VA Tech style attack threatened, halted

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: compman25
So what does Oregon have to do with this?

I believe he moved from Oregon to Florida in December. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: Quintox
WTF is wrong with people

ATOT is like the news station, we post the bad stuff 99% of the time...and once in a blue moon we get some good guy stuff.

 

[sutahz]

Maybe he did just want attention.
Attention he will recieve while in jail/prison.
Perhaps then he will appreciate his once solitary existance.

 

[FDF12389]

Too much hype. Would he get this much coverage if he only had one gun?

 

[KB]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes

Originally posted by: TallBill
Having lots of guns + ammo doesn't really mean anything. You only need one gun to commit murder. I personally collect firearms so yes I have a lot and a lot of proper ammo. Even having a vest doesn't mean much. I have one as well that I got for free.

The error that he made is making threats. He will never be allowed to own any firearms legally again, and might end up in FPMITAP.

And you have armor-piercing rounds as well? Also, I thought civilians weren't supposed to have bullet-proof vests (maybe it depends by state/city).

I'm glad they're taking this threat serious. Also, the kid's parents sound like complete morons.

The guy is a dummy, no ifs ands or buts.


The rest of the article is just sensational journalism. Just about any rifle round from .223 and up can pierce armor. This includes typical deer hunting rounds like .30-30, .300, or .308. All normal AK rounds, 7.62X39mm, can pierce armor. Nobody has to go out of their way to buy these rounds. You can get them in sporting goods stores.

Also bullet proof vests have never been illegal. Civilians have always been able to get them; however it is illegal to use them during illegal activities.

And that whole "meant to take down aircraft or military machinery," is total BS. I remember reading some time ago in a news article that muzzleloaders that shoot a .50 caliber ball were considered anti-aircraft weapons because of the size of the ball. IMO you should actually be a shooter before you write articles about guns.

 

[BigToque]

What laws has he actually broken?

Uttering threats? Possession of illegal/unregistered firearms? You can't really convict him of much.

Hopefully he'll get the help that he needs now that we've had a chance to intervene and a potential tragedy has been avoided.

 

[dakels]

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Wong,
Please wake the fvck up and take some preemptive measures before your offspring murders a community. You may want to start with not giving him your Paypal account to buy a 5th AK-47.

Thanks.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: KB

Originally posted by: frostedflakes

Originally posted by: TallBill
Having lots of guns + ammo doesn't really mean anything. You only need one gun to commit murder. I personally collect firearms so yes I have a lot and a lot of proper ammo. Even having a vest doesn't mean much. I have one as well that I got for free.

The error that he made is making threats. He will never be allowed to own any firearms legally again, and might end up in FPMITAP.

And you have armor-piercing rounds as well? Also, I thought civilians weren't supposed to have bullet-proof vests (maybe it depends by state/city).

I'm glad they're taking this threat serious. Also, the kid's parents sound like complete morons.

The guy is a dummy, no ifs ands or buts.


The rest of the article is just sensational journalism. Just about any rifle round from .223 and up can pierce armor. This includes typical deer hunting rounds like .30-30, .300, or .308. All normal AK rounds, 7.62X39mm, can pierce armor. Nobody has to go out of their way to buy these rounds. You can get them in sporting goods stores.

Also bullet proof vests have never been illegal. Civilians have always been able to get them; however it is illegal to use them during illegal activities.

And that whole "meant to take down aircraft or military machinery," is total BS. I remember reading some time ago in a news article that muzzleloaders that shoot a .50 caliber ball were considered anti-aircraft weapons because of the size of the ball. IMO you should actually be a shooter before you write articles about guns.

Agreed. It's hard to separate the sensationalism from the facts unless you know better for a lot of these types of stories. 5000 rounds of ammo! That's not a lot when you consider that a typical box of .22 shells from Walmart contains (750?) rounds. I usually buy several boxes at a time, and my kids can easily go through a box in a weekend of target shooting.

 

[CPA]

kid? kid? He's a friggen adult and needs to be handled as such. Calling him a kid, we're already attempting to dismiss his offense.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: SZLiao214
Never actually planned? Thats a crap load of guns and ammo just for fun.

That's not that much in ammo really (or guns if you're a collector, but I don't think he seems to fall under this). Think of it this way, it's pretty easy to go through 100 rounds in a single session at the range. Say you go to the range once a week maybe every other week, that's 2600 rounds a year. Plus, given the cost of ammo, it always makes sense to purchase your ammunition in large lots.

I never buy in quantities less than 800-1000 rounds (case), usually quite a bit more if I get a good price on something. The UPS man wasn't too happy with my 20,000+ round order of Turkish 8mm Mauser I scored for $2/80 rounds.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: CPA
kid? kid? He's a friggen adult and needs to be handled as such. Calling him a kid, we're already attempting to dismiss his offense.

What offense? All we know is he uttered threats and may possibly be in possession of illegal/unregistered firearms.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: CPA
kid? kid? He's a friggen adult and needs to be handled as such. Calling him a kid, we're already attempting to dismiss his offense.

What offense? All we know is he uttered threats and may possibly be in possession of illegal/unregistered firearms.

