[Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

[ShintaiDK]

Let's try this again. Do you think this is an acceptable cooler? Is it OK that it runs in excess of 82°C and runs into it's thermal limiter? Do you think it's what a $700 premium card should do?

Whats the difference between a 699$ card and (95C) 549$ card release suddenly?

Also this isn't new, despite you may try to make ti so. Its a standard practice on AMD and Nvidia both.

GTX680 does the same, above listed boost clocks.
GTX980 does the same, above listed boost clocks.
GTX1080 does the same, above listed boost clocks.

Same applies for a bunch of other cards. And its due to the selected fan profile.

But somehow this is now the biggest issue in the world.

Custom cards comes very fast, so if you want a non blower type to run with 3 fans or whatever then there is that option. Just as always.

 

[sontin]

Let's try this again. Do you think this is an acceptable cooler? Is it OK that it runs in excess of 82°C and runs into it's thermal limiter? Do you think it's what a $700 premium card should do?

Yes, the cooler is acceptable.

You can listen to the Maingear guys why the FE costs more:
https://youtu.be/2X2Y_9Zf338?t=1928

 

[3DVagabond]

Yes, the cooler is acceptable.

You can listen to the Maingear guys why the FE costs more:
https://youtu.be/2X2Y_9Zf338?t=1928

Well, let's just say that I'm surprised that anyone could find the criteria that this cooler performs well. A cooler that can't keep a <200W GPU below it's thermal throttle limit is pretty poor by modern standards. Especially on a $700 flagship GPU.

Supposedly soon we are going to have better and cheaper solutions from the AIB's. Anyone who buys this card knowing this is just senseless.

 

[Timmah!]

I've read rumors that nVidia is experiencing teething issues with the interposer cracking. I don't think they could release a GP100/102 right now even if they wanted to.

Not that they would want to. We are going to be on this node for a long time. The industry needs to milk it as much as they can or they'll have long droughts with nothing new and exciting to sell people.

Honestly, if the rumors about existence of GP102 are true, then i think its going to come with GDDR5X. No HBM2 yet, at least not for Pascal generation in consumer space, IMO.

 

[krumme]

Imo the blowers is far more acceptable now there is no fan running at idle (as i assume)
Then the question is if it not silent enough when gaming. So good enough. I think nv got the right balance here.
Besides people know the pro and cons and its good there is choice.
The matter of price goes for the entire product not just cooler.

 

[sontin]

The fan is still running at idle.

 

[David_k]

In idle, the card is very quiet, but it lacks the idle-fan-off feature nearly every board vendor has been using for their GeForce 900 cards.

From TPU's review. the fan is on at idle..

 

[krumme]

From TPU's review. the fan is on at idle..

Sad. That was one nice feature on my msi 970 gaming. Perhaps the non reference blowers will do it.
Well anyway i was thinking of going amd this time anyway but probably it will be the same problem for all the blowers ? Would like to try blower style this time and want something low tdp. And absolutely silent at idle. I am kind of hysterical about sound.

 

[YBS1]

A poor cooler which is better than nearly all AMD Hawaii custom cards. :thumbsup:
At least the blower isnt putting the heat back into the case and heat up every other component and itself.

People who buy $700 video cards shouldn't be putting them in poorly ventilated cases. Next you'll be telling us how the power limiting single 8 pin is a good thing, it's aimed at that huge market of people who want a $700 "premium" GPU to run on a shitty 500W PSU. But...but..."it's premium, premium materials, premium product". You could just tell on those videos they were embarrassed/frustrated having to say that.

 

[brandonmatic]

I think my strategy this time around will be to buy one 1080 for each of my gaming systems. Once 1080 Ti or whatever comes out, I'll use two 1080s in SLI in one system and a single 1080 Ti in another.

Are you planning to buy the FE version or wait for AIB custom coolers with beefier VRMs and power delivery? I assume the AIB cards at least the nicer ones - will probably also cost closer to $700 than $600, but it would probably be worth the wait compared to the FE.

 

[maddie]

Sad. That was one nice feature on my msi 970 gaming. Perhaps the non reference blowers will do it.
Well anyway i was thinking of going amd this time anyway but probably it will be the same problem for all the blowers ? Would like to try blower style this time and want something low tdp. And absolutely silent at idle. I am kind of hysterical about sound.

Very difficult to cool a blower style heatsink without forced airflow.Convection flow is blocked unless you install the card thus fins,in a vertical alignment where you will get some flow. Enough airflow????

 

[krumme]

Very difficult to cool a blower style heatsink without forced airflow.Convection flow is blocked unless you install the card thus fins,in a vertical alignment where you will get some flow. Enough airflow????

Yeaa i can see that when you say it. Well i guess its non blower this time also. Doesnt really matter much. Can regulate flow on my fractal 304 its just a matter of how much noise i can take - right now front blowers are disabled and i have no cpu fan and the backend cooler is extra low speed. My cpu speed probably goes to 120c while gaming. I dont care for temp. Lol.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Stopped fan on a blower design doesn't make sense. Since there really is no heat chimney effect or external airflow to be used.

