Venezuelan edging closer toward tyranny under Chavez

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shiner

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Leon
I am sure every one of these stations were plotting coup against El Presidente. Yup, every single one of them, according to Venezuela Ministry of Truth(tm). Chavez is under attack by Yankees, Jews, Capitalists, Nazis, Illuminati and 4Chan - he needs all the help he can get :D

Leon

p.s. Ministry of Truth representative, Craig234, will be with us shortly to comment on these vile rumors.[/q]
You have proved to be quite the prophet.

 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: shiner
Originally posted by: Leon
I am sure every one of these stations were plotting coup against El Presidente. Yup, every single one of them, according to Venezuela Ministry of Truth(tm). Chavez is under attack by Yankees, Jews, Capitalists, Nazis, Illuminati and 4Chan - he needs all the help he can get :D

Leon

p.s. Ministry of Truth representative, Craig234, will be with us shortly to comment on these vile rumors.[/q]
You have proved to be quite the prophet.

In the last week I, too, have received my personal request from Craig234 not to insult him, nor to respond to his posts, lest he be mortally offended.

I don't bother to reply to rants, but in the back of my mind I imagine this is the kind of conversation which must be going on his head right before he posts or sends personal messages -

A Personal Request Not To Reply
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: yllus
From Craig234 via private message
Your post has led me to view you as a scumbag, who I ask not to read or reply to my posts. No reply is welcome - you will simply not respond in PM or the forum if you agree to the request, and I'm not interested in comment.

You may not have the balls to reply in public - again - but I can and will.

I will reply to any post I want, and since you're such a stupid, simple fool to refute - and now knowing how much it bothers you to be exposed for what you are - I will redouble my efforts to respond to your childish posts. Thanks for the PM. :)

Moreover, lol @ asking me not to reply to him. Who first replied to who in this thread? And this after being told for the second time in another thread that Craig234 will no longer look at my posts...

CAPITALISM

Originally posted by: Craig234
No, I made a serious comment that you are delusional - and that explains your post.

I did not read Yllus' post and do not plan to, as he crossed a line with the first few words.

You can either improve your own posts to be more than the idiocy you have consistently posted, or join him. I'd rather you join him, frankly, but have a thing for underdogs.

LOL, I think I've stumbled upon Craig's true identity!
 

shiner

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: yllus
From Craig234 via private message
Your post has led me to view you as a scumbag, who I ask not to read or reply to my posts. No reply is welcome - you will simply not respond in PM or the forum if you agree to the request, and I'm not interested in comment.

You may not have the balls to reply in public - again - but I can and will.

I will reply to any post I want, and since you're such a stupid, simple fool to refute - and now knowing how much it bothers you to be exposed for what you are - I will redouble my efforts to respond to your childish posts. Thanks for the PM. :)

Moreover, lol @ asking me not to reply to him. Who first replied to who in this thread? And this after being told for the second time in another thread that Craig234 will no longer look at my posts...

CAPITALISM

Originally posted by: Craig234
No, I made a serious comment that you are delusional - and that explains your post.

I did not read Yllus' post and do not plan to, as he crossed a line with the first few words.

You can either improve your own posts to be more than the idiocy you have consistently posted, or join him. I'd rather you join him, frankly, but have a thing for underdogs.

LOL, I think I've stumbled upon Craig's true identity!


DANGER! DANGER, CORN ROBINSON!
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: yllus
From Craig234 via private message
Your post has led me to view you as a scumbag, who I ask not to read or reply to my posts. No reply is welcome - you will simply not respond in PM or the forum if you agree to the request, and I'm not interested in comment.

You may not have the balls to reply in public - again - but I can and will.

I will reply to any post I want, and since you're such a stupid, simple fool to refute - and now knowing how much it bothers you to be exposed for what you are - I will redouble my efforts to respond to your childish posts. Thanks for the PM. :)

Moreover, lol @ asking me not to reply to him. Who first replied to who in this thread? And this after being told for the second time in another thread that Craig234 will no longer look at my posts...

CAPITALISM

Originally posted by: Craig234
No, I made a serious comment that you are delusional - and that explains your post.

I did not read Yllus' post and do not plan to, as he crossed a line with the first few words.

You can either improve your own posts to be more than the idiocy you have consistently posted, or join him. I'd rather you join him, frankly, but have a thing for underdogs.

