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Verbatim DVD/R-+ FOR 149.99 (RETAIL)

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defref,
No, actually it wasn't and if you knew how to use google I wouldn't have to try and explain it every time a "hot dual format deal" pops up to save you people money. Single format drives are capable of bitsetting/booktype setting. That is a part of the disc that a player reads before anything else to determine whether or not it can play it. If it is an older or unsupportive player and sees a format it doesn't understand (i.e. dvd+r) - it simply fails to play the disc even though physically, the player can read the disc just fine. So to get past that step, single format drives can set the booktype to dvd-rom instead of dvd+r/-r to trick the player into playing it perfectly. Dual format drives are not capable of this. So in effect, going dual format is somewhat silly because:

a. You probably won't use both formats
b. You think you're purchasing something more compatible and future proof and it is actually the opposite.
c. even if you did use both formats, how silly is it that you may have to burn two types to achieve compatibility in two different players, one that is only dvd-r friendly, and one that is only dvd+r friendly

My personal experience has affirmed this. Of the 5-6 players that I tested, including the ps2, x-box, dvd-roms, and several brands of set tops, only the booktyping drive produced a result that was 100% compatible. Burn method was not a limiting factor.
 
Boy, you're a a sanctimonious snot, aren't you? You COULD have simply said, "Be careful. Dual-format drives can't perform the crucial bitsetting step that maximizes DVD player compatibility. It'd be better to choose a [whatever format] burner.", instead of being all Nelson Muntz crossed with Cliff Clavin.

Searching around finds forum posts referring to tools that can do bitsetting and booktyping, but they seem to be discussions amongst people like you who already known about this stuff. Darn little "n00bs Guide To DVD Burning" stuff showed up in the quick look I took and you certainly didn't offer anything, now did you?

Sorry that us po' schlubs are living in a fog of ignorance, but then again, how else can you feel all superior if you enlighten us and give away your edge over us?
 
Originally posted by: FitzRoy
defref,
No, actually it wasn't and if you knew how to use google I wouldn't have to try and explain it every time a "hot dual format deal" pops up to save you people money. Single format drives are capable of bitsetting/booktype setting. That is a part of the disc that a player reads before anything else to determine whether or not it can play it. If it is an older or unsupportive player and sees a format it doesn't understand (i.e. dvd+r) - it simply fails to play the disc even though physically, the player can read the disc just fine. So to get past that step, single format drives can set the booktype to dvd-rom instead of dvd+r/-r to trick the player into playing it perfectly. Dual format drives are not capable of this. So in effect, going dual format is somewhat silly because:

a. You probably won't use both formats
b. You think you're purchasing something more compatible and future proof and it is actually the opposite.
c. even if you did use both formats, how silly is it that you may have to burn two types to achieve compatibility in two different players, one that is only dvd-r friendly, and one that is only dvd+r friendly

My personal experience has affirmed this. Of the 5-6 players that I tested, including the ps2, x-box, dvd-roms, and several brands of set tops, only the booktyping drive produced a result that was 100% compatible. Burn method was not a limiting factor.

The only drive you can change the book type setting to DVD-Rom is the older Ricoh +R drives.

 
Originally posted by: soundforbjt
Originally posted by: FitzRoy
defref,
No, actually it wasn't and if you knew how to use google I wouldn't have to try and explain it every time a "hot dual format deal" pops up to save you people money. Single format drives are capable of bitsetting/booktype setting. That is a part of the disc that a player reads before anything else to determine whether or not it can play it. If it is an older or unsupportive player and sees a format it doesn't understand (i.e. dvd+r) - it simply fails to play the disc even though physically, the player can read the disc just fine. So to get past that step, single format drives can set the booktype to dvd-rom instead of dvd+r/-r to trick the player into playing it perfectly. Dual format drives are not capable of this. So in effect, going dual format is somewhat silly because:

a. You probably won't use both formats
b. You think you're purchasing something more compatible and future proof and it is actually the opposite.
c. even if you did use both formats, how silly is it that you may have to burn two types to achieve compatibility in two different players, one that is only dvd-r friendly, and one that is only dvd+r friendly

My personal experience has affirmed this. Of the 5-6 players that I tested, including the ps2, x-box, dvd-roms, and several brands of set tops, only the booktyping drive produced a result that was 100% compatible. Burn method was not a limiting factor.

The only drive you can change the book type setting to DVD-Rom is the older Ricoh +R drives.

As far as I know, all nec dvd+r based drives (cendyne, verbatim, HP, dell oem, etc.) automatically set the booktype to dvd-rom upon burning. +RW on the other hand, requires flashing a certain HP firmware to the drive before you can change it.
 
Still don't know if this was a good deal or not, considering someone still refuses to offer a recommendation other than, "Don't buy a dual!" OK, what should we be buying? Format, band, whatever? Enlighten us, o wise sage!
 
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