Van Jones - Obama's Green Jobs Czar

Modelworks

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I think Obama could gain a lot of points if he distanced himself from Van Jones. The guy is the biggest crackpot he currently associates with.

Some of the things this guy has said:
"We're really entering a third wave of environmentalism in the United States. The white polluters and the white environmentalists are essentially steering poison into the people of color communities."

"I'm willing to forgo the cheap satisfaction of the radical pose for the deep satisfaction of radical ends."

"I met all these young radical people of color, I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary."

"We could have clean coal, and we could have unicorns pull our cars for us."

"This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don't stop there! Don't stop there! We're gonna change the whole system! We're gonna change the whole thing. We're not gonna put a new battery in a broken system. We want a new system. We want a new system!"
Full keynote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVNtoAiOh1k

Then he goes on to talk about how we will have solar powered bulldozers and chainsaws and go to war not over oil but lithium to make the batteries ?


If all you do is have a clean energy revolution, you won?t have done anything?. If all we do is take out the dirty power system, the dirty power generation in a system, and just replace it with some clean stuff, put a solar panel on top of this system, but we don?t deal with how we are consuming water, we don?t deal with how we are treating our other sister and brother species, we don?t deal with toxins, we don?t deal with the way we treat each other; If that?s not a part of this movement,? this is all you?ll have: You?ll have solar-powered bulldozers, solar-powered buzz saws, and bio-fueled bombers, and we?ll be fighting wars over lithium for the batteries instead of oil for the engines, and we?ll still have a dead planet. This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don?t stop there! Don?t stop there! No, we gonna change the whole system! We gonna change the whole thing! We not gonna put a new battery in a broken system, We want a new system. We want a new system."
He doesn't want coal, doesn't want electric powered vehicles, doesn't want oil, what the hell do we run stuff off? His unicorns ?


He also called republicans assholes but so has a lot of people so not holding that against the guy.

To me the guy brings nothing to the job just another nut who complains about everything and provides no solutions.





Some of the quotes are from the keynote and some from here:

http://therealbarackobama.word...-of-color-communities/

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/musings-from-our-green-czar-jones
 

RyanPaulShaffer

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I'd bet there are millions of dollars allocated in the "stimulus" bill for research into "unicorn powered" alternate energy. ;)

Sadly, I am only half-joking. :(
 

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I've got to agree that some of those quotes are, at best, odd, and, at worst, damaging to the administration. He's quite a loon.

I don't understand why this quote is one of the ones you posted though:

"This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don't stop there! Don't stop there! We're gonna change the whole system! We're gonna change the whole thing. We're not gonna put a new battery in a broken system. We want a new system. We want a new system!"

Assuming he's talking about the movement towards green(er) energy sources, I don't see why this quote is bad? I'm a firm believer that there isn't just one perfect solution, but a combination of many different energy solutions (solar, wind, nuclear, fuel-cell, etc.), is what is going to be needed to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels.

Can't view youtube at work, but assuming those quotes are true and not out of context (I'm not sure how the majority of them could be), he's definitely a bit crazy.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: syrillus
I've got to agree that some of those quotes are, at best, odd, and, at worst, damaging to the administration. He's quite a loon.

I don't understand why this quote is one of the ones you posted though:

"This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don't stop there! Don't stop there! We're gonna change the whole system! We're gonna change the whole thing. We're not gonna put a new battery in a broken system. We want a new system. We want a new system!"


I included that because it seemed to be just complaining and not offering any solutions. It is like saying " Every home in America should have clean, free power and we can't do it now because the system is broken" , but never telling why it is broken or how you propose to accomplish solving the problem. It seemed more to be preaching than talking about an issue.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: syrillus
I've got to agree that some of those quotes are, at best, odd, and, at worst, damaging to the administration. He's quite a loon.

I don't understand why this quote is one of the ones you posted though:

"This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don't stop there! Don't stop there! We're gonna change the whole system! We're gonna change the whole thing. We're not gonna put a new battery in a broken system. We want a new system. We want a new system!"


I included that because it seemed to be just complaining and not offering any solutions. It is like saying " Every home in America should have clean, free power and we can't do it now because the system is broken" , but never telling why it is broken or how you propose to accomplish solving the problem. It seemed more to be preaching than talking about an issue.

