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Venus 12 vs XP-90

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Yes and I can't believe this guy is arguing against you...lol.
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lol, assumptions.
just because you dont know me doesnt mean I know nothing.

Dont you just love heated debates!


How hard is it to understand that an electronic device can NOT be colder than the ambient air when that air is being used to cool it. It's just not possible.
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I have done advanced maths and physics and yes I understand this.

However this is the point I am making: The ambient temperature is less than my case temperature and it is being blown into the case from the front and hot air is being blown out the back, over 10000 pc builds under my belt, I know what I am talking about. I design $25000 servers for a living, own and run a networking company for a living.

Also, I think Gamingphreek would prefer someone who would question him in debate rather than suck up to him because I had less than 20 posts.... Dunno. :/
 
No one is saying you know nothing but you are arguing a moot point. As i have said it is IMPOSSIBLE (Might be against the Laws of Thermodynamics, im not familiar with them so i dont know) to have a component emitting heat to be cooler than the ambient temperature.

-Kevin
 
You do know that I am agreeing with you? All I am saying is that you are not taking all the factors into consideation. Furthermore I have shown two seperate images that proove that my case and cpu temps are the same. I believe that you misread my former comments.

PS If nothing has come out of this my number of posts are rocketing up! 😉
 
Yes, and those temp readings are wrong. It is not your fault at all, and i am not calling you a liar, your temp probes are merely bad. You cannot have a temperature like that, also you said your ambient room temp is like 35C. so all your temp sensors are off as your case cannot be warmer than the room it is in.

-Kevin
 
No probs 🙂

normally 7 - 15 degrees outside, up to 20 degrees inside with home heating on, however on the middle floor I leave at least 2 windows partially open all the time for fresh air as I have a minium of 4 computers running all the time.
 
I've had both. I sold the Venus 12. Not because it didn't cool well...it did a really good job. But the thing is LOUD. At full blast it cools really well. At low settings, it cools OK. XP-90 with a 92mm quiet fan cools better than the Venus 12 set at low speeds.
 
Originally posted by: thriemus
Yes and I can't believe this guy is arguing against you...lol.
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lol, assumptions.
just because you dont know me doesnt mean I know nothing.

Dont you just love heated debates!


How hard is it to understand that an electronic device can NOT be colder than the ambient air when that air is being used to cool it. It's just not possible.
Click to expand...

I have done advanced maths and physics and yes I understand this.

However this is the point I am making: The ambient temperature is less than my case temperature and it is being blown into the case from the front and hot air is being blown out the back, over 10000 pc builds under my belt, I know what I am talking about. I design $25000 servers for a living, own and run a networking company for a living.

Also, I think Gamingphreek would prefer someone who would question him in debate rather than suck up to him because I had less than 20 posts.... Dunno. :/
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Dude...

Windchill doesn't really apply to non-warm blooded things, it's a measure of the heat loss equivalent.

Meaning, a wind-chill calculation of 15c in a room with ambient of 20c does NOT mean you can cool the CPU any lower than 20c. 20c is 20c real temp. Wind chill temp is a risk-factor pseudo temp used to judge exposure of people to the elements, not object cooling.

One thing you need to know is that wind chill does not effect inanimate objects the same way it effects a person. With a wind chill of say -10 a person will feel that cold. All it will do to an inanimate object is allow it to cool faster. The object will only cool to the ambient temp however.

The airflow or speed of it is more important in heat dissipation which once again helps cool the object down faster to that ambient temperature. Not windchill.....wrong choice of words for objects that do not care about the perception or sensation of a temperature....just real temps....


windchill is just a determination of how cold "it seems" in the wind....it has nothing to do with an actual decrease in the temperature of the air...there are 2 (major) things that determine the cooling ability of air:

1) the mass flow rate of the air
2) the temperature of the incoming air charge mass
 
Venus 12 isn't that great. I had to stick a tornado on it to get decent cooling. XP-90 much better.

heh. 30C room temps? I get about 18C in my basement, year round. Case temps are around 24C load. Helps keep down everything in the chassis.
 
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
Venus 12 isn't that great. I had to stick a tornado on it to get decent cooling. XP-90 much better.

heh. 30C room temps? I get about 18C in my basement, year round. Case temps are around 24C load. Helps keep down everything in the chassis.
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I would agree...I say get a K8 silent cooler and it damns near cools as effectively with hardly any noise....

TT = sucks in about every product they make...I have about officially now (for some unknown reason I dont learn my lesson) owned a TT hsf fro every socket I have had since 2001...every time I have been disappointed an usually get rid of it short time later for something that turns out to be sooooo much damn better.....
 
my brother made the mistake of buying a silent boost for his mobile 2600. had to stick the smart fan that came with the venus 12 on there to get any decent cooling out of it. I've also noticed that the contact plate on my venus 12 was rather rough. after Lapping it to 1500 grit, temps decreased by about 3C.
 
I sure that wasn't the silent K8 though....It is a fine cooler with cooper core versus the aluminum core you could get stock with a retail 3000+ winnie.....

Porbably the best of both world...I thermally controlled adjustable fan of the TT veus 12 with the superior hs block....However the fan is too loud IMO for the rpm (3400) I run at versus the cooling even the stock opteron cooler I borrowed and had on here first....TT is junk IMO.....
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
Venus 12 isn't that great. I had to stick a tornado on it to get decent cooling. XP-90 much better.

heh. 30C room temps? I get about 18C in my basement, year round. Case temps are around 24C load. Helps keep down everything in the chassis.
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I would agree...I say get a K8 silent cooler and it damns near cools as effectively with hardly any noise....

TT = sucks in about every product they make...I have about officially now (for some unknown reason I dont learn my lesson) owned a TT hsf fro every socket I have had since 2001...every time I have been disappointed an usually get rid of it short time later for something that turns out to be sooooo much damn better.....
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Did you also buy a Dragon Orb w/ a 7K RPM fan lol? I did....😀
 
LOL. Tornados are about as loud as you can get, IMHO. Sounds like a blow dryer at arms-length away from your head. I could hear my comp (which is in the basement), up the stairs, and in the kitchen (about 8 feet from the stair enterence).
 
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