 

[IllogicalGlory]

A poor cooler which is better than nearly all AMD Hawaii custom cards. :thumbsup:
At least the blower isnt putting the heat back into the case and heat up every other component and itself.

If you did even the most cursory research on that subject, you'd know you were wrong.

You could start with this and figure it out from there:

You don't look good when you literally make something up and post it.

 

[iiiankiii]

Yes, the cooler is acceptable.

You can listen to the Maingear guys why the FE costs more:
https://youtu.be/2X2Y_9Zf338?t=1928

I think it's fair to say that it's okay to want more than acceptable from a card that demands a $100 premium. Acceptable doesn't sound premium to me. After all, isn't Nvidia all about "premium" features?

 

[krumme]

Stopped fan on a blower design doesn't make sense. Since there really is no heat chimney effect or external airflow to be used.

Yeaa but with finfets leakage should be very low.
Whats usage under idle for 1080?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Yeaa but with finfets leakage should be very low.
Whats usage under idle for 1080?

Lower than any other card:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/24.html

But its still not a good idea since you trap the heat under the shroud.

And again, why would it matter? You cant (really) hear it in idle anyway compared to case fan(s), CPU fan, PSU fan, distance etc.

 

[tential]

I think it's fair to say that it's okay to want more than acceptable from a card that demands a $100 premium. Acceptable doesn't sound premium to me. After all, isn't Nvidia all about "premium" features?

If Nvidia tells you it's worth it it's worth it. That's what it comes down to and why people will defend it tooth and nail. Also because many people intend to buy it and don't want to believe their purchase is in anyway bad.

So ya, of course people can justify paying $100 extra for a cooler than will be worse than cheaper cards from aibs with better coolers and guess what, they're justification won't make sense. It's not supposed to. They just don't want to hear bad things about something they want.

Me personally, I don't care if a 1080 is a bad deal in any metric, if I wanted it I'd buy it. My TV wasnt a remotely cost effective per inch purchase and my projector was far cheaper and a larger screen per dollar. You get what you want....

 

[maddie]

If Nvidia tells you it's worth it it's worth it. That's what it comes down to and why people will defend it tooth and nail. Also because many people intend to buy it and don't want to believe their purchase is in anyway bad.

So ya, of course people can justify paying $100 extra for a cooler than will be worse than cheaper cards from aibs with better coolers and guess what, they're justification won't make sense. It's not supposed to. They just don't want to hear bad things about something they want.

Me personally, I don't care if a 1080 is a bad deal in any metric, if I wanted it I'd buy it. My TV wasnt a remotely cost effective per inch purchase and my projector was far cheaper and a larger screen per dollar. You get what you want....

Truer words have never been written.

 

[sontin]

I think it's fair to say that it's okay to want more than acceptable from a card that demands a $100 premium. Acceptable doesn't sound premium to me. After all, isn't Nvidia all about "premium" features?

Premium doesnt mean it is premium for you. There is a reason why MSI designed a new card with blower over the reference GTX980TI:
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GTX-980-Ti-6GD5-V1.html#hero-overview

And here is a customer review:

The shroud is plastic with a metallic look, fan is loud and mine had coil whine.On the upside my ASIC was 81.5% and it overclocked to 1500+ with stock voltage. Couldn't play with voltage as the temps were hard to keep under control. It wasn't a bad card but spending $20-30 more would be a wise choice.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1166876-REG/msi_gtx_980ti_6gd5_v1_gtx_980_ti_6gddr5.html

But i guess they just had enough time...

 

[tential]

Premium doesnt mean it is premium for you. There is a reason why MSI designed a new card with blower over the reference GTX980TI:
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GTX-980-Ti-6GD5-V1.html#hero-overview

And here is a customer review:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1166876-REG/msi_gtx_980ti_6gd5_v1_gtx_980_ti_6gddr5.html

But i guess they just had enough time...

Great so you know where I can get that msi advanced blower 980ti for $750?

 

[mohit9206]

A little touchy question.
How much can lavish parties, five star hotel accommodations, five star food and drinks,VIP treatment, etc affect the tone of reviews?

 

[sontin]

This card had cost $649 like the reference model.

 

[Zanovar]

A little touchy question.
How much can lavish parties, five star hotel accommodations, five star food and drinks,VIP treatment, etc affect the tone of reviews?

Haha hopefully they never should.my prawn cocktail was off btw.i kid.

 

[maddie]

A little touchy question.
How much can lavish parties, five star hotel accommodations, five star food and drinks,VIP treatment, etc affect the tone of reviews?

A lot.

I remember seeing a study once on the reported view of situations where the press were treated as you describe vs a plain press conference. Statistically, the odds of favourable press rose significantly with a lavish event.

Human nature. We can be influenced and sometimes quite easily.