Valedictorian (ILLEGAL alien) boasted about full tuition paid for and ILLEGAL status

[thraashman]

See, the problem me and many on this thread have this, it currently is *better* to be illegal than do the legal way for any immigration rule in America.

Brought here illegally as a kid: DACA for unrestricted EAD/college etc.
Brought here as a kid by parents legally (but are waiting for a green card): your kid 'ages out' and has to apply for a student visa or go home.

High skilled employment based immigrant from India or China: Wait for 5+ years for a green card, go home if you lose your job, travel itself is shaky because your visa might not be honored

Illegal here on DACA: travel privileges

High Skilled immigrant having a child in the US: Be on a H1 visa until you get a green card, and each job change = go through 2 years of reapplying for a green card gain. And oh, H1 renewals = 2k + lawyer fees (paid by the employer)

Illegally present with a child in the US: get unrestricted employment authorization (proposed) renewable every 2 years, fee: $380.

As an immigrant, I'm not sure there's any benefit to doing things the right way. Worse is that liberals seem to support this unfairness whole heartedly. Why is that? I just don't understand it.

I don't think anyone denies that we need to reform our immigration system, but reformation of it has been blocked by Republicans for years.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Did you apply from the US?

I had to apply to the US INS for my wife and step-daughter for their permanent resident Visas. All interviews, medical exams, and Visas had to be done/processed in the country of their birth.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I don't think anyone denies that we need to reform our immigration system, but reformation of it has been blocked by Republicans for years.

As in they are not in favor of any reformed policy system that includes amnesty for those here illegally.

 

[Perknose]

I feel people here are missing the real crime . . . her ridiculous, "better than perfect" GPA. Getting a 4.5 on a scale that only goes up to 4 feels illegal and alien to me.

 

[alien42]

I feel people here are missing the real crime . . . her ridiculous, "better than perfect" GPA. Getting a 4.5 on a scale that only goes up to 4 feels illegal and alien to me.

she's a witch, BURN HER!

 

[BlitzPuppet]

What is preventing her from applying for citizenship instead of boasting that she is undocumented?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

she's a witch, BURN HER!

did she turn you into a newt?

 

[ElFenix]

What is preventing her from applying for citizenship instead of boasting that she is undocumented?

Presumably she didn't turn 18 until recently, assuming she is 18. so that, for one

 

[Anubis]

wouldn't the fact that she lacked documentation come up in applying for school/loans/grants/whatever?
im pretty sure I had to put my SS# on more then one of those forms

 

[Perknose]

did she turn you into a newt?

Newts? Trump has their number, "“They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.”

Undocumented amphibians are the worst. Not one has citizenship papers. The tsunami of rape they perpetrate on Mammalian Americans is as imaginary as it is awful. D:

And don't get me started on lizards. They steal our women. My friend's wife left him for a salamander. They steal our celebrity pitchman jobs. Case in point: The Geico Gecko. And their scaly green skin is your tip off that they're the insidious secret force behind eco-terrorism.

Now, Neanderthals are another story. Without them, the Republicans would lose a significant part of their base.

 

[buckshot24]

This man might say you're not legal.

He couldn't enforce his sovereignty over the land would you like us to become like him?

 

[buckshot24]

I feel people here are missing the real crime . . . her ridiculous, "better than perfect" GPA. Getting a 4.5 on a scale that only goes up to 4 feels illegal and alien to me.

Yeah it kind of cheapens it when you can get extra credit, how much extra credit did she get?

It's like a bowler who gets a 325 game.

 

[MajinCry]

He couldn't enforce his sovereignty over the land would you like us to become like him?

He was promised sovereignty, and instead given mass rape, human trafficking and genocide.

Some of you lads would be better off if ya spent a day in a Native American's shoes for a day. Might finally grant some perspective and empathy.

 

[buckshot24]

He was promised sovereignty, and instead given mass rape, human trafficking and genocide.

Some of you lads would be better off if ya spent a day in a Native American's shoes for a day. Might finally grant some perspective and empathy.

I do feel for them and they got a bum rap, but he couldn't enforce his control over the land. Why do you want us to do the same?

 

[MajinCry]

I do feel for them and they got a bum rap, but he couldn't enforce his control over the land. Why do you want us to do the same?

Looks like someone stuffed a bunch of straw down this hol-Oh look, a goose being chased!

