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Valve making a console (Rumor: with picture inside)

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cmdrdredd

cmdrdredd

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Beev said:
Hahahahahaha, I've never heard anyone say that, but I don't think I'd be able to control my laughter if I did.
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Laugh all you want but that's what people think. HL2? Xbox/PS3. Crysis 2? Yeah they got that. Skyrim, Need for Speed, DeusEx, Dirt 3, hell they even pulled development from Allen Wake to make it for the Xbox first (although I do not like this game).

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Besides a few MMOs and a couple Diablo games and maybe RTS...every good AAA title is available for consoles. I'm sorry, it's just how it is. Starcraft and Diablo 3 won't make people drop cash on a box when they know all the CoD games will be on their consoles.

BD2003 said:
Indeed. Plus, it'll be great to have a competitor in the console space that's constantly pushing specs, that way we don't get saddled with the same hardware for 8 years.
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Or you might get saddled with the same hardware for 8 years when they find out they can sell games to SteamBox owners who never upgraded the thing for so long. They will make the games based on the fact that there's x number of SteamBox owners who probably never ever upgraded the video, and you'll end up with a game that doesn't take advantage of the latest hardware. Then what? You think you're $500 GTX4000 will be worth it's price?

I hate to say it but this is flat out a bad idea.



Cuda1447 said:
So they need their own exclusive titles. Valve can make good games. Look at the popularity of Modern Warfare 3. You don't think Valve couldn't produce a new age CS that competed with MW3? That'd be a hell of an exclusive. Valve can make games. They also are on the cutting edge of distribution models, which may or may not take off, but if it does they will be a leader in that area. Perhaps that will drive prices of games down, which would be an advantage for their console. I see no reason why they can't make a console that performs as well as PS4 or Xbox4, but obviously price point will be important.


All in all, I don't see why this would be a fail necessarily. I'd be even more intrigued if this has been a plan of theirs for years. And ultimately, competition is a good thing. This is exciting news and I hope they succeed.
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Outside of certain circles MW3 is a bigger name. Take any kid off the street and ask him to name an online shooter. I bet he'll either say Battlefield or CoD, maybe Halo. That's how this works. We know what Counterstrike is because we play PC games. You need to market this for those who don't. Unfortunately, the average person out there interested in video games knows what Uncharted or Gears of War is.

Also, you gotta look beyond shooters. What does Valve do besides shooters? Portal? That's a joke IMO. There's no Platformers, no Adventure games, no real RPGs. That's what sells to console gamers outside the token shooter game.
 
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Skel said:
Sounds more like you want a PC with console game support.
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No, I want a console w/ KB + M support...I don't want a PC with a legit OS. I want something like the PS3 or 360 that I can tuck under the TV in the living room, operate it primarily with a controller, and have the option to go KB+mouse.

PC software has gotten to the point where resale is almost impossible.
 
cmdrdredd

cmdrdredd

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Corporate Thug said:
No, I want a console w/ KB + M support...I don't want a PC with a legit OS. I want something like the PS3 or 360 that I can tuck under the TV in the living room, operate it primarily with a controller, and have the option to go KB+mouse.

PC software has gotten to the point where resale is almost impossible.
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I never buy a game thinking "dude I can get $40 for this when I'm done! Score!!" That is silly
 
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cmdrdredd said:
I never buy a game thinking "dude I can get $40 for this when I'm done! Score!!" That is silly
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To each their own. There are a ton of games that I buy, beat, and throw on the shelf. I'd prefer recouping the costs and putting it towards another games...not sure what's so silly about that...
 
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cmdrdredd said:
I never buy a game thinking "dude I can get $40 for this when I'm done! Score!!" That is silly
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That's kind of his point.. it used to be the way to finish a game then sell it off to recoup some of the costs. Sadly most console games are starting to go down the route of stopping reselling by codes and what-not. In the near future I'm expecting it to be all but impossible to sell off a game you buy.
 
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the resale value is less but you can still sell it. digital distribution means no resale

unless it's like steam with constant sales less people will buy games
 
cmdrdredd

cmdrdredd

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Corporate Thug said:
To each their own. There are a ton of games that I buy, beat, and throw on the shelf. I'd prefer recouping the costs and putting it towards another games...not sure what's so silly about that...
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That's not what I said. I said I don't buy a game because of it's proposed resale value. If I can sell it or get a good trade-in deal on it when I'm done then fine. However, many games have online components that might last me much longer and the value drops to a level where it's no longer worth selling it. $60 on March 6 and in November you get $12 for it. Yeah...not unless there's a trade-in deal where I can double up or something.

Everyone in this thread misread or misinterpreted. I am simply saying that I don't choose what titles to buy based on the fact I can sell/trade it for good value later. I buy the game cause I like the series or want to play it. I wouldn't buy a game I wasn't fond of just cause it may be worth more resale value than a game I love.
 
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