Well you're giving sound bytes. Fitting a solution into one isn't going to happen. Do you have links and context to these quotes?
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: syrillus
I've got to agree that some of those quotes are, at best, odd, and, at worst, damaging to the administration. He's quite a loon.

I don't understand why this quote is one of the ones you posted though:

"This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don't stop there! Don't stop there! We're gonna change the whole system! We're gonna change the whole thing. We're not gonna put a new battery in a broken system. We want a new system. We want a new system!"


I included that because it seemed to be just complaining and not offering any solutions. It is like saying " Every home in America should have clean, free power and we can't do it now because the system is broken" , but never telling why it is broken or how you propose to accomplish solving the problem. It seemed more to be preaching than talking about an issue.

Well you're giving sound bytes. Fitting a solution into one isn't going to happen. Do you have links and context to these quotes?

Watch the youtube videos.

 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
I think Obama could gain a lot of points if he distanced himself from Van Jones. The guy is the biggest crackpot he currently associates with.

If the President chose to associate with Van Jones in the first place, why would he back down now?
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: syrillus
I've got to agree that some of those quotes are, at best, odd, and, at worst, damaging to the administration. He's quite a loon.

I don't understand why this quote is one of the ones you posted though:

"This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don't stop there! Don't stop there! We're gonna change the whole system! We're gonna change the whole thing. We're not gonna put a new battery in a broken system. We want a new system. We want a new system!"


I included that because it seemed to be just complaining and not offering any solutions. It is like saying " Every home in America should have clean, free power and we can't do it now because the system is broken" , but never telling why it is broken or how you propose to accomplish solving the problem. It seemed more to be preaching than talking about an issue.

Well you're giving sound bytes. Fitting a solution into one isn't going to happen. Do you have links and context to these quotes?

Watch the youtube videos.

Yeap, taken out of context.

The quote about him being a 'revolutionary' is being taken out of context the same way that Barack Obama's admissions of being an angry kid were taken out of context. Why would you mention his position in the early 1990's (which was most certainly marxist), and ignore the position that he changed to only a few years later that he still holds today, one of free market, capitalistic environmentalism.

The quote about clean coal is right on the money. The quote is him talking about how 'clean coal' does not actually exist, and he's 100% correct. No coal plants even come remotely close to being clean. If you hear the quote in context he is talking about how the idea is just as fanciful as pulling cars by unicorn.

As for your idea that he's just a 'complainer that offers no solutions', he wrote an entire book on how to put his eco-capitalist ideas into practice. To pull a quote from the wiki on it:

W]e are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.

So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs ? and the success and survival of their enterprises. Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed. That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world ?and everyone else.

What in the world is wrong with that?

 

Underclocked

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The president seems to like associations with radical extremists and criminals. Many here and across the country need to get out of la-la land and get a clue. I think they would realize the changes we are heading for and already seeing are not the sort of changes that coincide with American values.

I wonder what truly pertinent qualifications Van Jones might bring to the table regarding energy production? Unicorn strategies?
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Underclocked
The president seems to like associations with radical extremists and criminals. Many here and across the country need to get out of la-la land and get a clue. I think they would realize the changes we are heading for and already seeing are not the sort of changes that coincide with American values.

I wonder what truly pertinent qualifications Van Jones might bring to the table regarding energy production? Unicorn strategies?

He created an NGO designed to combat poverty using eco-capitalistic solutions, he's written a NYT bestseller on the subject as well and he's been cited by business publications as one of the most creative minds in business today. The title of his position is 'Special Advisor for Green Jobs', and he has been working for years to create... green jobs (with considerable acclaim).

That was easy.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: eskimospy


The quote about him being a 'revolutionary' is being taken out of context the same way that Barack Obama's admissions of being an angry kid were taken out of context. Why would you mention his position in the early 1990's (which was most certainly marxist), and ignore the position that he changed to only a few years later that he still holds today, one of free market, capitalistic environmentalism.

What has he done to prove his views have changed ? Nothing. We are supposed to believe that he somehow radically changed his views from the past 20 years in just a few months ?

The quote about clean coal is right on the money. The quote is him talking about how 'clean coal' does not actually exist, and he's 100% correct. No coal plants even come remotely close to being clean. If you hear the quote in context he is talking about how the idea is just as fanciful as pulling cars by unicorn.