 

[Vic]

The white supremacist losers can't stand a free society because it means a brown skinned person can and will out-achieve them. That's why the trailer park trash who don't make enough to pay taxes are trying to pass off their multi-trillion dollar "build a wall and deport them all" plan as "small government." Their right to mediocrity must be protected at any cost.

 

[Perknose]

He couldn't enforce his sovereignty over the land would you like us to become like him?

Bingo! Sing it with me!

This land was your land
But now it's my land
Just not California
Or the New York Island

'Cause those are brown towns
Hispanic clown towns

This land was made for only me!

 

[buckshot24]

The white supremacist losers can't stand a free society because it means a brown skinned person can and will out-achieve them. That's why the trailer park trash who don't make enough to pay taxes are trying to pass off their multi-trillion dollar "build a wall and deport them all" plan as "small government." Their right to mediocrity must be protected at any cost.

Who are these white supremacists you speak of?

 

[Wreckem]

Yeah it kind of cheapens it when you can get extra credit, how much extra credit did she get?

It's like a bowler who gets a 325 game.

In that case you would have to give a negative modifier for those taking regular on level courses. Because a 95 in an AP class is entirely different than a 95 in an on level class.

Instead of giving negative modifiers, for regular courses, districts give .05 and .1 modifiers for PreAP and AP courses. So a theoretical 100 in an AP course is weighted as a 110 or a 5.0.

 

[buckshot24]

In that case you would have to give a negative modifier for those taking regular on level courses. Because a 95 in an AP class is entirely different than a 95 in an on level class.

Instead of giving negative modifiers, for regular courses, districts give .05 and .1 modifiers for PreAP and AP courses. So a theoretical 100 in an AP course is weighted as a 110 or a 5.0.

Back in my day they didn't do it this way. Thanks for the information.

 

[ivwshane]

I feel I must be missing a reference to something here.

Edit: Jesus I must need sleep. You're doing a Trump impersonation aren't you?

Lol. It was a reference to trumps claim that illegals are rapists as well as a reference to Steve king and his comment about illegals and their large calfs the size of cantaloupes from all the drug smuggling they do.

 

[MongGrel]

Looks like someone stuffed a bunch of straw down this hol-Oh look, a goose being chased!

Bucky might actually catch one someday, until then we can all watch.

 

[buckshot24]

Bingo! Sing it with me!

This land was your land
But now it's my land
Just not California
Or the New York Island

'Cause those are brown towns
Hispanic clown towns

This land was made for only me!

You can leave first if you think we shouldn't be here.

 

[flexy]

Well it sounds like she is smart enough to know she was undocumented. Maybe she could have gotten herself documented with her smarts.

I agree with your overall point though. It is a slippery slope. It just sounds like the US is enabling this type of behavior over and over. Being an enabler is not a good thing.

It is my understanding she came here when she was a small child, so there is no "behavior" as such that can be blamed. It is also my understanding (from reading between the lines) that she needs to wait until 18, or she just turned 18 and otherwise does indeed pursue to become legal, as soon as she can.

Irony: "Sending her back" (which is stupid on its own, WHERE TO?) would indeed be a net-loss for the US, since money was spent, the girl successfully graduated and it's 99,99% likely she'll indeed benefit America with her presence, unlike some trailer-trashing Trump supporters.

The "problem" is INDEED not "illegals coming in", but those "illegals coming in and costing the system money" aka not ever becoming a valuable member of society. I don't deny those exist. I don't deny there are drug dealer, gangsters etc. who may be illegals..YET I am opposing stupid stereotyping like this. Unfortunately, racists and Trump supporters CAN do nothing else but stereotyping, I mean their Führer made it clear that in his opinion every/most illegal Mexican is a criminal and rapists.

 

[flexy]

You said a lot of nothing, but do you have anything to say about the topic or undocumented people getting free hand outs?

This is pretty much comparable to European gvts, eg. Germany giving the "free handout" of education to everyone, incl. the unemployed, people on welfare and even immigrants. Those "handouts" have a reason.

It is to no-one's benefit if people come in and are forced to leech off the system for the rest of their lives. It is in fact THE SMARTEST thing to do to give them free education as a way to make sure they will integrate into society as fast as possible.

People like you NEVER can look beyond the obvious. You see the "free handout" and the mind stops. Same in this case, there is actually no "logical reason" to pursue that the lady should be "sent back" at all costs (EVEN IF SHE'S TECHNICALLY INDEED ILLEGAL) since in this case we can expect she being a benefit to society. She may well be one of the next owners of a successful startup etc, who knows. Possible.