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VA GOP to require loyalty oath in presidential primary

Cerpin Taxt

Cerpin Taxt

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http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/.../28/1/paul-top-gop-primary-ballot-ar-1572784/

Basically, the VA Republicans are telling people that they have to promise to vote Republican -- whoever the eventual nominee will be -- in order to participate in the Republican primary, or else they will not be allowed to vote at all.

So in essence, people have to make up their minds right now to vote Republican, no matter who the candidate is, and they will not be free to change their minds come November.

Tell me again that Republicans are not trying to suppress voting. I need another laugh.
 
Cerpin Taxt said:
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/.../28/1/paul-top-gop-primary-ballot-ar-1572784/

Basically, the VA Republicans are telling people that they have to promise to vote Republican -- whoever the eventual nominee will be -- in order to participate in the Republican primary, or else they will not be allowed to vote at all.

So in essence, people have to make up their minds right now to vote Republican, no matter who the candidate is, and they will not be free to change their minds come November.

Tell me again that Republicans are not trying to suppress voting. I need another laugh.
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Don't worry you will have the normal Rabid Right Wingers in here swooping down to defend this outrageous idea like a buzzard on a dead carcass.
 
It's a meaningless, unenforceable pledge. Go cry me a river with your pathetic "voter suppression" whining.
 
ichy said:
It's a meaningless, unenforceable pledge. Go cry me a river with your pathetic "voter suppression" whining.
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Whether or not its enforceable, their goals are quite clear. Disclaim it all you like, but it is clear that you are not interested in fair and open elections.

You are the problem. Grats.
 
How is this process not "open?" Here in Maryland you have to be a registered Republican or Democrat to vote in that party's primary. Is that voter suppression?

BTW, I'm probably voting for Obama in 2012. I'm not a huge fan of his but he's less awful than any GOP candidate except for maybe Huntsman so Obama is who I'm stuck with. The whining of the far-left sure does make tempt me to vote GOP, but then I remember that the far-right is just as repulsive if not more so.
 
Rethuglicans strike again.

You guys do realize this is all being viewed by the public, right? Or, did Obama secretly pay you all off and asked that you make yourselves look like total assholes?
 
airdata said:
Sorry, but only dolts vote for a party instead of an individual candidate.
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Yes, because party has nothing to do with what happens in government. Each individual politician behaves completely independant of party.

Whether or not Republicans control Congress or not has no effect on what the government does - what bills are heard, what agendas are passed ro blocked. None at all.
 
Craig234 said:
Yes, because party has nothing to do with what happens in government. Each individual politician behaves completely independant of party.

Whether or not Republicans control Congress or not has no effect on what the government does - what bills are heard, what agendas are passed ro blocked. None at all.
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bi-partisan politics is what ruins our country. The process breaks when people just vote on things because others in their "party" are voting that way.

At that point it's a mindless job, if they even show up to vote.


What I'm saying is that you people are all doing it wrong. You guys are anti government when the " other team " is in office. Then when "your team" is in office you're pro government.

What you need to realize is, there is no spoon. Both parties lie cheat and steal. All of your partisan bickering just keeps you from focusing on real issues like the military industrial complex pushing for war with Iran when China and Russia have both said they'd back them up.

Can any of you say WW3 ? Are we all really going to sit here and argue about dumb shit while the people pulling the strings are trying to pull the same shit w\ Iran that they did w\ Iraq?

Israel lied about having nukes for years. during which we caught them spying on us numerous times...

There were no WMD in Iraq just like there's no WMD in Iran. And if there was it certainly wouldn't be pointed at us.
 
So if I like GOP candidate #1 and hate #2 and vote for #1 in the primaries but #2 wins, then I'm stuck voting for #2 if I don't want to break an oath? That seems logical 🙄
 
Macamus Prime said:
Rethuglicans strike again.

You guys do realize this is all being viewed by the public, right? Or, did Obama secretly pay you all off and asked that you make yourselves look like total assholes?
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That comes natural to just about every Republican I know. 😉
 
ichy said:
It's a meaningless, unenforceable pledge. Go cry me a river with your pathetic "voter suppression" whining.
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So true . But like so many in life you just don't get it . YOU sign a pledge an oath to vote Rep in the election. When you Vote and you don't honor your oath you are MADE a LIAR . Ya Ya I know big deal right . We'll see how that plays out in 2012. Its scarry kinda that you would say . So anyone can change their mind. Yep but a man would honor his oath befor excepting the lliar part of the deal . A mans word is the man. All I see is a bunch of spineless liars. A mans word is who he is . Break your word and you are broken .

Unbent UNbowed UNbroken
 
soundforbjt said:
Ya gotta give it to repubs though, they are more organized, and in near perfect lockstep (with the exception of the TP).
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Yeah but the best part of it is that the American people know what happens when you polish a turd....well it's still a turd. Hence the GOP clown show for the next potential POTUS. 😉
 
Ausm said:
Yeah but the best part of it is that the American people know what happens when you polish a turd....well it's still a turd. Hence the GOP clown show for the next potential POTUS. 😉
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So true look at Obummers youth and the man . Your words really hit home here.The guy polished up real well and look at what we got the biggest turd ever.
 
Ausm said:
Yeah but the best part of it is that the American people know what happens when you polish a turd....well it's still a turd. Hence the GOP clown show for the next potential POTUS. 😉
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But the Tea Party has now made the repubs know how the dems felt, dealing with a broader umbrella. It's definately making their agenda harder to manage. 😉
 
soundforbjt said:
Ya gotta give it to repubs though, they are more organized, and in near perfect lockstep (with the exception of the TP).
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If it were that way, they wouldn't be demanding a loyalty oath, would they?

I almost feel sorry for Repubs this cycle, at least in terms of POTUS nominees. The base really, really wants Rick Perry, but he'd need another 20 points on his IQ to win, and his attack on SS shows it...

They have a whole kennel full of dogs that won't hunt.
 
I hate to break up the left-fest, but you guys may be surprised what you find out when you wikipedia the term, "closed primary."
 
Atreus21 said:
I hate to break up the left-fest, but you guys may be surprised what you find out when you wikipedia the term, "closed primary."
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That's supposed to be meaningful, I suspect, but lands a couple of tacos shy of a combination plate...
 
Since the parties are really just private organizations, they are free to set their own rules for how their candidates get nominated (because that's all it is - a vote to nominate a candidate to run in a general election). As long as they aren't violating discrimination laws, I don't see how this is a problem.

Cerpin Taxt said:
So in essence, people have to make up their minds right now to vote Republican, no matter who the candidate is, and they will not be free to change their minds come November.
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It's not binding since you can't force people to vote for candidate X over candidate Y (or Party X vs Party Y) in a general, publicly held election. Anyway, politicians don't have a problem side-stepping their own promises; why should the people that sign oaths to vote for a specific party feel obliged to keep the promise they signed?
 
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ichy said:
It's a meaningless, unenforceable pledge. Go cry me a river with your pathetic "voter suppression" whining.
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Well it is very wacko, something almost religious in expectation.
Irony is- professional lairs expect others to be truthful.

Stay away from the light Carol-Anne!
 
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