VC&G Community Poll Request (mod-sponsored)

[Aristotelian]

Create an official "All Things Pre-Release HD6xxx" thread

This ^^^^^^

Right, and an equivalent thread when Nvidia's next offerings come out.

Threads like:

"The AMD 6XXX Series Megathread: All questions, here, check the OP for detailed information on the series"

provide a consolidated area for finding information.

 

[JM Popaleetus]

The best way IMHO to handle it is to do it how Howard Forums handles speculation regarding upcoming phones.

There are "Pre-Release Threads" that anything related to that pre-release must go in. Once the item comes out, they are locked and people can make threads as they please.

 

[Rifter]

create an official "all things pre-release hd6xxx" thread

this ^^^^^^

x 2

 

[GaiaHunter]

I voted for mod discretion.

Giant threads aren't exactly fun to read or get into, even if well moderated. I prefer having more accessible information even if that leads to some duplication of it.

Create an official "All Things Pre-Release HD6xxx" thread

This ^^^^^^

Shame you didn't went for a "all things GTX460". ()🙂

 

[Idontcare]

The best way IMHO to handle it is to do it how Howard Forums handles speculation regarding upcoming phones.

There are "Pre-Release Threads" that anything related to that pre-release must go in. Once the item comes out, they are locked and people can make threads as they please.

That's probably how we'd pursue implementing it, if that path is to be implemented.

For example right now we have 11 threads about HD6xxx

Recently Active: (11)

First retail 6870 photo - love the flame, hate the name 🙂

HD 6870 launches Oct 21, slower than 5870?

HD6770 specifications possibly leaked: 1280SPs 900Mhz 256-bit (

1 2)

AMD Radeon 6850 and 6870 are go to launch on October 18

HD6750, 6770, 6850 pricing information (unofficial)

Radeon 6800 Series to support HDMI 1.4a & 3D Stereo Gaming

Japanese 6800 Leak

*ANswerd*/slide experts, why are these AMD 6000 slides different?

Cayman launches in mid-to-late November with high availability

HD6xxx launches ...Oct 12?!

AMD confirms new architecture + launch timeframe for HD6xxx (

1 2)

Recently Locked: (3)

Digitimes turn- AMD to debut Radeon HD 6000-series on October 19th

What I think the 6xxx series will be

HD 6000 series delayed till November?!

Giant threads aren't exactly fun to read or get into, even if well moderated. I prefer having more accessible information even if that leads to some duplication of it.

I agree that uber-threads can become stifling in their own right.

The LCD thread was a great resource for myself a year ago but now I see new threads get started about IPS panels and so on that I simply would have never read had the content of those posts been tucked away inside the LCD thread.

There are pro's and con's to both approaches. Interesting to see the community is nearly 50/50 split over the topic going by the poll results to date.

As it stands right now though, basically everytime Fudz, S/A, or BSN post a new article on a potentially new release date we get a new thread...just look at the thread titles above (and that is only 2wk history up there).

How helpful is it for visitors to our forum to not know which thread is the relevant one to spend their time reading at this time?

Do they read the "Zomg it is coming Oct 12", "Zomg it is coming Oct 18", "Zomg it is coming Oct 19", "Zomg it is coming Oct 21", or the "Zomg it is not coming until Nov" thread?

The reason these threads have not been closed/merged is because the thread relates to a different source with a different leaked date, not exactly "duplicate" by definition.

 

[GaiaHunter]

As it stands right now though, basically everytime Fudz, S/A, or BSN post a new article on a potentially new release date we get a new thread...just look at the thread titles above (and that is only 2wk history up there).

How helpful is it for visitors to our forum to not know which thread is the relevant one to spend their time reading at this time?

Do they read the "Zomg it is coming Oct 12", "Zomg it is coming Oct 18", "Zomg it is coming Oct 19", "Zomg it is coming Oct 21", or the "Zomg it is not coming until Nov" thread?

The reason these threads have not been closed/merged is because the thread relates to a different source with a different leaked date, not exactly "duplicate" by definition.

I understand your feeling.

Speaking for myself, I would never start a new thread just because site X or Y have a new guess on the same subject, but many other users seem to disagree (not a criticism, just different POVs).

A pre-release thread/thread about a popular subject or product would avoid that for sure but would bring the problem of gigantic threads that need 5 hours to read or just skip page after page and then repeat same thing 20 pages later because of skipping.

Maybe a compromise - a pre-release thread/popular subject that would be closed after a certain period of time (or just mod discretion about the relevance of the information) and replaced by a new pre-release thread, and then mods could add the link of the previous thread to the new one.

 

[Ben90]

Recently Active: (11)
First retail 6870 photo - love the flame, hate the name 🙂
HD 6870 launches Oct 21, slower than 5870?
HD6770 specifications possibly leaked: 1280SPs 900Mhz 256-bit (

1 2)
AMD Radeon 6850 and 6870 are go to launch on October 18
HD6750, 6770, 6850 pricing information (unofficial)
Radeon 6800 Series to support HDMI 1.4a & 3D Stereo Gaming
Japanese 6800 Leak
*ANswerd*/slide experts, why are these AMD 6000 slides different?
Cayman launches in mid-to-late November with high availability
HD6xxx launches ...Oct 12?!
AMD confirms new architecture + launch timeframe for HD6xxx (

1 2)
Recently Locked: (3)
Digitimes turn- AMD to debut Radeon HD 6000-series on October 19th
What I think the 6xxx series will be
HD 6000 series delayed till November?!

