verizon phone, choices lol

[Bman123]

4g is in my area and everywhere i go and its stupid fast, like over 12mbps fast, max I saw was 23mbps. I use a incredible 1 now and I want more performance.3g is normally 1-1.6 mbps in my area, which is very good. I ship my incredible back sometime today and by the end of the week I can use my upgrade.

If you were to get a new VZW phone now and keep it for 2 years what would you get and why?
My incredible is fast but its old tech and I can't see going two years on this phone. I don't have to get a 4g phone but why not ya know, my coverage is awesome and lte is super fast

 

[ImDonly1]

I think there are only 3 LTE phones out right now. The thunderbolt, charge, and revolution.

HTC Thunderbolt is old, single-core and bad battery life.
Samsung Charge is AMOLED, single-core and I think good battery life.
I don't know anything about the LG Revolution.

So I say charge, unless the revolution is better. Not sure if any newer phones are coming, droid bionic?
I'd wait for something dual-core, LTE, and good battery life.

 

[shortylickens]

Incidentally, all 3 of them are cheap on Amazon right now.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

unfortunately there arent any good 4g phone out right now. the single core giga hertz chips arent fast enough for the 4g network. i live in sf where weve had 4g for 6 months and even though 4g speeds are awesome, the 4g phones dont render pages any faster than my droid x. they need much higher clock speeds and more cores

 

[shortylickens]

unfortunately there arent any good 4g phone out right now. the single core giga-hertz chips arent fast enough for the 4g network.

Well thats just plain wrong but whatever.

The bandwidth of 4g is around 15mbits and the bandwidth of a single core high end smartphone like the Thunderbolt is up in the high Gbits. It is MORE than fast enough to use fully saturated cellular data and do something else in the background. The problem comes from all the crap normally running in the background on a default phone. You can kill those things, or root the phone and get back your resources.
Or get a Playbook with an OS that properly prioritizes tasks. But the Playbook kinda sucks for apps right now.

In any case, the hardware is NOT the bottleneck these days. Its the lack of quality software or the over-abundance of shit software.

 

[Pliablemoose]

unfortunately there arent any good 4g phone out right now. the single core giga hertz chips arent fast enough for the 4g network. i live in sf where weve had 4g for 6 months and even though 4g speeds are awesome, the 4g phones dont render pages any faster than my droid x. they need much higher clock speeds and more cores

Really?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NuAEa-inls

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Really?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NuAEa-inls

okay, a little faster, some of the time, but not anywhere near like 10 times faster the way you might expect based on how much faster lte is than 3g. im suspicious of that video anyway. you notice they turn the lights out in the background so you cant even verify what phones they are using. you notice also that the narrator in that video always declares the thunderbolt to be the winner and then scrolls down on it to show the rest of the page, as if he wouldnt be able to do that on the phone he is claiming is the droid x. the progess bars are almost tied

 

[zerocool84]

okay, a little faster, some of the time, but not anywhere near like 10 times faster the way you might expect based on how much faster lte is than 3g. im suspicious of that video anyway. you notice they turn the lights out in the background so you cant even verify what phones they are using

Lol it's one big conspiracy

 

[Pliablemoose]

okay, a little faster, some of the time, but not anywhere near like 10 times faster the way you might expect based on how much faster lte is than 3g. im suspicious of that video anyway. you notice they turn the lights out in the background so you cant even verify what phones they are using

So we've established you're wrong and you don't know what you're talking about.

And that it's all a conspiracy. :whiste:

I was in a Verizon store on launch day looking for iPads, and tried out the ThunderBolt, I bought it on the spot, and I have an EVO on Sprint... The Thunderbolt is 3X as fast as the EVO on a bad day... Browsing is quicker, and tethering is like sharing a fast cable internet signal.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

So we've established you're wrong and you don't know what you're talking about.

And that it's all a conspiracy. :whiste:

I was in a Verizon store on launch day looking for iPads, and tried out the ThunderBolt, I bought it on the spot, and I have an EVO on Sprint... The Thunderbolt is 3X as fast as the EVO on a bad day... Browsing is quicker, and tethering is like sharing a fast cable internet signal.

no we established that id be 95% right 95% of the time which makes you 100% wrong 95% of the time.

i compared my 3g droid x to thunderbolt in downtown sf several times and most of the time it was mostly a toss up. there were some things like video that were faster, but regular web browsing usually wasnt, at least by very much

 

[Pliablemoose]

no we established that id be 95% right 95% of the time which makes you 100% wrong 95% of the time.

i compared my 3g droid x to thunderbolt in downtown sf several times and most of the time it was mostly a toss up. there were some things like video that were faster, but regular web browsing usually wasnt, at least by very much

I'm glad your Droid X is so fast, might I suggest you send it to Motorola so they can study it? Seems you have the only phone they made that's faster on 3G than any other Droid X ever made.

