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Veterans Administration gets a new boss.

We live in a sick culture that defines emotional health particularly among men, as the absence of emotional feeling, and that is how terms like touchy-freely come to symbolize pejorative experiences real men and women must avoid at all cost. Thus, when it comes to the treatment of problems that require emotions to be understood to be solved, our culture starts far far behind the eight ball. Were I to want to push a medically valuable technique for solving the problems of PTSD, I would avoid calling them touchy-feely and focus instead on the notion that to may be great value is solving problems of stress by exposure to it's opposite, maybe 'reverse aversion therapy' or something like that, rather than 'wimps who need safe spaces' which is exactly where your cultural illness will want to take us as you can see already in the link. These people have already volunteered to expose themselves to the rigors of war and deserve better than that.
 
I'm hopeful, we'll see what happened. My VA treatment overall has been pretty good. Getting an appointment that fits my schedule can be a hassle though.
 
Why is fixing the VA such a hard problem its been a problem for this President and the two before him. We all agree it needs to be fixed, we all agree it needs better funding.
 
I don't understand why we need VA health system. Why not just give veterans Medicare?

It's a bit more specialized, and doesn't have a lot of the problems Medicare has. Mind you, it's traditionally had some of its own problems as well, but it's designed as a different system.

Having said that, I don't see any specific reason why they all couldn't be collapsed under a single healthcare system, but that goes along with a true single-payer governmental health care program.
 
Back to my earlier comment, if to fix the VA in a mostly complete fashion meant we (tax payers) all had to pay lets say around $500 per year (that number is not based on facts its just a guess) extra in taxes who wouldn't support that?
Seriously I'd bet even some of our more conservative members would be alright with that.
 
Back to my earlier comment, if to fix the VA in a mostly complete fashion meant we (tax payers) all had to pay lets say around $500 per year (that number is not based on facts its just a guess) extra in taxes who wouldn't support that?
Seriously I'd bet even some of our more conservative members would be alright with that.

If it was only a money issue, most people probably would 'for the troops', but incompetence would expand to fill the void created by decreased financial pressure. You can't fix bad management with more money.
 
We live in a sick culture that defines emotional health particularly among men, as the absence of emotional feeling, and that is how terms like touchy-freely come to symbolize pejorative experiences real men and women must avoid at all cost.
This is what's wrong with the Jedi Code.
 
Why is fixing the VA such a hard problem its been a problem for this President and the two before him. We all agree it needs to be fixed, we all agree it needs better funding.

Civil service rules. Can't do anything about civil servants who are really bad at their jobs. Ask yourself this. In the past couple of decades with all the efficiency gains we have realized from technology why has the number of employees in the federal government grown so much while virtually every other industry has done the opposite?
 
If it was only a money issue, most people probably would 'for the troops', but incompetence would expand to fill the void created by decreased financial pressure. You can't fix bad management with more money.

The VA handles injuries most hospitals have really no experience dealing with. I think its important to make sure we are putting the right people on that. As to wonder why this thing is a problem I'm sure it comes down to funding.
 
The VA handles injuries most hospitals have really no experience dealing with. I think its important to make sure we are putting the right people on that. As to wonder why this thing is a problem I'm sure it comes down to funding.

In some situations, yes. I don't have stats in front of me, but I'm willing to bet that most of what the VA handles is what every other medical provider handles (prescriptions for older people, mostly). Yes VA has tons of specialization (hence what I said in my original post) but it's not all burn wounds and missing limbs.

Funding is a part of it, but it's not all.
 
Back to my earlier comment, if to fix the VA in a mostly complete fashion meant we (tax payers) all had to pay lets say around $500 per year (that number is not based on facts its just a guess) extra in taxes who wouldn't support that?
Seriously I'd bet even some of our more conservative members would be alright with that.
I wouldn't support that. They should be in the same boat as the rest of us, then maybe they will have more vested political interest in fixing the overall health care system instead of the usual, I got mine, fvck you.
 
The VA handles injuries most hospitals have really no experience dealing with. I think its important to make sure we are putting the right people on that. As to wonder why this thing is a problem I'm sure it comes down to funding.
That's a chicken and egg problem. Most hospitals have no experience dealing with these injuries precisely because VA treats them. If these veterans would be getting treated in their communities, community doctors would get experience treating those injuries, and some private hospitals would specialize in veteran care.
 