What is he going to use ? Where does it come from ? Coal produces over 50% of the nations power.

As for your idea that he's just a 'complainer that offers no solutions', he wrote an entire book on how to put his eco-capitalist ideas into practice. To pull a quote from the wiki on it:

W]e are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.

So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs ? and the success and survival of their enterprises. Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed. That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world ?and everyone else.

What in the world is wrong with that?

From his book
Now it is time to head back down the right road again. If the federal
government shifts its policy to fully back the green economy,
the private sector can create millions more jobs in new clean and
green industries. A smart climate bill?which mandates reductions
in greenhouse gases and ends our oil dependence?would not wreck
the economy, but save it.
It would eventually break the back of stagfl
ation. It would be an economic stimulus package on steroids.

But no single group can win that monumental victory in Washington
by itself. Certainly, affl uent, mostly white environmental
lobbying groups cannot win a comprehensive victory on their own.

No top-down agenda, dictated to society by a perceived eco-elite,
will win acceptance in a country as proud and diverse as ours. Any
kind of elitist approach will fuel resentment and generate a ?backlash
alliance? between polluters and poor people. For the sake of the
planet, the effort to green the economy must be owned by a much
bigger and broader coalition. Most environmental groups know
this, but adjusting to true partnership with very different people
may not be easy for some of them.

There is reason to worry. Here we must face honestly some hard
and painful truths about a sad history of racial blind spots and class
exclusion in some parts of the mainstream environmental movement.

I raise the point not to pick at old scabs, but to help avoid new
injuries. The truth is that even the greatest ecological victories?
from the Wilderness Act to the establishment of the Superfund?
could have been better engineered to involve, include, and help
more people.


What is he going to replace coal and oil with ? They do need replacing that is true, but start placing mandates and watch the economy improve ? What economists has said that ?

His book is endorsed by Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi , that more than speaks to its content.

Have you read the solutions that he does offer ?
We can do it if you take money from prisons and give it to green jobs , okay, but what do we do with the prisoners ? His idea, "we give them green jobs", what ? So we take murderers and thieves and do what with them ? Do prisoners even recycle ?

"The best answer to our ecological crisis also responds to our socio-economic crisis The surest path to safe streets and peaceful communities are not more police and prisons, but ecologically sound economic development. And that same path can lead us to a new green economy."

So if we teach kids to recycle they will not use drugs , rob stores, or commit crimes ? Damn , lets get started right away, we can make all the police patrol recycle bins to make sure there is no paper in with the plastic .


 

Underclocked

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What are his technical qualifications? Does he have detailed knowledge of energy production methods? Or is he of the "SPECIES???" that is simply talented at leading the gullible?

It all sounds good, doesn't it? That's what I got out of his linked speech - a lot of "sounds good, feels good" with no substance.

Just askin'.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: eskimospy


The quote about him being a 'revolutionary' is being taken out of context the same way that Barack Obama's admissions of being an angry kid were taken out of context. Why would you mention his position in the early 1990's (which was most certainly marxist), and ignore the position that he changed to only a few years later that he still holds today, one of free market, capitalistic environmentalism.

What has he done to prove his views have changed ? Nothing. We are supposed to believe that he somehow radically changed his views from the past 20 years in just a few months ?

The quote about clean coal is right on the money. The quote is him talking about how 'clean coal' does not actually exist, and he's 100% correct. No coal plants even come remotely close to being clean. If you hear the quote in context he is talking about how the idea is just as fanciful as pulling cars by unicorn.

What is he going to use ? Where does it come from ? Coal produces over 50% of the nations power.

As for your idea that he's just a 'complainer that offers no solutions', he wrote an entire book on how to put his eco-capitalist ideas into practice. To pull a quote from the wiki on it:

W]e are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.

So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs ? and the success and survival of their enterprises. Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed. That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world ?and everyone else.

What in the world is wrong with that?

From his book
Now it is time to head back down the right road again. If the federal
government shifts its policy to fully back the green economy,
the private sector can create millions more jobs in new clean and
green industries. A smart climate bill?which mandates reductions
in greenhouse gases and ends our oil dependence?would not wreck
the economy, but save it.
It would eventually break the back of stagfl
ation. It would be an economic stimulus package on steroids.

