Venezuelan inflation rate nearing 100%.

DucatiMonster696

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Anyone willing to make a prediction on how high inflation in the "Workers Paradise" will go by the end of the year? Some financial experts and institutions are predicting it'll top out at 200% by the end of the year. If it does then the likelihood of debt default and currency collapse is going to be high. Only time will tell it seems as the inept, inefficient and wholly corrupt Marxist lead Venezuelan government digs its hole deeper and deeper with each decree issued by Maduro and the gang.


Venezuelan currency tanks; inflation seen near 100%

Venezuela's black market exchange rate weakened below a key level on Thursday, as the bolivar's decline steepened in the face of hyperinflation and a rapidly shrinking economy.

The unofficial exchange rate for the bolivar has fallen sharply in recent weeks, so that on Thursday, one dollar would get you 300.72 bolivars, according to widely used rate-tracking website dolartoday.com.

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Over the past couple of years the value of the currency has plummeted against the dollar to its present 300 bolivar level. In 2012, a dollar would get you 10 bolivars, according to unofficial exchange rates. By the time President Nicolas Maduro was inaugurated in April 2013, it was 24 bolivars to the dollar and by this January it was at 173.
This black market rate of 300.72 on Thursday was almost 50 times the official rate set by Venezuela's hard-line socialist government of 6.3 bolivars to the dollar.

The oil-reliant Latin American country is suffocating under a highly interventionist government, led by Hugo Chavez's successor, Nicolas Maduro, rocketing hyperinflation and the tumble in oil prices since June last year.

The International Monetary Fund sees Venezuela's economy shrinking 7 percent in 2015, with prices rising by a staggering 96.8 percent.

Venezuela's black market exchange rate weakened below a key level on Thursday, as the bolivar's decline steepened in the face of hyperinflation and a rapidly shrinking economy.

The unofficial exchange rate for the bolivar has fallen sharply in recent weeks, so that on Thursday, one dollar would get you 300.72 bolivars, according to widely used rate-tracking website dolartoday.com.


Over the past couple of years the value of the currency has plummeted against the dollar to its present 300 bolivar level. In 2012, a dollar would get you 10 bolivars, according to unofficial exchange rates. By the time President Nicolas Maduro was inaugurated in April 2013, it was 24 bolivars to the dollar and by this January it was at 173.
This black market rate of 300.72 on Thursday was almost 50 times the official rate set by Venezuela's hard-line socialist government of 6.3 bolivars to the dollar.

The oil-reliant Latin American country is suffocating under a highly interventionist government, led by Hugo Chavez's successor, Nicolas Maduro, rocketing hyperinflation and the tumble in oil prices since June last year.

The International Monetary Fund sees Venezuela's economy shrinking 7 percent in 2015, with prices rising by a staggering 96.8 percent.


The country's economy is highly reliant on oil, which accounts for around 95 percent of its exports, according to the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), of which Venezuela was a founding member. The broader oil and gas sector constitutes roughly one-quarter of Venezuela gross domestic product (GDP).


Both Moody's Investors Service and Standard & Poor's have cut Venezuela's credit rating deeper into speculative territory this year.

"We see default risk stemming from the collapse in oil prices," BBH analysts led by Marc Chandler warned in a research note earlier this week, with the caveat that this prospect had abated somewhat since the partial recovery in energy prices.

Nonetheless, the spread on five-year credit default swaps (CDS)—which markets use to judge how likely an issuer is to default—for Venezuela rose by 0.3 percent on Wednesday, according to Markit data. In percentage terms, this was the joint-worst deterioration of any country, along with Mexico and Peru.

Despite his fears, BBH's Chandler said that Venezuela was more likely to officially devalue the bolivar than default.

"It is true that Venezuela has a relative extreme macroeconomic situation," the analyst said in a note last week. "We suspect that when push comes to shove, and it will, Venezuela is more likely to officially devalue than default on its local debt."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102678399
 

brycejones

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Yes, Venezuela is an unmitigated disaster because of policies that no one in the mainstream of American politics has proposed.
 

glenn1

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Hugo Chavez reduced inequality. I'd argue the costs weren't worth it and the average Venezuelan is no better for it, but the rich got what was coming to them so there's that.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Hugo Chavez reduced inequality. I'd argue the costs weren't worth it and the average Venezuelan is no better for it, but the rich got what was coming to them so there's that.

Most people with money and enough intelligence to see what was coming left the sinking ship as Chavez and his marxist radicals started punching holes in the economy via their idiotic policies which made everyone equal in misery, save the party elites.
 

Hugo Drax

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Now look how the Caracas stock index has climbed :)

We are heading in the same direction. Hyperinflation strikes quick but you will see early warnings along the way.
 

Blanky

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Most people with money and enough intelligence to see what was coming left the sinking ship as Chavez and his marxist radicals started punching holes in the economy via their idiotic policies which made everyone equal in misery, save the party elites.
This probably isn't accurate, just because it hardly ever is. Emigrating from a country is quite an involved process, particularly for a person entwined in a business at home.

