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The industry monitors files and it is simple enough to DL the file and get all the IP addresses. They send the ISP's the IP addresses with a complaint. The ISP then warns the customer.

Simple and probably pretty automated.

VPN just turns whoever provides the VPN into the ISP. if they are a commercial VPN, they risk having issues with their bandwidth providers. If it is a "private" network, then you are installing and connecting to networks run by pirates. If you need to jump through huge hoops to DL copyrighted materials, the average person will stop.

Michael
 
RockinZ28 said:
K, what's the deal with this VPN stuff? Never even looked into it.
Signed up for this ProXPN site. Seems pretty cool, super simple.

I have Verizon FIOS. My other option is TWC lol. I like to download episodes of TV shows cause I despise commercials. I don't use torrents though, use http file sharing sites.
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If you use a VPN, you're trusting your data to a single private entity. You want something that's outside of the USA, and has zero-minimal logging.
 
lxskllr said:
If you use a VPN, you're trusting your data to a single private entity. You want something that's outside of the USA, and has zero-minimal logging.
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Hmm, ok.

I tried the paid account at ProXPN, and already cancelled for a refund. Even using the Los Angeles server, my down speed is cut from 86mbps, to ~30mbps max. And it's not constant, often dipping to 8mbps. Using other servers it just goes down even more the further it gets from my location, like a UK server is 2mbps max.

Is this going to be inherent to any VPN service cause of the encryption and additional hops etc? Especially ones hosted in other countries? Is it safe to use a company based in another country, but they provide routing through US servers?
 
RockinZ28 said:
Hmm, ok.

I tried the paid account at ProXPN, and already cancelled for a refund. Even using the Los Angeles server, my down speed is cut from 86mbps, to ~30mbps max. And it's not constant, often dipping to 8mbps. Using other servers it just goes down even more the further it gets from my location, like a UK server is 2mbps max.

Is this going to be inherent to any VPN service cause of the encryption and additional hops etc? Especially ones hosted in other countries? Is it safe to use a company based in another country, but they provide routing through US servers?
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I don't use a vpn as of yet, but I would expect some kind of slowdown. Service quality is probably variable, with the better services having less slowness. Having the same speed as you get directly shouldn't be expected though. You're trading raw speed for security.

Without really knowing anything, I'd look at Switzerland for a vpn location. They have pretty good privacy laws. As far as logging goes, you have to take their word for it, and they have to comply with their local laws. No logs means nothing to give if someone asks/demands. I'd search around for "torrent vpn reviews", and other combinations of words to see what other people think.
 
lxskllr said:
I don't use a vpn as of yet, but I would expect some kind of slowdown. Service quality is probably variable, with the better services having less slowness. Having the same speed as you get directly shouldn't be expected though. You're trading raw speed for security.

Without really knowing anything, I'd look at Switzerland for a vpn location. They have pretty good privacy laws. As far as logging goes, you have to take their word for it, and they have to comply with their local laws. No logs means nothing to give if someone asks/demands. I'd search around for "torrent vpn reviews", and other combinations of words to see what other people think.
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Alright, well I'll just continue what I'm doing for now, see if I get a "strike".

I got a couple cease and desist notifications from Charter years ago when I used torrents, when I switched to http never heard anything again. It was cause with torrents I was uploading or sharing with others, http I don't share shit.
 
the only thing i even DL anymore is anime, which still sits in the gray area when its unlicensed in this country. will get annoyed if i get dinged for it
 
Roadrunner can suck my dick. I'll torrent whatever the hell I want!
And Verizon can suck it too. I'll tether and torrent whatever I want.

Long live the piratebay
 
HeXen said:
What if you use a torrent to get legal stuff? can they differentiate?
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None of this is anything new. The only change is there's an official protocol to handle things now. You join a swarm to download Popular_Movie_Of_The_Week.mp4, and someone policing for the media companies sees you, and logs your ip address. They send that information to your isp, and they in turn send you a nastygram. After several nastygrams, they get nastier.

IOW, they aren't monitoring for bittorrent traffic specifically, and if no one complains, you don't get natygrams.
 
kyrax12 said:
With the economy the way it is, ISPs will go to war with their customers.
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Most people have no idea how to pirate a movie, that's a fact. Poll the average adult, they don't know. Those who do are sucking down disproportionate bandwidth, so if these ISPs piss off those minority enough that they leave (unlikely) it works to the ISP's benefit anyway.
 
Doppel said:
Most people have no idea how to pirate a movie, that's a fact. Poll the average adult, they don't know. Those who do are sucking down disproportionate bandwidth, so if these ISPs piss off those minority enough that they leave (unlikely) it works to the ISP's benefit anyway.
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no, even my mother who is over 50yrs is PC stupid and she can google a movie name. Giant messages on some sites mentioning Bitorrent and she quickly figured it out and downloaded her Dexter show cause we don't have HBO or whatever it's on.

This is exactly what she googled.
dexter season 6 download
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just google that and tell me how you can say the average adult doesn't know, even stupid people know how to search.
If they see words like torrent then you just freakin google "torrent" and its all right there

It's way, way to easy to search for whatever you want and tons of instructions on how to do anything, especially pirate.
 
true, but that's whats good about it (in a way). it's easier to get stuff via piracy than legally.

pirating on consoles gives you advantages too. running games of big external drives etc.

if they wanted to fight piracy they'd make the legit version easily available when you want/where you want and give you the same pluses of pirating (minus being free of course).
 
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