But no single group can win that monumental victory in Washington
by itself. Certainly, affl uent, mostly white environmental
lobbying groups cannot win a comprehensive victory on their own.

No top-down agenda, dictated to society by a perceived eco-elite,
will win acceptance in a country as proud and diverse as ours. Any
kind of elitist approach will fuel resentment and generate a ?backlash
alliance? between polluters and poor people. For the sake of the
planet, the effort to green the economy must be owned by a much
bigger and broader coalition. Most environmental groups know
this, but adjusting to true partnership with very different people
may not be easy for some of them.

There is reason to worry. Here we must face honestly some hard
and painful truths about a sad history of racial blind spots and class
exclusion in some parts of the mainstream environmental movement.

I raise the point not to pick at old scabs, but to help avoid new
injuries. The truth is that even the greatest ecological victories?
from the Wilderness Act to the establishment of the Superfund?
could have been better engineered to involve, include, and help
more people.


What is he going to replace coal and oil with ? They do need replacing that is true, but start placing mandates and watch the economy improve ? What economists has said that ?

His book is endorsed by Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi , that more than speaks to its content.

Have you read the solutions that he does offer ?
We can do it if you take money from prisons and give it to green jobs , okay, but what do we do with the prisoners ? His idea, "we give them green jobs", what ? So we take murderers and thieves and do what with them ? Do prisoners even recycle ?

"The best answer to our ecological crisis also responds to our socio-economic crisis The surest path to safe streets and peaceful communities are not more police and prisons, but ecologically sound economic development. And that same path can lead us to a new green economy."

So if we teach kids to recycle they will not use drugs , rob stores, or commit crimes ? Damn , lets get started right away, we can make all the police patrol recycle bins to make sure there is no paper in with the plastic .

Are you kidding me?

What has he done to show his views have changed? He went from being a self proclaimed Marxist to founding groups dedicated to promoting change through private enterprise. I already mentioned this several times, how did you miss it?

There are tons of alternatives to coal, and nobody is suggesting we stop using coal overnight. He is promoting the means by which to spur innovation, exactly what we should want government to do.

The first part you quoted is almost entirely correct. The environmentalist movement has been an elite movement for nearly the entirety of its existence. (isn't this one of the things that conservatives always complain about in regards to it?) He simply said that the environmentalist movement can and should be more inclusive. There's nothing wrong with that.

The second part you quoted from his book was extremely reasonable and an excellent blueprint. America has the highest rate of incarceration in the world, and his suggestion is that maybe we should attack the root causes of crime (poverty) instead of locking more people up. This is the view held by nearly everyone outside of the farthest right ideologues.

I can't believe I'm even wasting the time to defend the statements you quoted, as they do not need it. Absolutely ridiculous.
 

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I just think it is funny how liberals claim they are for the earth because they are against coal and natural gas but then try and push wind and solar. If the liberals really wanted to "save the earth" they would start pushing nuclear. If the real agenda of these people was to build cost effective clean energy sources than nuclear is that option.

So what is the real agenda?
 

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: syrillus
I've got to agree that some of those quotes are, at best, odd, and, at worst, damaging to the administration. He's quite a loon.

I don't understand why this quote is one of the ones you posted though:

"This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don't stop there! Don't stop there! We're gonna change the whole system! We're gonna change the whole thing. We're not gonna put a new battery in a broken system. We want a new system. We want a new system!"


I included that because it seemed to be just complaining and not offering any solutions. It is like saying " Every home in America should have clean, free power and we can't do it now because the system is broken" , but never telling why it is broken or how you propose to accomplish solving the problem. It seemed more to be preaching than talking about an issue.

Well you're giving sound bytes. Fitting a solution into one isn't going to happen. Do you have links and context to these quotes?

Watch the youtube videos.

Yeap, taken out of context.

The quote about him being a 'revolutionary' is being taken out of context the same way that Barack Obama's admissions of being an angry kid were taken out of context. Why would you mention his position in the early 1990's (which was most certainly marxist), and ignore the position that he changed to only a few years later that he still holds today, one of free market, capitalistic environmentalism.

The quote about clean coal is right on the money. The quote is him talking about how 'clean coal' does not actually exist, and he's 100% correct. No coal plants even come remotely close to being clean. If you hear the quote in context he is talking about how the idea is just as fanciful as pulling cars by unicorn.