The Official <Whatever Next-Gen Card> Release Date/Specs/Pricing Thread would clear up a lot of the mess. From there we could either have an official discussion thread or just leave the forums open.

 

[BFG10K]

The Official <Whatever Next-Gen Card> Release Date/Specs/Pricing Thread would clear up a lot of the mess. From there we could either have an official discussion thread or just leave the forums open.

I tried this in the past but I got complaints that people didn’t want to wade through a mega-thread. It’s also unrealistic to expect the poster or a mod to keep the OP updated with new information.

On the flip-side, allowing a thread for every new scrap of information that comes along isn’t viable either.

Therefore we should allow multiple threads with locking at moderator discretion.

 

[Idontcare]

Therefore we should allow multiple threads with locking at moderator discretion.

To help set expectation for the community, would you say the list of active/locked threads in Ben90's post is representative of what the community can/should expect from this policy?

 

[BFG10K]

To help set expectation for the community, would you say the list of active/locked threads in Ben90's post is representative of what the community can/should expect from this policy?

There could be a bit less but I wasn’t watching closely for a few days, so many have dropped off the front page and I never saw them.

 

[soccerballtux]

oops, I think I meant to vote for "at mod discretion"

I honestly don't mind them, I think there's value in having different ones for different leak sources.

 

[Idontcare]

There could be a bit less but I wasn’t watching closely for a few days, so many have dropped off the front page and I never saw them.

Fair enough, thanks for clarifying/confirming.

There was some talk in the thread above about keeping the existing multi-thread approach but having the mods dial up the discretion level and keep it down to 3 or 4 threads tops instead of the kinds of numbers it blossomed into.

(this would have made for a good third option in the poll but we hadn't considered this gray area between the two binary options when we crafted the poll)

I just wanted to make sure the community understood which option you were endorsing.

 

[Idontcare]

Folks, the rate of new votes on the poll has substantially fallen over the past 24hrs so I have set the poll to expire in one day. (sometime tonight after midnight I imagine)

As we can can see from the poll results the VC&G forum here appears to be nearly equally divided on this subject with the lead going to the "maintain the status quo" path.

Moderator Idontcare

 

[Seero]

Folks, the rate of new votes on the poll has substantially fallen over the past 24hrs so I have set the poll to expire in one day. (sometime tonight after midnight I imagine)

As we can can see from the poll results the VC&G forum here appears to be nearly equally divided on this subject with the lead going to the "maintain the status quo" path.

Moderator Idontcare

I see otherwise. If it is a vote, than it shouldn't be affected by the discussion within the thread as people could have read before vote.

My vote, Create an official "All Things Pre-Release HD6xxx" thread. However, those who haven't read through the post will not know the existence of this option.

Those are all rumors, and filling the first post with rumors doesn't generate hits, and those don't have interest about rumors will tend to goto other forums instead. Keeping one thread means, if you want to be up to date, then stick with that thread. Mods can put news to the first page so those who are interested in it can simply check the first page and skip the 150+ other posts within the page.

 

[Idontcare]

I see otherwise. If it is a vote, than it shouldn't be affected by the discussion within the thread as people could have read before vote.

My vote, Create an official "All Things Pre-Release HD6xxx" thread. However, those who haven't read through the post will not know the existence of this option.

Those are all rumors, and filling the first post with rumors doesn't generate hits, and those don't have interest about rumors will tend to goto other forums instead. Keeping one thread means, if you want to be up to date, then stick with that thread. Mods can put news to the first page so those who are interested in it can simply check the first page and skip the 150+ other posts within the page.

Seero I am more than baffled by your post. My post, the one you quoted, was merely based on the poll results to-date showing that the community favors, by a slight margin, maintaining the status quo.

What am I missing?

 

[Seero]

Seero I am more than baffled by your post. My post, the one you quoted, was merely based on the poll results to-date showing that the community favors, by a slight margin, maintaining the status quo.

What am I missing?

It is my fault to quote you. I do know why I quoted you. I don't want to ninja edit it. All I really want to say more than 50% of vote is towards one option, but i have nothing against you or your post. Sorry, I must not have fully awake at the time of the post.

 

[GaiaHunter]

Considering that at this exact time we have a single thread about 6000 series in the first page and this poll is closed, can we conclude that the actual system of moderation works fine?

Sure there was a spike of 6000 series threads, but isn't that probably the most interesting (or at least one of the most) event on the VC&G immediate future?

Were there any conclusions derived from this poll? Or still in study?

Thanks in advance.

(I hope posting on this thread is still ok, even if the poll ended, if not, my bad.)

 

[Borealis7]

i'm against mega-threads in VC&G, because then we'd just have 200 page long fanboy arguments and it would be hard to find actual information inside these threads.

the way things are right now, if a thread deteriorates into an argument it dies off eventually and a new one is started with new information.

 

[Idontcare]

Community poll results are in, the poll is now closed.

Results: 65 (58&#37😉 want the status quo thread management policy to remain while 48 (42%) want an official-thread policy created and enforced.

(the 1 vote for option 3 in the poll was actually intended to be a vote for option 1)

Conclusion: There will be no change in the existing policy of moderator discretion for locking overtly duplicate pre-release threads and no mod-based efforts will be put into creating/establishing official pre-release threads.

Thanks everyone for your contributions to this community poll!