You've got something pretty special there...

 

[ImDonly1]

So no one else has phone recommendations for the OP?

 

[poofyhairguy]

I would wait for the X2.

 

[zerocool84]

I would wait for the X2.

The Droid X2 doesn't have LTE. Right now the best LTE phone is the Charge.

 

[Pliablemoose]

So no one else has phone recommendations for the OP?

The Charge and the ThunderBolt are the top two, the HDMI out on the Charge would be nice if you wanted to use it for streaming video, or using it as a mini computer...

The problem is, that obviously the 2nd gen LTE phones will be better, but the unlimited data may be going away...

 

[Bateluer]

So no one else has phone recommendations for the OP?

If he's going to buy now, then the Thunderbolt is the best option. The Charge is a more powerful device, but of a much lower build quality. Its a typical Samsung phone, ultra cheap plastic. It won't last the length of your contract without covering it in a case.

The Revolution is powered by the same 2nd Gen Snapdragon and Adreno 205 in the Thunderbolt, but I've haven't read much about it.

 

[bonkers325]

thunderbolt has the most developer support at the moment, but its a pig with battery life. you'll need an extended battery or additional wall chargers to keep it alive throughout the day.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

I'm glad your Droid X is so fast, might I suggest you send it to Motorola so they can study it? Seems you have the only phone they made that's faster on 3G than any other Droid X ever made.

You've got something pretty special there...

lte is 10x faster than 3g, but thunderbolt doesnt render pages anywhere near that fast. even in that phony video its maybe twice as fast--->current single core chips arent fast enough for lte--->for most people it makes more sense to wait for higher clocked dual core chips

 

[Pliablemoose]

lte is 10x faster than 3g, but thunderbolt doesnt render pages anywhere near that fast. even in that phony video its maybe twice as fast--->current single core chips arent fast enough for lte--->for most people it makes more sense to wait for higher clocked dual core chips

Here's the thing, by the time software is optimized for dual core CPU's the phone's life will be 1/2 over, also, the other question is what do you do with that kind of speed?

Tether and stream videos, and the ThunderBolt does both quite well.

Do me a favor and run SpeedTest and tell me what your ping times are, and then tell me why they're important to your browsing experience.

You're literally comparing apples to oranges, and your ignorance is showing.

Here's a tethered SpeedTest from a minute ago.

 

[Bateluer]

thunderbolt has the most developer support at the moment, but its a pig with battery life. you'll need an extended battery or additional wall chargers to keep it alive throughout the day.

No, you won't.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Here's the thing, by the time software is optimized for dual core CPU's the phone's life will be 1/2 over, also, the other question is what do you do with that kind of speed?

Tether and stream videos, and the ThunderBolt does both quite well.

Do me a favor and run SpeedTest and tell me what your ping times are, and then tell me why they're important to your browsing experience.

You're literally comparing apples to oranges, and your ignorance is showing.

Here's a tethered SpeedTest from a minute ago.

we need higher clockspeeds more than multiple cores

can you get free unlimited tethering just by buying the phone at retail price without signing a contract?

i cant do speedtest since i dont use a google account but im not sure what your point is, 4g has lower ping times, it should be even faster than 3g at regular browsing but stiill isnt on thunderbolt

 

[Pliablemoose]

we need higher clockspeeds more than multiple cores

can you get free unlimited tethering just by buying the phone at retail price without signing a contract?

i cant do speedtest since i dont use a google account but im not sure what your point is, 4g has lower ping times, it should be even faster than 3g at regular browsing but stiill isnt on thunderbolt

All I can say is you're lucky there's a zero tolerance policy in this forum.

 

[Bateluer]

i cant do speedtest since i dont use a google account but im not sure what your point is, 4g has lower ping times, it should be even faster than 3g at regular browsing but stiill isnt on thunderbolt

What does running a Speedtest have to do with a Google account? I'm pretty sure there's an iOS app in addition to the desktop and Android apps. Install, tap the Test button, report the results.

And I can personally say that browsing on the Thunderbolt vs 3G and 4G, the difference is very noticeable. While I'm sure the single core SoC is holding it back a little, the TB still ranks pretty high on most benchmarks.