On the contrary my guess is most people who saw the writing on the wall have been forced to read yet more of it without much alternative. I suspect they feel some of the same frustration we do watching the idiot voting masses vote without a clue.

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As far as maternity leave is concerned, a person can get far more than 26 in Canada without 100% inflation, so it's really a pointless thing for people to bring up here!
 

fskimospy

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Now look how the Caracas stock index has climbed :)

We are heading in the same direction. Hyperinflation strikes quick but you will see early warnings along the way.

Are we now. Venezuela has routinely had yearly inflation of 30%+ while the U.S. has had inflation well below our target for years:
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.DEFL.KD.ZG

You would think that people being wrong about inflation in the U.S. for closing in on a decade now would either admit they were wrong or at least stop making the same wrong predictions out of embarrassment.

I mean how many more years of being wrong will it take?
 

norseamd

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Hugo Chavez reduced inequality. I'd argue the costs weren't worth it and the average Venezuelan is no better for it, but the rich got what was coming to them so there's that.

Whether he was running good or bad policies at any certain point in his dictatorship at least Hugo seems to have had his shit together and could actually run Venezuela decently well without everything imploding like a fucking black hole.
 

realibrad

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This probably isn't accurate, just because it hardly ever is. Emigrating from a country is quite an involved process, particularly for a person entwined in a business at home.

On the contrary my guess is most people who saw the writing on the wall have been forced to read yet more of it without much alternative. I suspect they feel some of the same frustration we do watching the idiot voting masses vote without a clue.

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As far as maternity leave is concerned, a person can get far more than 26 in Canada without 100% inflation, so it's really a pointless thing for people to bring up here!

There is something else the rich did, that I have seen first had. When the leaders were shoving their heads up their asses to come up with bad ideas, the rich started to funnel money outside of the country. The company I work for sells timeshare. We saw a huge influx of Venezuelan people buying our timeshare. Even today, many people use our timeshare as a way to invest money, as it can be deeded and sold. It does not hold as much value as currency, but its more protected and safe.

The rich did this with many things. You buy assets that are maintained outside of the use to transfer your wealth from Venezuelan money to assets to keep your wealth safe. Then, if you can you GTFO.
 

realibrad

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Whether he was running good or bad policies at any certain point in his dictatorship at least Hugo seems to have had his shit together and could actually run Venezuela decently well without everything imploding like a fucking black hole.

It helps when your country has oil, and sells it to everyone at a super low price as a political favor.
 

michal1980

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There is something else the rich did, that I have seen first had. When the leaders were shoving their heads up their asses to come up with bad ideas, the rich started to funnel money outside of the country. The company I work for sells timeshare. We saw a huge influx of Venezuelan people buying our timeshare. Even today, many people use our timeshare as a way to invest money, as it can be deeded and sold. It does not hold as much value as currency, but its more protected and safe.

The rich did this with many things. You buy assets that are maintained outside of the use to transfer your wealth from Venezuelan money to assets to keep your wealth safe. Then, if you can you GTFO.

Timeshares are now investments?
 

realibrad

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Timeshares are now investments?

Anything can be an investment. If your money is losing 100% of its value yearly, and say timeshare losses 1%, why would you not buy timeshare?

I should note that I actually like my company and see our product is much better than typical "timeshare". Its not the timeshare of old where you literally buy a specific date to use. Now you buy timeshare, and you get points to use. I dont vacation enough for it to make sense to me, but you can do the math to see that if someone takes a week vacation every year, it can be break even or save money depending on how you vacation. If you do a roach motel, we cant beat that.

But anyway, yes, timeshare can be an investment when it holds value better than Venezuelan money. Its pretty simple math.
 

DucatiMonster696

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This probably isn't accurate, just because it hardly ever is. Emigrating from a country is quite an involved process, particularly for a person entwined in a business at home.

On the contrary my guess is most people who saw the writing on the wall have been forced to read yet more of it without much alternative. I suspect they feel some of the same frustration we do watching the idiot voting masses vote without a clue.

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As far as maternity leave is concerned, a person can get far more than 26 in Canada without 100% inflation, so it's really a pointless thing for people to bring up here!

1.) It may be a lengthy process but it is a process the wealthy can afford to do and speed up in many cases if one is applying for political reasons (political persecution) rather than economic reasons.

2.) The maternity leave topic was not one I brought up. It was a red herring inserted into this conversation by michal1980 and used to distract from the main topic of the unmitigated disaster that is Venezuelan Marxist lead economy.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Whether he was running good or bad policies at any certain point in his dictatorship at least Hugo seems to have had his shit together and could actually run Venezuela decently well without everything imploding like a fucking black hole.

You do realize the rapid rise of inflation started under Chavez's watch?? That inflation reached 50% under his watch. All Maduro did was continue following Chavez's shitastic economic playbook.