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VGASave ain't saving me now! Can you?

maharito

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Well, looks like I've just signed into the 'You tampered with VGASave' dunce club. Yippee.

My parents' computer was having all sorts of problems earlier, so I assisted them with running Windows Repair, which fixed almost all the relevant problems. (Their network still wasn't working, but it turned out that the network card just got dislodged somehow--d'oh!)

Well, mom stirred me this morning with a problem: her windows were moving really sluggishly. Didn't take me long to recognize that the video adapter drivers must not have been installed correctly. So I just jump in and try to fix up the drivers myself. Upon examining the adapter properties, I find something called 'VGASave' instead. Messing around with it (both disabling it in the hardware profile and temporarily(?) stopping the service) didn't seem to lead to anything good. This was after a failed attempt to install the drivers on CD that I located later on...they whined that there wasn't a VGA generic display driver available for the CD drivers to build onto, or something like that. In other words, they want a device to be available to them in Device Manager, and there was none.

(Upon further inquiry, I learned that my boneheaded stepdad was running Windows Repair, encountered a screen requesting drivers from the video adapter disc, and failed to give the prompt the file location it needed. Apparently his cancelling this request screwed up Windows' creation of a display device, so none was available when I tried installing it using the CD install program. Surely, if I'd been told of his failure to get the drivers from the disc, I would've handled it then and there, but it's a little too late now...)

Well, next time I boot the computer up, I get a blank screen (but still hardware usage signal) after the Windows bootup screen. I can hear that devices are being installed or something like that, but at no point does the display come into view. I booted the computer again and heard more things, but still no luck.

This booting twice was probably my biggest mistake, because since the computer booted successfully twice in a row, Last Good Configuration was of no use to me now. Enable VGA mode also failed to make a difference.

So, I ran Windows Repair again. The Recovery Console allowed me to discover that the vgasave service was properly enabled, and all the files seemed to be in their proper places. Doing a repair on Windows, however, gave me blank screens throughout the repair process as well starting after the Windows bootup screen on the first repair step that uses the HD boot (making it essentially useless to me--I can't fly that thing blind!) If I reboot at this point and let Setup restart the repair/upgrade process, then the repair process apparently is running for several minutes before some kind of unseen prompt, but the screen never changes from the light blue 'Setup is restarting.............................' screen.

So, now I'm stuck with a Windows that can't show me anything on a relevant screen. Is my problem lying tucked away in a hardware profile I can't access? Is there another way to fix VGASave? Is there another way to install the driver so that Windows repair utilizes it automatically? CAN I SEE WINDOWS AGAIN?

(I must say that you folks have been brilliantly helpful in this entire experience I've had with you here. I was trying to install a Radeon 9200 VE's display drivers on Windows XP Professional, and I had installed Service Pack 1 prior to running the Repair process with a WinXP disc that lacks SP-1. This hasn't caused me problems in the past (I would just repair and install SP-1 again) but it could be related to the issue. Trying another AGP video card had no impact on the issue. Thanks again for your time.)
 
Lotta help YOU bums are!! >.<

Well, I pulled a rabbit out of my FRICKIN' hat for this. So listen up:

I used a PCI card that I had that I knew was made before Windows XP was released. (Matrox Mystique) Even though modern comps don't support older AGP cards, PCIs are nigh-timeless, it seems...

However, Windows Repair STILL wouldn't show me anything for this. After all, the PCI card's driver wasn't already installed. So what did I do? I broke down to white knuckles, and flew the damned thing BLIND!!

I don't know if all WinXP installs have exactly the same process, but after 10 years of computer experience, I seemed to have started to retain memory of my repairdude actions.

I waited for the hard drive accesses to settle down to the usual tap-tap for 30 seconds, then entered keys Escape, Return, <product key>, Return, Return, Return. Seemed to work. And the computer restarted, even though it was stuck on a blank screen.

It booted up again. This time, I could see the mouse cursor. I'm still stunned by myself. *blink*

After setting up SP-1 again and polishing loose ends, I find that I still have Vgasave disabled. And unable to be re-enabled. So, I uninstalled it! Poof! Not cooperating with me, so no use to me...

However, I don't think I'll be able to install the AGP card properly (it doesn't even register right now) until I get Vgasave back on its feet. Or something.

I'll play around with other AGP cards. But till then:

I cleaned out Vgasave, but no card but the ancient PCI card works right now or is even detected by Windows. How do I put Vgasave back? And how do I get Device Manager, Windows Repair or something else to try to install the Radeon drivers!?
 
OKAY! Apparently, Windows put Vgasave back for me after I uninstalled it. How kind. This allows me to boot using just the AGP card again! Back to square one!!

Alright, so eh, how do I get ATI to cooperate? Or how do I get Windows to install a device for this darn thing? >.<
 
LOL, well done with the blind repair install, I would have booted linux or something to back up some files then reformatted.

So you can't get the ATI drivers to install? What version? I assume you tried to remove all the other video drivers already... have you tried driver cleaners and registry cleaners? What exactly happens when you try to install?
 
Well, it seems to be a blight common to ATI drivers all around. (I also find that the GeForce FX 5200 I popped in here right now produces no different results, so I'm in a state where no new video card drivers can be installed.)

What happened, as far as I know: Goofball stepdad commandeered a Windows Repair install yesterday -> stepdad was inquired about display drivers in a prompt, which he skipped after he couldn't get the drivers off the CD properly -> no display device was present in the Display Manager, other than the hidden 'Vgaserv' non-PnP device in a different part, which is a Windows failsafe driver. Nevermind the brouhaha with the messing with Vgaserv. I managed to fix it, woohoo.

Also, when I try to install a NEW display device, I am *only* given choices for ATI, with no generic entries. (This even applies for the GeForce card!!!) These are all the Windows default drivers, and Radeon's isn't there, even before I uninstalled the drivers as you said to do. Using the ATI CD to install the drivers again makes the setup program quit, whining that it wants a default VGA device to install onto. (That is, it needs the video card Windows generic drivers installed for it, so they show up in the 'Display adapters' section of Device Manager.)

Come to think about it, a registry clean is probably in order--hardware install lists are messed-up, perhaps... Where to start??
 
Alrighty. Dawned on me after the other AGP card failed to even be detected... The Windows Repair must've asked my stepdad for chipset drivers all that time ago, not video card drivers! So I went ahead and got those and, aside from an odd installation problem I cleared up later, all is well now. Now if I can only get this computer to share the Internet properly...

Computers looking for an Internet connection source when this one is set to share, seem to not be able to get anything for most purposes. >_< Well, the weirdest thing is that they DO get access to programs like eMule and MSN Messenger, but Internet Explorer run on other (normal) computers act like there aren't other connections available, immediately trying to connect on their own (and failing).

Well, thanks for not mocking me, ever'un. If you know this other Internet connectivity problem, ah great.

Okay, Network Setup Wizard worked this time (even though I know it didn't at some earlier date). Whatever. All is well here. Cheers!
 
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