verryify this winchester core 3500+ stepping

[gcxbrian]

i cant get past 2.6 without rasiing voltage to like 1.6 and i dun wanan do that since its to high for me is it my steppign thats holding me back? or is it my suxors ram?

 

[imported_llama]

maybe the ram, try a high clock async

 

[gcxbrian]

so this stepping has good oc potential? i want to hear form peopel who have same as me

 

[UzairH]

Yeah... I'm interested in this stepping too... have week 4 to 6 Winnies available in local shops. Are these Winchesters from early 2005 weeks any good for OC'ing?

 

[InlineFive]

Apparently the CBBID stepping has a memory controller which can't go beyond a 240Mhz FSB. This makes the CBBIDs the worst overclockers in the Winchester family.

 

[thanatos355]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Apparently the CBBID stepping has a memory controller which can't go beyond a 240Mhz FSB. This makes the CBBIDs the worst overclockers in the Winchester family.

my cbbid goes up to 267 without issue. it'll go to 289 without a problem, but i cant track down what's keeping it from being stable. it will NOT do 300 for some reason. dont know if it's the proc or the nf4 chip.

 

[Melchior]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Apparently the CBBID stepping has a memory controller which can't go beyond a 240Mhz FSB. This makes the CBBIDs the worst overclockers in the Winchester family.

No way. I have a CBBID 3000+ and it goes to 267 stable.

 

[Mucker]

What week? I think he may have meant 05 weeks 4-6. I have a 0505 but don't know the upper end yet....

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[benrico]

I dont think its a fsb issue as much as a clock speed one, if I turn my multiplier down mine goes to at least 300, maybe more. 0503.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Mmm. I've got a few CBBIDs...

 

[thanatos355]

Originally posted by: benrico
I dont think its a fsb issue as much as a clock speed one, if I turn my multiplier down mine goes to at least 300, maybe more. 0503.

even if i lower the multi to 8 on mine, i still cant oc higher. which is why i think it's the a: mem controller, or b: the nf4 chip. maybe i need to up the juice to the nf4 and see if that helps. i am a bit concerned about running 1.8 to it though.

 

[gcxbrian]

i can go over 240 with a lower multiplier. if i add mroe voltage to chipset i can get more oc? w/e this steppgin sux omfg.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Apparently the CBBID stepping has a memory controller which can't go beyond a 240Mhz FSB. This makes the CBBIDs the worst overclockers in the Winchester family.

Mine has issues at anything over 240 as well..

2 MOBO's

2 PSU's

different ram as well..

Voltage doesn't do it either..


OP: You should be THRILLED with 2.6 out of that chip.

Hell, I am at 2160 and would be thrilled with 2.4ghz!

 

[n7]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1560719&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1563294&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1559776&enterthread=y

Why do you insist on making new topics on this every day? :disgust:

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Apparently the CBBID stepping has a memory controller which can't go beyond a 240Mhz FSB. This makes the CBBIDs the worst overclockers in the Winchester family.

wow what a total moron !! first of all CBBID is not a stepping, it's part of a production series code. [moron pwned]
Second, I have CBBID winchester which can go up to 267 FSB and heard of many others that can do even more. Stop blabberring like a fool and dispensing incorrect information which confuses everyone. This kind of comments is exactly why people can't trust anything which they read here, cause too many morons just say any idiotic thing they deduce based on their own stupidity.

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: gcxbrian
i cant get past 2.6 without rasiing voltage to like 1.6 and i dun wanan do that since its to high for me is it my steppign thats holding me back? or is it my suxors ram?

2.6 ghz on 1.6 V is GREAT. And why is 1.6 too high for you ? is it shooting lights at you or something ? if the CPU is not going above 60C and your case temp is reasonable then you are totally fine . If you don't know, winchester is rated to safely operate up to 70C........ And by the way "too high for me" is not a reason that a normal thinking adult would use..... If you have a real reason you should say it.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: user1234

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Apparently the CBBID stepping has a memory controller which can't go beyond a 240Mhz FSB. This makes the CBBIDs the worst overclockers in the Winchester family.

wow what a total moron !! first of all CBBID is not a stepping, it's part of a production series code. [moron pwned]
Second, I have CBBID winchester which can go up to 267 FSB and heard of many others that can do even more. Stop blabberring like a fool and dispensing incorrect information which confuses everyone. This kind of comments is exactly why people can't trust anything which they read here, cause too many morons just say any idiotic thing they deduce based on their own stupidity.