That's a chicken and egg problem. Most hospitals have no experience dealing with these injuries precisely because VA treats them. If these veterans would be getting treated in their communities, community doctors would get experience treating those injuries, and some private hospitals would specialize in veteran care.

ok. Who goes first. 😉
 
Back to my earlier comment, if to fix the VA in a mostly complete fashion meant we (tax payers) all had to pay lets say around $500 per year (that number is not based on facts its just a guess) extra in taxes who wouldn't support that? Seriously I'd bet even some of our more conservative members would be alright with that.
Hmm, probably not.

VA spent $6.3 million on sculptures and fountains for their hospitals. Should they have?

The left's answer for everything is to throw more money at it. I get it, it makes you guys feel good because you did 'something'. Keep in mind that there is nothing stopping you from doing so. You can right a check to the IRS at anytime and send it on its way. To attain your goals, it does not require that everyone participate. Get busy writing that check.
 
I wouldn't support that. They should be in the same boat as the rest of us, then maybe they will have more vested political interest in fixing the overall health care system instead of the usual, I got mine, fvck you.

Problem is its a social compact similar to social security.
The agreement is serve x years get VA, wounded in duty get VA.
Be pretty cruel to change the agreement once someone needs it.
 
Hmm, probably not.

VA spent $6.3 million on sculptures and fountains for their hospitals. Should they have?

The left's answer for everything is to throw more money at it. I get it, it makes you guys feel good because you did 'something'. Keep in mind that there is nothing stopping you from doing so. You can right a check to the IRS at anytime and send it on its way. To attain your goals, it does not require that everyone participate. Get busy writing that check.

Then spend the extra on oversight.
So why has the VA consistently been a problem for nearly every modern President D or R?
 
I don't understand why we need VA health system. Why not just give veterans Medicare?

The main reason is that veterans tend to be dramatically over represented when it comes to specific kinds of ailments. For example what percentage of the US population is an amputee vs. what percentage of veterans?
 
Hmm, probably not.

VA spent $6.3 million on sculptures and fountains for their hospitals. Should they have?

The left's answer for everything is to throw more money at it. I get it, it makes you guys feel good because you did 'something'. Keep in mind that there is nothing stopping you from doing so. You can right a check to the IRS at anytime and send it on its way. To attain your goals, it does not require that everyone participate. Get busy writing that check.

I always love the conservative two step on these things.

'Public buildings are dumps and they suck. Private buildings are so much nicer!'

Spend money to make public buildings nicer?

'Why are you wasting money on cosmetic things? Public buildings are so wasteful. Private buildings are so much nicer!'

Always the same answer no matter what the circumstances. Shows they aren't using their brain.
 
I always love the conservative two step on these things.

'Public buildings are dumps and they suck. Private buildings are so much nicer!'

Spend money to make public buildings nicer?

'Why are you wasting money on cosmetic things? Public buildings are so wasteful. Private buildings are so much nicer!'

Always the same answer no matter what the circumstances. Shows they aren't using their brain.
Who has done this?
 
I always love the conservative two step on these things.

'Public buildings are dumps and they suck. Private buildings are so much nicer!'

Spend money to make public buildings nicer?

'Why are you wasting money on cosmetic things? Public buildings are so wasteful. Private buildings are so much nicer!'

Always the same answer no matter what the circumstances. Shows they aren't using their brain.
They use it to coordinate their feet. A properly executed two step takes some proper thinking. They just don't use it to rationally assess ideas with emotional triggers. Knee Jerk needs to be presented to the world as one two. They are afraid to know what they are feeling, which is that they have been shortchanged and cheated by life, or, as you say, public buildings. You can't help them with logic, but perhaps studies in PTSD will offer up insights into how this disease might be cured. It all comes from childhood stress, in my opinion, having been robbed of ones empathy and inborn social concern for ones community so as to steel oneself for competitive warfare where the other is seen as the enemy.

A sick culture generates sick people.
 
Hmm, probably not.

VA spent $6.3 million on sculptures and fountains for their hospitals. Should they have?

The left's answer for everything is to throw more money at it. I get it, it makes you guys feel good because you did 'something'. Keep in mind that there is nothing stopping you from doing so. You can right a check to the IRS at anytime and send it on its way. To attain your goals, it does not require that everyone participate. Get busy writing that check.

The left's answer is frequently to throw money where it matters. Many of us don't think spending millions on decorations is the best use of funds, either. The Democrats are sometimes guilty of taking a money-cures-everything approach, but please don't assume that this represents the entire range of liberal thought.

However, it's also wrong to let programs go underfunded or stagnate in the hopes that some policy change will sort everything out. That's especially true under a Republican-dominated administration that hates virtually every government program outside of the currently-serving military. You're not going to get meaningful reform from people who have little interest in sustaining programs in the first place.

The real answer: you need both funding and consistent oversight/reform of programs to make them work.
 
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