Value of Skylake Celeron / Pentium, over Haswell or Ivy Bridge equivalent?

[cytg111]

Uhh yeah... everyone should have an i7 ... to browse Facebook....

At the very least an i5, yes, i believe so.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Skylake Celeron is considered to be a dramatic redesign from Haswell, since memory RAM frequency speed shot up to 2133 MHz with DDR4 in G3900/G3920 vs. only 1333 MHz with DDR3 in G1840/G1850. That's not even 1600 MHz found in Pentium G3420 and higher.

Personally for me, I would wait for Skylake Celeron G3900 (including me), since it's only $5 more than Haswell, assuming.

I want some benchmarks showing results in older games and lightweight benchmarks.No one was able to produce them in the Skylake thread,not with all the attention on the i3/i5 and i7 chips of course.

I can see it being more beneficial to buy a G4400 now,$25 or so more expensive isn't wallet breaking but while your waiting for this G3900 i am sure most could have come up with a additional $25.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Whatever that hybrid deal is, Skylake seems to be a lot faster at it than Haswell.

Well sure the GPU built-in is faster. The majority of those results that are significantly different between the chips is due to that.

 

[waltchan]

I can see it being more beneficial to buy a G4400 now,$25 or so more expensive isn't wallet breaking but while your waiting for this G3900 i am sure most could have come up with a additional $25.

G4400 is priced very well at $60, since it's rated 500 MHz faster than G3900, and can be noticeable a little in speed. It's the same price with G3260 right now. Intel was kind enough not to launch G4400's speed at 3.1 GHz.

 

[LTC8K6]

Well sure the GPU built-in is faster. The majority of those results that are significantly different between the chips is due to that.

IP6200 and HD530 seem to be about tied at it, but HD530 has half the EUs of IP6200.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1501?vs=1544

 

[hhhd1]

Skylake is much better for budget PCs than Haswell, it is more future proof, with better iGPU.

Even google maps puts significant load on the iGPU today (tested on sadybridge HD 3000).

 

[escrow4]

iGPU is irrelevant for basic users. If you have a $50 Celeron you are obviously not interested in 4K. x265 is also not mature and needs a stack of work:

http://www.techspot.com/article/1131-hevc-h256-enconding-playback/

Realistically basic users will be up for 720p or sub 480p, with all those XviDs they have "acquired" that a potato can play back with AAC/MP3 or DTS/AC3. Maybe 1080p if they have the bandwidth and/or space. Anything flash based or HTLM5 can be played back no issues, 1080p60 depending on browser.

So a Haswell Celeron is more than sufficient for all that. Actual web browsing I've seen this G1850 spike to 100% way more often than any i5 would just yawn at but its enough for now.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Skylake Celeron is considered to be a dramatic redesign from Haswell, since memory RAM frequency speed shot up to 2133 MHz with DDR4 in G3900/G3920 vs. only 1333 MHz with DDR3 in G1840/G1850. That's not even 1600 MHz found in Pentium G3420 and higher.

Personally for me, I would wait for Skylake Celeron G3900 (including me), since it's only $5 more than Haswell, assuming.

My builds tend to be for the "kids play facebook and I do office" crowd, with a few "I'm older than fire and just want to check my email" ones thrown in. The idea is to be fast enough not to feel like a complete dog in 5+ years, which is why the savings from an A8 go into an SSD and more RAM.

 

[VirtualLarry]

The idea is to be fast enough not to feel like a complete dog in 5+ years

Wouldn't that be more of a reason to go Intel?

 

[NTMBK]

Wouldn't that be more of a reason to go Intel?

An SSD will make more difference than the difference between an A8 and an i3.

 

[escrow4]

Wouldn't that be more of a reason to go Intel?

In 5yrs you can buy another Celeron for $50 or less that will likely be as fast as an i5 from 5yrs previous. Porn boxes don't need much.

 

[VirtualLarry]

In 5yrs you can buy another Celeron for $50 or less that will likely be as fast as an i5 from 5yrs previous. Porn boxes don't need much.

Pretty much.

Comparison between Q9300 and G4400:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1044&cmp[]=2634

 

[waltchan]

The first $35 AR LGA1151 board finally just come in:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128873

Now, if only I can locate a Celeron G3900 processor. :\

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yeah, I saw that board. Not bad at all. Not to mention, DDR4 reaching price parity with DDR3... almost. I saw some 8GB DDR4 DIMMs for $31 the other day.

Now all we need are the Celerons for $42.

 

[waltchan]

Yeah, I saw that board. Not bad at all. Not to mention, DDR4 reaching price parity with DDR3... almost. I saw some 8GB DDR4 DIMMs for $31 the other day.

Now all we need are the Celerons for $42.

Yep, that's one of the things I like about Gigabyte. There's always some rebates going on. Asus, blah...:thumbsdown: However, I would take an ECS board instead if it drops down to $25 after rebate.