As for your idea that he's just a 'complainer that offers no solutions', he wrote an entire book on how to put his eco-capitalist ideas into practice. To pull a quote from the wiki on it:

W]e are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.

So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs ? and the success and survival of their enterprises. Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed. That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world ?and everyone else.

What in the world is wrong with that?

You have got to be kidding me.

So, if Chavez just upped and changed his tune today, you would believe him.

The guys is a wacko plain and simple.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: CPA

You have got to be kidding me.

So, if Chavez just upped and changed his tune today, you would believe him.

The guys is a wacko plain and simple.

So by 'today' you mean 'more than a decade ago'? The guy has spent the last ten years plus promoting eco-capitalism, but yeah... he just 'up and changed his tune today'.

Take off the ultra partisan blinders and look at reality. You guys are becoming dangerously unhinged.
 
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: CPA

You have got to be kidding me.

So, if Chavez just upped and changed his tune today, you would believe him.

The guys is a wacko plain and simple.

So by 'today' you mean 'more than a decade ago'? The guy has spent the last ten years plus promoting eco-capitalism, but yeah... he just 'up and changed his tune today'.

Take off the ultra partisan blinders and look at reality. You guys are becoming dangerously unhinged.
Sorta like this guy was 10 years ago before he saw the light? Hmmm. Next up in the news: "Leopard Changes His Spots!"
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: CPA

You have got to be kidding me.

So, if Chavez just upped and changed his tune today, you would believe him.

The guys is a wacko plain and simple.

So by 'today' you mean 'more than a decade ago'? The guy has spent the last ten years plus promoting eco-capitalism, but yeah... he just 'up and changed his tune today'.

Take off the ultra partisan blinders and look at reality. You guys are becoming dangerously unhinged.
Sorta like this guy was 10 years ago before he saw the light? Hmmm. Next up in the news: "Leopard Changes His Spots!"

Uhmm, sure. You can think the guy was nuts 10 years ago, I'm concerned with what he is now. I'm certain that quite a few people on here are nuts.

If you think people can't change their political ideology not only are you wrong, but of course you would have to explain how he changed his political ideology towards communism to begin with. (hint: he wasn't always one.)
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
I think Obama could gain a lot of points if he distanced himself from Van Jones. The guy is the biggest crackpot he currently associates with.

Some of the things this guy has said:
"We're really entering a third wave of environmentalism in the United States. The white polluters and the white environmentalists are essentially steering poison into the people of color communities."

"I'm willing to forgo the cheap satisfaction of the radical pose for the deep satisfaction of radical ends."

"I met all these young radical people of color, I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary."

"We could have clean coal, and we could have unicorns pull our cars for us."

"This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don't stop there! Don't stop there! We're gonna change the whole system! We're gonna change the whole thing. We're not gonna put a new battery in a broken system. We want a new system. We want a new system!"
Full keynote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVNtoAiOh1k

Then he goes on to talk about how we will have solar powered bulldozers and chainsaws and go to war not over oil but lithium to make the batteries ?


If all you do is have a clean energy revolution, you won?t have done anything?. If all we do is take out the dirty power system, the dirty power generation in a system, and just replace it with some clean stuff, put a solar panel on top of this system, but we don?t deal with how we are consuming water, we don?t deal with how we are treating our other sister and brother species, we don?t deal with toxins, we don?t deal with the way we treat each other; If that?s not a part of this movement,? this is all you?ll have: You?ll have solar-powered bulldozers, solar-powered buzz saws, and bio-fueled bombers, and we?ll be fighting wars over lithium for the batteries instead of oil for the engines, and we?ll still have a dead planet. This movement is deeper than a solar panel! Deeper than a solar panel! Don?t stop there! Don?t stop there! No, we gonna change the whole system! We gonna change the whole thing! We not gonna put a new battery in a broken system, We want a new system. We want a new system."
He doesn't want coal, doesn't want electric powered vehicles, doesn't want oil, what the hell do we run stuff off? His unicorns ?


He also called republicans assholes but so has a lot of people so not holding that against the guy.

To me the guy brings nothing to the job just another nut who complains about everything and provides no solutions.





Some of the quotes are from the keynote and some from here:

http://therealbarackobama.word...-of-color-communities/

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/musings-from-our-green-czar-jones

You have to forgive model works......he is known for taking things out of context!!