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VC&G Community Poll Request (mod-sponsored)

Future VC&G policy regarding speculation/rumor/(pre)release threads should be:

  • No change in the current policy of locking duplicate threads at mod discretion

  • Create an official "All Things Pre-Release HD6xxx" thread (to be managed by the community, not mods)

  • I don't like either option listed above, I want to propose an alternative, please see my post below

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Hello fellow VC&G forum members,

As many of you have noticed already, there has been recent uptick in the number of AMD HD6xxx related rumor and speculation threads of late.

Some of those threads have been merged or closed when obvious duplicity existed with pre-existing threads.

In an effort to better understand how the community here would like to have video-card threads managed regarding speculation on impending release dates, product specs, and so on, your VC&G Moderator Team would appreciate your feedback in the poll above as well as by posting your inputs and feedback in a post below. 🙂

We can't guarantee that we will implement the most favored polling option (even Stephen Colbert didn't get the space station named after him 😉), as that isn't the main objective of the poll and this thread.

We do hope to have your inputs such that we can better ensure the VC&G sub-forum thread-duplicity policies are striking that fine-balance between too much moderation versus thread entropy gone wild. 😱

And please note that while the progenitor of this poll is the recent uptick in AMD HD6xxx related threads, the precedent set by the actions generated from this poll can be expected to be equally enforced during future periods of impending Nvidia hardware releases as well. :colbert:

Thanks in advance for your time and effort in making sure your voice is heard by voting in the poll! :thumbsup:

Your VC&G Moderator Staff,
BFG10K, Markfw900, and Idontcare


Edit: Community poll results are in, the poll is now closed.

Results: 65 (58&#37😉 want the status quo thread management policy to remain while 48 (42%) want an official-thread policy created and enforced.

(the 1 vote for option 3 in the poll was actually intended to be a vote for option 1)

Conclusion: There will be no change in the existing policy of moderator discretion for locking overtly duplicate pre-release threads and no mod-based efforts will be put into creating/establishing official pre-release threads.
 
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The forum submits the thread OP before the poll is submitted. It should be there now.

Also note the poll result are not disclosed by voter, you get to submit your vote anonymously.
 
If the option of 1 (ONE) topic for all news/rumors/whatever regarding a release is chosen, moderation really needs to pick out all the FUD, bait and crap.

Im going for option 2.

If anything, it will help with the countless topics made for both Nvidia and AMD by overzealous forum members.
 
Mod discretion is my vote, and that's from someone with a rather interesting mod-interaction history 😉

Take it as a mammoth vote of confidence in some of our newer and leading lights in the moderating field, as well as a keener appreciation that blanket rules without discretion always lead to general stagnation and a general lack of exuberance and general joie di vivre 😉

"Topa"

😀
 
I'm fine with one uber-thread as long as it's kept clean - by mods, not by community as I don't want to wade through pages of inane crap posted by NV-sponsored people or misinformed kids.
 
As its not too long till launch now (maybe) go for one thread.

I dont normally like one massive all encompassing thread (see the monitor sticky) but as long as its just till launch go for it.
 
I think it's a bit late now for the 6800 series, since we've already had masses of speculative and rumour threads.

Having, at least early, an all things related to X thread would be good, which can then wind down as things become more concrete (theoretically) closer to launch.
It would partly need (IMO) an organised original post which would get at least occasionally updated with new links to keep it relevant.

But then you would need to work out whether to do per-card or per-family, and in the new ATI card case, by codename or product name (since that has been speculative up to now as well). Certainly having 25 threads all saying almost the same thing, or variations on the same thing, is a little excessive.
 
The problem I see with one consolidated thread for a launch is there are enough varying facets of a launch that one thread will cause the different facets to get lost in the shuffle. Possible specs, possible launch dates, possible benches, possible changes to specs, naming schemes etc.

Also one giant thread will not necessarily stay up on the front page at all times and other threads will get created. Some might say that you could sticky the thread, but that would be a bad idea as at what point do you sticky it ? We still even now don't have a solid release date on the 6 series, so you cannot go by a nearing launch date. And just think of the past NV 4XX series launch, there would of been a stickied thread for 7 months, which obviously is just silly.

It will be difficult to have a discourse using one giant thread as there will be too many differing discussions trying to navigate one stream.

I prefer the mods lock/consolidate obviously similar or needless threads and let the discussions proceed organically and moderate them as necessary.
 
Grooveriding said:
It will be difficult to have a discourse using one giant thread as there will be too many differing discussions trying to navigate one stream.

I prefer the mods lock/consolidate obviously similar or needless threads and let the discussions proceed organically and moderate them as necessary.
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I agree with this. :thumbsup:
 
On a sidenote. Having ONE topic for all the news will probably result in less forum visiting. You know.. generating clicks and money etc.

This is atleast the experiance i have with hardware sites in Norway. Forums stagnate a bit.
 
