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SteveGo

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These delays and refusal to release tests or send out review copies have made me decide that my OS SSD drive will be Intel. The mods and employees at the OCZ forums are awful, they refuse to let you discuss other products and try and compare them to their own. The way they do business and their attitudes have forced me to a competitors product. Congrats OCZ.
 
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Originally posted by: SteveGo
These delays and refusal to release tests or send out review copies have made me decide that my OS SSD drive will be Intel. The mods and employees at the OCZ forums are awful, they refuse to let you discuss other products and try and compare them to their own. The way they do business and their attitudes have forced me to a competitors product. Congrats OCZ.

Yeah, they can be a bit annoying over there and very defensive when their products come into question. Their stuttering drives are the fault of everyone else. All you have to do is follow these 700 steps to get rid of the stuttering. Use partition alignment, beta steadystate software, RAM disks, purchase MFT and use a motherboard built in the last 2 weeks :) Also, you have to order special high quality SATA cables.

But, I have learned quite a bit over there and wouldn't hesitate to buy a Vertex if it turns out to be as good as they say.

 

tuan209

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they claim that the drives are in the hands of anandtech for testing. i have the corsair s128, but i may purchase this too.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: tuan209
they claim that the drives are in the hands of anandtech for testing. i have the corsair s128, but i may purchase this too.

Anandtech: please humor us forum folks a little and bench the SSD's with CrystalDiskMark in addition to whatever benches you intended to throw at them anyways.

It can't possibly hurt to run the bench and publish the results, and a few of us have convinced ourselves the data are meaningful.

edit: the part we feel is meaningful are the results from the 4KB random write test.

So please, pretty please? :cookie: in advance
 

coolVariable

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The nice thing about the OCZ SSDs (and the other SSD drives currently becoming available) is that they are pushing the price of the intel and Samsung drives down.
:)

I am pretty much sold on the intel drive but am adamant to wait until the Vertex is out which IMO will cause another price reduction.
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: coolVariable
The nice thing about the OCZ SSDs (and the other SSD drives currently becoming available) is that they are pushing the price of the intel and Samsung drives down.
:)

I am pretty much sold on the intel drive but am adamant to wait until the Vertex is out which IMO will cause another price reduction.

pretty much... It doesn't have to be GOOD, it just has to appeal to enough uneducated consumers to make the good stuff cheaper :)
 

shabby

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I've been waiting for this drive for 2 months now, the every week excuses are unbearable.
 

coolVariable

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I think I have said it before ... but it's nice when a holiday 2008 drive releases just in time for Q1 2009 ... maybe even Q2 2009 (if you ask me)
 

Denithor

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Originally posted by: taltamir
pretty much... It doesn't have to be GOOD, it just has to appeal to enough uneducated consumers to make the good stuff cheaper :)

That's my hope - $200 X25-M anyone?

I mean, it's still a lot of cash but 80GB is certainly large enough for OS + games and I can use my WD6400AAKS for storage.
 

VaultDweller

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Originally posted by: Denithor

That's my hope - $200 X25-M anyone?

I mean, it's still a lot of cash but 80GB is certainly large enough for OS + games and I can use my WD6400AAKS for storage.

It's large enough for OS, yeah, but 80 GB won't even cover my Steam games, let alone all the other games I'd like to have installed.
 

taltamir

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most games have decent loading times though, other games though... this will make NWN2 PLAYABLE...
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: VaultDweller
Originally posted by: Denithor

That's my hope - $200 X25-M anyone?

I mean, it's still a lot of cash but 80GB is certainly large enough for OS + games and I can use my WD6400AAKS for storage.

It's large enough for OS, yeah, but 80 GB won't even cover my Steam games, let alone all the other games I'd like to have installed.

Not sure about what most people think when they see these small drive capacities but I just think "yummy, I'll take four in a raid-0 config please!".

I don't care for the large capacity races they are getting into. Let them make 256GB drives, good for them, but for me I'd rather buy four 64GB drives for maybe 20% more total price than that single 256GB monolithic drive but my four drives will give me the same net capacity and 3-4x the bandwidth when put in raid-0.
 

taltamir

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interesting... low writes are all faster then reads...
time will tell if the data is real.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: taltamir
low writes are all faster then reads...

That is what a buffer cache does for you. The bench writes to the cache and presumes it has been written (flushed) to the media despite the fact it isn't (yet, flush in progress albeit slower than the cache was written to).

Reading from the same cache is just as fast as writing to it if you are reading the file you just wrote to the cache or if the file you want to read was preloaded to the cache (prefetching).

Originally posted by: taltamir
time will tell if the data is real.

For all that sequential read/write benches are worth they could be real and still largely irrelevant to the consumer-level concerns at hand.

OCZ knows that random read/write bandwidth is the rate-limiting aspect of this technology when it comes to consumer perception of system speediness and zip (because their customers keep telling them this), and yet they continue to ignore any benchmark program that would measure random read/write bandwidth.

Me thinks this is being done for a reason...
 

coolVariable

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Originally posted by: Idontcare

For all that sequential read/write benches are worth they could be real and still largely irrelevant to the consumer-level concerns at hand.

OCZ knows that random read/write bandwidth is the rate-limiting aspect of this technology when it comes to consumer perception of system speediness and zip (because their customers keep telling them this), and yet they continue to ignore any benchmark program that would measure random read/write bandwidth.

Me thinks this is being done for a reason...

Me too