VI or Emacs

n0cmonkey

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You should edit the poll: Windows or Emacs? I thought Linux or Emacs, but Linux is just a kernel.
 

pitupepito2000

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
You should edit the poll: Windows or Emacs? I thought Linux or Emacs, but Linux is just a kernel.

lol

I find these two editors so impressive, they are extremely good, and at the same time they have such different approaches to accomplish their goals.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: pitupepito2000
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
You should edit the poll: Windows or Emacs? I thought Linux or Emacs, but Linux is just a kernel.

lol

I find these two editors so impressive, they are extremely good, and at the same time they have such different approaches to accomplish their goals.

Editors? vi is the only editor mentioned!

Yes, I'm tired and playing on the overplayed "emacs is the operating system" joke. :confused:
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: sharq
Should also have an option in the poll for "Both"

NO. It's one or the other. You cannot mix and match ideologies like you are at a buffet!

:p

I've been thinking about playing with nano. emacs is too complicated for me (I'm too lazy- er busy to read the docs), and vi isn't too great for general writing. Atleast for me when I'm trying to relax. Although, Oreilly (the publisher, not the airbag) uses vi, IIRC. ;)
 

pitupepito2000

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Originally posted by: sharq
Should also have an option in the poll for "Both"

When talking about these two editors, mostly is a matter of personal preference. Some people will fight to death to defend their editor :0 They are completely different, vi takes the minimalistic approach of using add-on apps to add features to the editor, vs emacs is basically an environment in which you can do a lot of things and it comes with so many features
 

drag

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Vim. Biatch.

Every once in a while I'll try out Emacs... but it's just to complex. Vi does everything I want so far, and it's very fast. (keys combos vs dual mode, basicly, not actual program speed)
 

civad

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I have been using nano for a while now, esp. for tinkering around with configuration files. I was thinking of giving emacs a try, even bought a book on it, but found it had way too many features than what I was looking for.
vi .. I think I will have to give it a try.

Btw: I voted for emacs since I haven't used vi long enough to decide which one to use.
 

sciencewhiz

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I learned vim after I realized that emacs windows port sucked, and vims worked very well. I really like being able to use the same program across platforms.
 

CTho9305

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: sharq
Should also have an option in the poll for "Both"

NO. It's one or the other. You cannot mix and match ideologies like you are at a buffet!

:p

I've been thinking about playing with nano. emacs is too complicated for me (I'm too lazy- er busy to read the docs), and vi isn't too great for general writing. Atleast for me when I'm trying to relax. Although, Oreilly (the publisher, not the airbag) uses vi, IIRC. ;)

I use both (if xemacs counts as emacs ;))... for simple edits, vi. For stuff where I want to use the mouse, or need to do things whose shortcuts I can't remember in vi (search and replace, etc), I use xemacs.
 

Sunner

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Ugh, I hate Emacs with a passion, a guy at work loves it for some unfathomable reason, I tend to tell him, all it need is a kernel and he can just boot it from a CD and skip all this *NIX stuff.

I love vi(m) though :)
 

drag

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Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
using control so much makes my pinky hurt.
You hippie pinko troll! ;) :D


Well there is one solution for the control problem I found that works great for me.

Remap the keyboard so that you change capslock and control key around on the left side. I used xmodmap, worked great when I was using a window manager called "ratposion", it is a window manager that uses the basic concepts behind the terminal multiplexer "screen" program... including the ctrl-blahblahblah key bindings. (and the little capslock key light still worked too!)

Everybody knows the capslock key sucks anyways.
 

CTho9305

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Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
using control so much makes my pinky hurt.
You hippie pinko troll! ;) :D


Well there is one solution for the control problem I found that works great for me.

Remap the keyboard so that you change capslock and control key around on the left side. I used xmodmap, worked great when I was using a window manager called "ratposion", it is a window manager that uses the basic concepts behind the terminal multiplexer "screen" program... including the ctrl-blahblahblah key bindings. (and the little capslock key light still worked too!)

Everybody knows the capslock key sucks anyways.

Yeah, at work I have three controls and no caps lock (left, right, caps lock replaced). A lot of other tools I use have bindings set up to be ctrl-key-intensive.
 

pitupepito2000

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Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
using control so much makes my pinky hurt.
You hippie pinko troll! ;) :D


Well there is one solution for the control problem I found that works great for me.

Remap the keyboard so that you change capslock and control key around on the left side. I used xmodmap, worked great when I was using a window manager called "ratposion", it is a window manager that uses the basic concepts behind the terminal multiplexer "screen" program... including the ctrl-blahblahblah key bindings. (and the little capslock key light still worked too!)

Everybody knows the capslock key sucks anyways.

I thought about posting the same thing drag, but you're still using your pinky for the cap's key.
 

drag

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Originally posted by: pitupepito2000
Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
using control so much makes my pinky hurt.
You hippie pinko troll! ;) :D


Well there is one solution for the control problem I found that works great for me.

Remap the keyboard so that you change capslock and control key around on the left side. I used xmodmap, worked great when I was using a window manager called "ratposion", it is a window manager that uses the basic concepts behind the terminal multiplexer "screen" program... including the ctrl-blahblahblah key bindings. (and the little capslock key light still worked too!)

Everybody knows the capslock key sucks anyways.

I thought about posting the same thing drag, but you're still using your pinky for the cap's key.

Well actually I don't use nothing for the caps key. It sucks. :p
W
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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Yeah, moving the control key to caps lock doesn't fix the problem. That wasn't my only problem with emacs though, just the most amusing. :p