T2k said:
I'm fine with one uber-thread as long as it's kept clean - by mods, not by community as I don't want to wade through pages of inane crap posted by NV-sponsored people or misinformed kids.
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Point of clarification - an uber-thread would be "moderated" same as any other thread in the sense that thread-crapping, thread-derailing, etc will be responded to.

The one thing I wanted to have clear is that the uber-thread option does not mean the moderators would "own" the OP of the uber-thread. We mods aren't about to sign up for the workload and responsibility of managing the OP to reflect the most recent rumor/speculation/releases/prices/power-consumption/sku-names/etc.

The OP of the uber-thread would be responsible for that. (obviously a volunteer is needed here)

But yes, the uber-thread itself would receive the same level of moderator TLC as can be expected in any other thread, none of that would change regardless the results of this poll.
 
I'd prefer an uber-thread, but I'd like the OP of that thread to be continually edited with the links that are submitted through the thread's life so people don't have to wade through hundreds of posts of bickering to find the relevant links.
 
I voted for no change. But half way through typing this I realized a mix between the two may be best.

In those long all encompassing threads, really well thought out questions can get lost in the rabble rabble rabble. Most threads however are not well thought out questions and we need to close these. I believe we also need the rabble thread to help distract those who believe they need to point out that everyone else is a Nvidia/AMD/Intel/Rambus fanboy from the real questions.

However if there is an all encompassing thread that will be in the most dire need of being moderated. VC&G is very opinionated and the thread will be rendered completely useless without a push to stay on track. You are doing a fantastic job IDC cleaning this forum up.

I have a dream that one day this forum will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these informations to be self-evident, that all companies are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of VC&G, the sons of red roosters and the sons of green goblin owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.​

I have a dream that one day even the state of Wreckage's house, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.​


Wow I'm pissed, I was searching and searching for that star I drew about a year ago that had "Forum Hero" and "In The Name of Justice", but the picture seems to have dissapeared from the interwebs.
 
I voted mod discretion.

Clueless thread-starters who don't notice existing threads now won't notice the uber-thread either, even (especially?) if it is stickied,

Sometimes there are legitimate side-discussions that are interesting to read while others can be skipped, for example there might be separate threads on computing, physics, gaming, pricing, board vendors, GPU design and wafer production . . .
 
Ben90 said:
I voted for no change. But half way through typing this I realized a mix between the two may be best.

In those long all encompassing threads, really well thought out questions can get lost in the rabble rabble rabble. Most threads however are not well thought out questions and we need to close these. I believe we also need the rabble thread to help distract those who believe they need to point out that everyone else is a Nvidia/AMD/Intel/Rambus fanboy from the real questions.

However if there is an all encompassing thread that will be in the most dire need of being moderated. VC&G is very opinionated and the thread will be rendered completely useless without a push to stay on track. You are doing a fantastic job IDC cleaning this forum up.

I have a dream that one day this forum will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these informations to be self-evident, that all companies are created equal."


I have a dream that one day on the red hills of VC&G, the sons of red roosters and the sons of green goblin owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.​



I have a dream that one day even the state of Wreckage's house, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.​



Wow I'm pissed, I was searching and searching for that star I drew about a year ago that had "Forum Hero" and "In The Name of Justice", but the picture seems to have dissapeared from the interwebs.
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lol, that was a good monologue you had going there :thumbsup:

So you would be more inclined to vote for the "mod discretion" with the discretion itself being tilted more towards the "keep it to 2, at most 3, threads" trimming the rest by taking substantial liberty with the interpretative definition of "duplicate threads", does that sum it up?
 
I have always prefered different topics to be covered under different threads, since those huge overarching threads always end up all over the spectrum and difficult to follow.

The issues with having more threads is that you end up with a lot of similar but different threads about popular things, and other threads often get lost in the noise.

Knowing this downside, I still prefer to seperate threads based on the specific topic, since large unspecific topics are almost pointless as they are not good at portraying information.
 
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I voted for this option: Create an official "All Things Pre-Release HD6xxx" thread (to be managed by the community, not mods)

However... I think it should be managed by the mods.

Edit: Just noticed the post above by IDC concerning the issue of moderation, so my vote is for the second option, as it is written.
 
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I definitely think: Create an official "All Things Pre-Release HD6xxx" thread (to be managed by the community, not mods)

although...

1) The OP of the thread needs to be committed to keeping the first post updated with any new links, news, and pics. Otherwise, there will just be a 45 page thread with all the juicy bits mixed up in the debate. Basically, the first post needs to be a one-stop-shop for all info related to whatever card(s) are soon to be launch, and people can read or comment on the rest of the thread if they want to or not.

2) It's locked the day the NDA lifts, and we switch over to a new "official xxxx benchmark thread" to continue the discussion post-launch, that follows the same guidelines of the OP keeping the first post current as more reviews are published.

edit: I am assuming that by 'community managed', it doesn't mean that the thread won't be modded for personal attacks, baiting, etc... just that the overall content of the legitimate discussion won't be controlled by the mods.
 
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