on price with VIA very well if you take into account video.
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NVIDIA has all the Tier 1 AMD OEM's which accounts for the majority of the AMD chipset market (HP, NEC, Micron, Alienware, Sony and before they merged with HP, Compaq). NVIDIA has more OEM's than that but the Tier 1 OEM's are the bread and butter for NVIDIA's chipset market. The other OEM's aren't concerned about brand name as much and are primarily driven by cost which is why many of them go with Via or SiS or ALi. Heck, I helped a friend with his system issues a couple of months ago. His system was brand new from a small mom and pop store and they sold him a system with a Via KT266A chipset.

I am not saying the nForce chipset is perfect. It had a lot of flaws when it first came out. But Via has been in this market for a very long time and they continue to produce less than stellar chipsets. They ring out new chipsets so often that it doesn't surprise me that they didn't catch many of the issues that their chipsets have had problems with. I think that is why the "a" chipsets run more stable than the chipsets without the "a".
 
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