LOL, I think I've stumbled upon Craig's true identity!

lmao

 

Fear No Evil

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I have yet to receive any threats from Craig via PM yet. I'm quite disapointed and feel as though I am not performing my job duties adequately.
 

shiner

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I have yet to receive any threats from Craig via PM yet. I'm quite disapointed and feel as though I am not performing my job duties adequately.

slacker
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Abolition of term limits, emergency rule by decree, silencing of opposition media, curtailing of free speech.....we all know what is going to happen here. Socialism the economic theory is at work in Venezuela, but only as a tool and/or excuse to further the Chavez cult of personality. He is an authoritarian to the bone. That is the real danger.

Government is a dictator's throne. Socialism builds that throne and a dictator could not have existed without that power. Same thing is occurring here, we're just a decade or two behind them.

Limits of power in our constitution has protected us for a long time, but it is increasingly marginalized and ignored with each new generation.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: blanghorst
From Craig234 via private message

Rather than dragging down the thread, I'll simply say that your post about irony is the irony, as you don't get a lot, and you are making idiotic insults. I'm one step from asking you not to read or reply to my posts.

If you have any chance of growing out of your limitations, I'm willing to help, but if you don't agree with what I'm saying and will not change, then we have nothing to discuss except my request being made.

Oh boy, I got a PM too! I must be lucky. Listen up Craig -- you are a partisan hack and what I posted was 100% spot on. It is *YOU* who just doesn't get it. You are a clueless intellectual wannabe who posts nothing but drivel from your stunted point of view. I think it was Bober who said you were vile and had a robotic devotion to Democrat dogma. He was 100% correct.

Also, who the hell do you think you are? Asking me "not to read or reply to my posts"? How about making it easy for me not to read or reply and stop posting the crap you spew?

heh I got a PM also yesterday for calling him a partisan hack :p
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: shiner
Originally posted by: Leon
I am sure every one of these stations were plotting coup against El Presidente. Yup, every single one of them, according to Venezuela Ministry of Truth(tm). Chavez is under attack by Yankees, Jews, Capitalists, Nazis, Illuminati and 4Chan - he needs all the help he can get :D

Leon

p.s. Ministry of Truth representative, Craig234, will be with us shortly to comment on these vile rumors.[/q]
You have proved to be quite the prophet.

check the time stamps
 

Leon

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Nov 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: shiner
Originally posted by: Leon
I am sure every one of these stations were plotting coup against El Presidente. Yup, every single one of them, according to Venezuela Ministry of Truth(tm). Chavez is under attack by Yankees, Jews, Capitalists, Nazis, Illuminati and 4Chan - he needs all the help he can get :D

Leon

p.s. Ministry of Truth representative, Craig234, will be with us shortly to comment on these vile rumors.[/q]
You have proved to be quite the prophet.

check the time stamps

The post was edited for spelling, but nothing else was changed :D

I have yet to receive Craig234 PM, I am feeling very disappointed.

Leon
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: shiner
Originally posted by: Leon
I am sure every one of these stations were plotting coup against El Presidente. Yup, every single one of them, according to Venezuela Ministry of Truth(tm). Chavez is under attack by Yankees, Jews, Capitalists, Nazis, Illuminati and 4Chan - he needs all the help he can get :D

Leon

p.s. Ministry of Truth representative, Craig234, will be with us shortly to comment on these vile rumors.[/q]
You have proved to be quite the prophet.

check the time stamps

Another user a couple posts down quoted Leon including the postscript before Craig posted.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BoberFett

Another user a couple posts down quoted Leon including the postscript before Craig posted.

It is getting to the point where we should have a forum called "Users spurned by Craig." It would be the largest forum on AT by far.
 

Jiggz

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What is happening in Venezuela shouldn't surprise US of A. It all starts with Socialism and then it evolves to tyranny! Why do you think the WH is asking you to report your neighbors if they are spreading something "fishy" about the UHC? It's the next step after socialism, Tyranny!
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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Originally posted by: Jiggz
What is happening in Venezuela shouldn't surprise US of A. It all starts with Socialism and then it evolves to tyranny! Why do you think the WH is asking you to report your neighbors if they are spreading something "fishy" about the UHC? It's the next step after socialism, Tyranny!

