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Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: txrandom
Isn't installing a forum a pretty straight forward process? Is AT adding a ton of customizations or what?

How is it straight forward?

Not sure, that's why I'm asking. I've installed dozens of copies of PHPBB and other forums, but for small sites to play around. How much harder is installing vBulletin? Is it the configuration, AT themes, migration, or what? It seems like it's been in the process for quite a while.
 
Why don't they just finish all preparations; have the thing completely ready to roll, and then set an exactly precise date and time for the switchover.

Say it was ready right now. You post a sticky saying "10:00 P.M. EST May 9th EXACTLY ONE WEEK FROM THE DATE OF THIS STICKY, VB switchover will occur. UPDATE THE EMAIL ADDRESS IN YOUR PROFILE NOW"!

This "Any day now, we'll just about almost kinda sorta probably maybe sometime in the next whenever be thinking about switching to VB so you should update you email address in a bit" is killing me. Get it ready ASAP, but don't mention it until then.
 
Originally posted by: txrandom
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: txrandom
Isn't installing a forum a pretty straight forward process? Is AT adding a ton of customizations or what?

How is it straight forward?

Not sure, that's why I'm asking. I've installed dozens of copies of PHPBB and other forums, but for small sites to play around. How much harder is installing vBulletin? Is it the configuration, AT themes, migration, or what? It seems like it's been in the process for quite a while.

Installing from scratch is one thing, but porting all posts/threads/topics along with usernames and such is intense. Again I ask... how is that easy?
 
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: txrandom
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: txrandom
Isn't installing a forum a pretty straight forward process? Is AT adding a ton of customizations or what?

How is it straight forward?

Not sure, that's why I'm asking. I've installed dozens of copies of PHPBB and other forums, but for small sites to play around. How much harder is installing vBulletin? Is it the configuration, AT themes, migration, or what? It seems like it's been in the process for quite a while.

Installing from scratch is one thing, but porting all posts/threads/topics along with usernames and such is intense. Again I ask... how is that easy?

I don't know...I'm not familiar with the process, which is why I'm asking. 😕
 
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: txrandom
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: txrandom
Isn't installing a forum a pretty straight forward process? Is AT adding a ton of customizations or what?

How is it straight forward?

Not sure, that's why I'm asking. I've installed dozens of copies of PHPBB and other forums, but for small sites to play around. How much harder is installing vBulletin? Is it the configuration, AT themes, migration, or what? It seems like it's been in the process for quite a while.

Installing from scratch is one thing, but porting all posts/threads/topics along with usernames and such is intense. Again I ask... how is that easy?

It's easy enough. For a forum this size the big issue is to make it as fast as possible as you don't want a full 15 minute downtime just waiting for a DB to convert. But basically you're just taking FT tables and converting them to VB. Depending on how the data is stored, it's pretty much just a SELECT * with bunch of INSERTs, table by table. In some cases it may be more complex if there's major DB structure changes like if posts are seperated into like 3 tables on one software and 1 table on the other, etc.

But all in all, probably not too complicated, just long. Need to do lot of testing in a sandbox environment as well.

 
I for one welcome our new VB overlords...I'm fed up with a non-working search and time warp threads.

I've seen a couple of forums screw up the migration from php to vb, so I hope the AT folks take their time and do this right.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
I for one welcome our new VB overlords...I'm fed up with a non-working search and time warp threads.

I've seen a couple of forums screw up the migration from php to vb, so I hope the AT folks take their time and do this right.

Well they've certainly taken their time already 😛
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Beta version is around the corner. Update your profile so that you'll be able to log in after the change.

edit: soon as in maybe next week.


If you don't update your profile, don't whine to me when the moderators are overwhelmed trying to deal with all the people who can't log in.

DrPizza:

Can we get a screen shot of the new forums so we know what to expect?
 
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: txrandom
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: txrandom
Isn't installing a forum a pretty straight forward process? Is AT adding a ton of customizations or what?

How is it straight forward?

Not sure, that's why I'm asking. I've installed dozens of copies of PHPBB and other forums, but for small sites to play around. How much harder is installing vBulletin? Is it the configuration, AT themes, migration, or what? It seems like it's been in the process for quite a while.

Installing from scratch is one thing, but porting all posts/threads/topics along with usernames and such is intense. Again I ask... how is that easy?

It's easy enough. For a forum this size the big issue is to make it as fast as possible as you don't want a full 15 minute downtime just waiting for a DB to convert. But basically you're just taking FT tables and converting them to VB. Depending on how the data is stored, it's pretty much just a SELECT * with bunch of INSERTs, table by table. In some cases it may be more complex if there's major DB structure changes like if posts are seperated into like 3 tables on one software and 1 table on the other, etc.

But all in all, probably not too complicated, just long. Need to do lot of testing in a sandbox environment as well.

they're supposedly doing a ton of scripting just to help in the migration as FT and VB have fairly distinct data structures as well as how they archive stuff, store profiles, etc. I would imagine for a forum of this size, it would be extremely difficult, considering we have been using a customized beta version of FT all this time. Even after the migration, I would say it would take months to sort out all the bugs.
 
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