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about as well. The name calling doesn't typically help either.

Which information is incorrect?

I have now went through 2 CBBID steppings that could not do over 240FSB x9,(3xHTT) there are many others that have not been able to as well.

If CBBID 0505 is not a stepping, what do you consider one to be?

Granted you go to 267, and a few others have as well, CBBID in GENERAL!!!! - Sucks.

 

[user1234]

ummm....open up cpu-z (hope you heard about it, if not you're in the wrong place) and you'll see the stepping.


CBBID 0504 is a pruction series code which identifes the date and location of production

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: user1234
ummm....open up cpu-z (hope you heard about it, if not you're in the wrong place) and you'll see the stepping.


CBBID 0504 is a pruction series code which identifes the date and location of production

So you considered the core name (D) Winchester - (E) Venice the actual stepping?




Obviously that's the revision of the current CORE..

Anyone looking for a stepping will provide you with info similar to CBBHD/ID/FD 0447 or there about//

I have never seen someone on here get a response to what's a good stepping??

Answer: D0

:Q

 

[user1234]

Yes, Venice is a new stepping (aka core revision) - see the TITLE of this article

http://neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rid=91534

According to yours there are HUNDREDS of different steppings !?!?! unfortunately AMD and fab technology does not concur with your wild theories, no matter what some clueless people call their production code.

Funny that you don't want to believe what CPU-Z and professional articles say about what it a stepping. This is how AMD defines it, but feel free to over rule them and stick with your definition of stepping, as you must know better.....

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: user1234
Yes, Venice is a new stepping (aka core revision) - see the TITLE of this article

http://neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rid=91534

According to yours there are HUNDREDS of different steppings !?!?! unfortunately AMD and fab technology does not concur with your wild theories, no matter what some clueless people call their production code.

Maybe you have a different opinion on the difference between Core revision and stepping.

D0 / E3 are "steppings' but basically just the core revision.

Ask anyone on the forums, and when talking about a current stepping, you will not receive the answer E3.



It may end up being,

Winchester Core (D0)
CBBID 05/06


If I asked the OP what his stepping was and he said D0, would it help you in any way?

 

[user1234]

just to LET YOU KNOW that CBBID 0504 is not called a stepping code by the people who manufacture the CPU. It's a production series '


it's simple: a stepping is a revision of the manufacturing process. it IS NOT something like "hey next week we'll call it a new stepping!!!"

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: user1234
just to LET YOU KNOW that CBBID 0504 is not called a stepping code by the people who manufacture the CPU. It's a production series '


it's simple: a stepping is a revision of the manufacturing process. it IS NOT something like "hey next week we'll call it a new stepping!!!"

"hey next week we'll call it a new stepping!!!

Who said thaT?

It really is pretty easy, a revision of the manufactoring process, or the current CORE.

If you are trying to determine OVERCLOCKING or get some sort of vague idea, the "stepping" would be related to CDDID 0XXX code.

 

[user1234]

yeah CBBID XXXX is important to gauge overclocking potetnital but IT IS NOT CALLED STEPPING. UNDERSTAND ?????


btw, how much do you offer for my Winchester 3000+ that can do 9x267=2400 on 1.57V (stable for 24 hours running prime-95 and simoultaneously 3dmark05/03/01) ?

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: user1234
yeah CBBID XXXX is important to gauge overclocking potetnital but IT IS NOT CALLED STEPPING. UNDERSTAND ?????


btw, how much do you offer for my Winchester 3000+ that can do 9x267=2400 on 1.57V (stable for 24 hours running prime-95 and simoultaneously 3dmark05/03/01) ?

Meh,

1.57@ 2.4

I'll wait for Venice ...