Classifying what he did as an "illegal offense" or not doesn't matter. The bottom line is that this young adult did something extremely stupid that merits both punishment and correction. It's easy to defend people like this....until either you or someone you care deeply about gets shot or murdered. Some potential problems are well worth taking measures to prevent.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: CPA
kid? kid? He's a friggen adult and needs to be handled as such. Calling him a kid, we're already attempting to dismiss his offense.

What offense? All we know is he uttered threats and may possibly be in possession of illegal/unregistered firearms.

Classifying what he did as an "illegal offense" or not doesn't matter. The bottom line is that this young adult did something extremely stupid that merits both punishment and correction. It's easy to defend people like this....until either you or someone you care deeply about gets shot or murdered. Some potential problems are well worth taking measures to prevent.

Maybe punnishment and correction from his parents. He hasn't really broken any major laws. People get charged with uttering threats all the time.

You can't imprision him because he MIGHT have committed a crime.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: CPA
kid? kid? He's a friggen adult and needs to be handled as such. Calling him a kid, we're already attempting to dismiss his offense.

What offense? All we know is he uttered threats and may possibly be in possession of illegal/unregistered firearms.

Classifying what he did as an "illegal offense" or not doesn't matter. The bottom line is that this young adult did something extremely stupid that merits both punishment and correction. It's easy to defend people like this....until either you or someone you care deeply about gets shot or murdered. Some potential problems are well worth taking measures to prevent.

Maybe punnishment and correction from his parents. He hasn't really broken any major laws. People get charged with uttering threats all the time.

You can't imprision him because he MIGHT have committed a crime.

Murder threats are against the law.

Read this

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: CPA
kid? kid? He's a friggen adult and needs to be handled as such. Calling him a kid, we're already attempting to dismiss his offense.

What offense? All we know is he uttered threats and may possibly be in possession of illegal/unregistered firearms.

It depends on what state he's in actually.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: CPA
kid? kid? He's a friggen adult and needs to be handled as such. Calling him a kid, we're already attempting to dismiss his offense.

What offense? All we know is he uttered threats and may possibly be in possession of illegal/unregistered firearms.

Classifying what he did as an "illegal offense" or not doesn't matter. The bottom line is that this young adult did something extremely stupid that merits both punishment and correction. It's easy to defend people like this....until either you or someone you care deeply about gets shot or murdered. Some potential problems are well worth taking measures to prevent.

Maybe punnishment and correction from his parents. He hasn't really broken any major laws. People get charged with uttering threats all the time.

You can't imprision him because he MIGHT have committed a crime.

Murder threats are against the law.

Read this

There is no way he's going to go to jail for uttering a death threat on the internet, nor should he.

He needs help and I hope the judge in this case forces him to get that help.

 

[Baked]

Oh please, half of ATOT have more arsenal in their home, they just don't post their plot on the internet.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

real original wu chi wong. Fucking loser.

 

[hiromizu]

We need to arm and gun educate everyone including students and faculty members so that no one would dare think about hurting someone in school. Absolutely brilliant idea.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: BigToque

There is no way he's going to go to jail for uttering a death threat on the internet, nor should he.

He needs help and I hope the judge in this case forces him to get that help.

I think you are making some false assumptions about what I am implying. I never mentioned that what he did merits jail time. I just believe he deserves punishment and corrective action of some kind. The severity of that punishment and correction is up to the courts. There is no way that I can provide an educated opinion on how severe it should be since my knowledge is limited to a news article.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigToque

There is no way he's going to go to jail for uttering a death threat on the internet, nor should he.

He needs help and I hope the judge in this case forces him to get that help.

I think you are making some false assumptions about what I am implying. I never mentioned that what he did merits jail time. I just believe he deserves punishment and corrective action of some kind. The severity of that punishment and correction is up to the courts. There is no way that I can provide an educated opinion on how severe it should be since my knowledge is limited to a news article.

I think I misunderstood what you were implying. It appears that you and I are on the same page.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: SZLiao214
Never actually planned? Thats a crap load of guns and ammo just for fun.

I have a lot more, and they are used just for fun.

I love how the media sensationalizes this type of thing.

"...more than 5,000 rounds of ammunition, some that could pierce armor..."

So... several bricks of .22 LR and a box of most types of rifle ammunition could fit that bill. I would bet that the AK-47s were semi-automatic, too. If they had been fully-automatic, they media would have jumped all over that fact. They seem to prefer to lead people to the wrong, but more sensational conclusion.

 

[jpeyton]

Wow, 5k rounds of ammo!?!? :roll:

That's like 5,000 dead people! He could take out an entire college campus if he's got l33t skills.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
He hid them in his parents' closet? Don't his parents even use the closet? I mean wtf, how can you not know there are two hugeass guns there.

Tom Cruise has been hiding in various closets all his life and no one seems to find him.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
How about we just allow everybody but frat boys to have guns (beliggerant and drunk)

So only frat guys get drunk? Not that I want to derail the thread but this stigma just reeks of ignorance and stupidity. Do frat guys get drunk? Hell yes we do (did). But the fact is everyone else did too.