While I don't think the "reporting neighbors" thing is really as ill-intentioned as it seems, the point you make about socialism makes me think about the slippery slope we could find ourselves on eventually. And yet, the usual suspects in the forum call you "paranoid" if you mention this slippery slope. Of course, these same people were the ones decrying the slippery slope we were on during the Bush years with the Patriot Act, etc. Let me be clear to all of you partisan cheerleaders -- BOTH parties are bad and BOTH seem intent on eroding our freedoms.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Jiggz
What is happening in Venezuela shouldn't surprise US of A. It all starts with Socialism and then it evolves to tyranny! Why do you think the WH is asking you to report your neighbors if they are spreading something "fishy" about the UHC? It's the next step after socialism, Tyranny!

I don't see the direct link. Perhaps you should start a "Obama is a Marxist" thread, or join one of the various ongoing threads addressing this very issue.

Chavez is an ass, a potentially dangerous ass at that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Kzbo7tNLg
 

Chaotic42

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Jun 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jiggz
What is happening in Venezuela shouldn't surprise US of A. It all starts with Socialism and then it evolves to tyranny! Why do you think the WH is asking you to report your neighbors if they are spreading something "fishy" about the UHC? It's the next step after socialism, Tyranny!

Got a link to that?
 

PJABBER

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You can't be a tin horn dictator without having some big boy toys...

Venezuela to buy Russian arms, tanks: Chavez

Aug 5 11:51 PM US/Eastern AFP

President Hugo Chavez said Venezuela would purchase dozens of Russian tanks, in a move signaling growing military ties between the two countries that have frequently clashed with Washington.

"It will be a major arms agreement to increase our defense capability," the Venezuelan leader told reporters, noting that he hoped to ink other agreements on agriculture, oil and mining during his visit to Moscow in mid-September.

Between 2005 and 2007, Moscow and Caracas signed 12 arms deals worth a total 4.4 billion dollars. Venezuela has acquired 24 Sukhoi fighter planes, 50 combat helicopters and 100,000 Kalashnikov assault rifles. In 2008, it secured a one-billion-dollar loan for the purchase of new weaponry.

Under the new deal, Venezuela would buy a modern battalion of "30 to 40" Russian-made BMP-3, T-72 and MPR tanks, Chavez said following a telephone conversation with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

"Our army will continue to grow," vowed Chavez, who is leading a leftist surge in Latin America and repeatedly lambasts the United States for perceived "imperialist" policies in the region.

Chavez denounced Colombia's plans to open seven bases on its soil to the US military to boost Washington's counternarcotics operations in the region, calling them "a threat."

"I do not want to spend a penny on arms, and that is what I did in the early years of the government... But the (US) empire wanted to disarm us and if not for Russia, we would be virtually unarmed," he said.

Bogota's plans have been met with fierce opposition in South America, prompting Colombian President Alvaro Uribe, a close US ally, to undertake a regional tour this week to tamp down the criticism.

Chavez expressed "frustration" with President Barack Obama over the deal, saying his government has been "assaulted" by the new US administration.

"The policy of aggression against Latin America is the same... It's as if no change had occurred from (former president George W.) Bush to Obama. It's all the same," he said.

The firebrand leftist ordered a halt to the import of 10,000 cars from Colombia, in a further sign of growing frictions between the neighboring countries.

Last week, Chavez recalled his ambassador from Bogota and announced a "freeze" in relations between the two countries, after Colombia claimed that anti-tank rocket launchers sold to Venezuela in the 1980s ended up in the hands of the FARC, a Colombian leftist guerrilla group.

Venezuela and Russia signed an agreement in Caracas in late July boosting their military ties, including through arms purchases, joint maneuvers and military technology.

Russia was given an opportunity to increase military ties with Venezuela after former US president George W. Bush's administration reduced arms sales to the South American oil exporter in 2006 because of what it said was insufficient cooperation from Caracas in the US "war on terror."

Chavez in March also offered Venezuelan air bases for use by Russian long-range bombers.

In November last year, the navies of Venezuela and Russia pointedly held joint exercises in the Caribbean -- traditionally considered a US domain.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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Originally posted by: PJABBER
You can't be a tin horn dictator without having some big boy toys...

Venezuela to buy Russian arms, tanks: Chavez

Aug 5 11:51 PM US/Eastern AFP

President Hugo Chavez said Venezuela would purchase dozens of Russian tanks, in a move signaling growing military ties between the two countries that have frequently clashed with Washington.

--snip--

Don't worry, I'm sure it is for "self defense." I'm sure Craig will be here any moment to explain.