Utorrent Trouble

[ManBearPig]

Well i have all my settings correct based on the guide, but somethings not working. Im at university, and im not using a router, but im getting a little caution symbol (yellow triangle with a ! in it). It says "no incoming connections." It apparently means my ports aren't forwarded--but should they be? im not even using a router. any ideas?

also, should i enable DHT? and should i force protocol encryption?

thanks a lot

 

[rh71]

they can block ports for you even if you don't have a router. Hit CTRL+G for the speed guide that can test it for you. Try changing ports but it's possible you're out of luck on torrents altogether.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Heen05
Well i have all my settings correct based on the guide, but somethings not working. Im at university, and im not using a router, but im getting a little caution symbol (yellow triangle with a ! in it). It says "no incoming connections." It apparently means my ports aren't forwarded--but should they be? im not even using a router. any ideas?

also, should i enable DHT? and should i force protocol encryption?

thanks a lot

try forcing protocol encryption... but I have the same problem as you and nothing helps

We're just SOL. The schools do a damn good job at making sure you aren't spreading stuff around.

 

[ManBearPig]

oh man, you're right...it's blocked. any ideas how i can find my ports that are open, and then use those ports?

thanks...this sucks!

 

[ManBearPig]

i mean, some work, and even really fast, but sometimes its soo damn slow.

 

[WildHorse]

should i enable DHT

yes Distributed Hash Table


I was getting good results with uTorent for a while, but I can hardly use it any more. Within moments of trying to begin any download I'm swamped by newtear attackes which cause denial of service.

It apparently means my ports aren't forwarded--but should they be? im not even using a router. any ideas?

here.

 

[ManBearPig]

Originally posted by: scott
Within moments of trying to begin any download I'm swamped by newtear attackes which cause denial of service.

What exactly does this mean?

 

[WildHorse]

Originally posted by: Heen05

Originally posted by: scott
Within moments of trying to begin any download I'm swamped by newtear attackes which cause denial of service.

What exactly does this mean?

It's a bad thing to be on the receiving end of.

It means that whenever I attempt to leech or seed any torrent, the firewall on my computer starts reporting that it's getting pinged to death with "newtear" attacks, which are a type of attack launched against me by some bad person(s) out there in web-land, that floods the target's (me) computer with so much incoming noise traffic that I can no longer receive or send a single packet. In other words, denial of internet service by maliciously overwhelming the computer with noise.

 

[ManBearPig]

What do you guys personally think about upload amounts? How much should i be uploading? In my experiences it didn't differ if i shared a lot or very little. Just curious.

btw, anything i can do about the blocked ports?

thanks

 

[gorcorps]

Like I said... your university (like mine) will not allow torrent uploading as much as they can help it. It's not a matter of finding an open port, it's a matter of disguising your torrent data so the school doesn't know. But the school will know you're doing something bad, otherwise there'd be no reason to encrypt your data. They could then shut off the internet to your room entirely because you went against your agreement.

Yes I know torrents in general aren't illegal and I'm not implying you're downloading anything illegal from them, but most schools have decided that there's no reason for those to be going on so they block it.

 

[ManBearPig]

I see...so should i disable the force encryption? I've always had it set to forced and they've not done anything.

 

[WildHorse]

What do you guys personally think about upload amounts? How much should i be uploading?

I did a thread on exactly that question awhile ago but can't find it with the Search function.

The answers were all over the map, but the consensus was that you should upload 100% or more.

 

[rh71]

^ uploading at full throttle affects your download speeds negatively... need *some* space in the pipe.

 

[Aikouka]

Having worked IT at an institution of higher education, I have a bit of an idea about measures that colleges/universities take to ensure their traffic is going where they want it to go.

#1) You may not be firewalled, but THEY have one.

#2) They've probably got a packet shaper that allocates bandwidth for certain ports and packet types. This is what encryption tries to alleviate. This is also probably what's causing them to be fast sometimes and slow other times.

Your best bet is to honestly find something that works on your network and DO NOT TELL ANYONE ABOUT IT. I cannot stress that last part enough. When I was at college, I used IRC for all of my downloading, it was the only thing that wasn't horridly limited, but if everyone started using it, they would limit it. The college did have port 6667 (the typical IRC connection port) blocked, which wasn't hard to get around when most servers can connect on different ports .

I've seen great downloading tools come into fruition at a college and it all starts out great and within a month they're limited because so many people start using them. I saw it happen with BitTorrent (unfortunately I was probably the first person to use it and shouldn't have told people) and Ares (that one wasn't my fault ).

When it comes to uploading, you should try to do 100%, but I will admit that I pretty much never do. It's simply a moot point when your Internet bandwidth is NOT a 1:1 ratio for download:upload. I'm more of a 4:1 ratio on my download:upload, and because of this, I cannot upload enough to hit 100% when the torrent is completed and if more torrents start downloading after that one is done, then there'll be even more torrents vying for more of my max allotted upload rate. Then there's also the fact that I play online games and I need some upload speed. So many factors go into the very little upload that broadband typically offers .

 

[WildHorse]

Originally posted by: rh71
^ uploading at full throttle affects your download speeds negatively... need *some* space in the pipe.

Misunderstanding.

I did not mean to upload at 100% speed. In my case the upload speed is only 8 mbps wjhile the download is also running (my Verizon connection is 85% worse than for all other Verizon customers, but there's no alternative where I live.)

I meant that the one who downloads a torrent ought to seed it to a ratio of >= 100%.

The W A Y

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
Having worked IT at an institution of higher education, I have a bit of an idea about measures that colleges/universities take to ensure their traffic is going where they want it to go.

#1) You may not be firewalled, but THEY have one.

#2) They've probably got a packet shaper that allocates bandwidth for certain ports and packet types. This is what encryption tries to alleviate. This is also probably what's causing them to be fast sometimes and slow other times.

Your best bet is to honestly find something that works on your network and DO NOT TELL ANYONE ABOUT IT. I cannot stress that last part enough. When I was at college, I used IRC for all of my downloading, it was the only thing that wasn't horridly limited, but if everyone started using it, they would limit it. The college did have port 6667 (the typical IRC connection port) blocked, which wasn't hard to get around when most servers can connect on different ports .

One other option is using a tunnelling program, such as HTTP Tunnel or Your Freedom, both of which have Pay and Free services (the free ones are more limited), but they were quite helpful for me getting round university restrictions.
HTTP tunnel free allows multiple connections, each limited to low speed, so while I may have got 0kb/s normally, I managed to get 40kb/s or so using the HTTP tunnel free service.
They are also useful for other things, like Skype (which was also blocked).
Often certain IP's were banned (the main Your Freedom website was blocked, and servers got blocked eventually, but they had enough working ones that we were able to make use of it).

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
One other option is using a tunnelling program, such as HTTP Tunnel or Your Freedom, both of which have Pay and Free services (the free ones are more limited), but they were quite helpful for me getting round university restrictions.
HTTP tunnel free allows multiple connections, each limited to low speed, so while I may have got 0kb/s normally, I managed to get 40kb/s or so using the HTTP tunnel free service.
They are also useful for other things, like Skype (which was also blocked).
Often certain IP's were banned (the main Your Freedom website was blocked, and servers got blocked eventually, but they had enough working ones that we were able to make use of it).

This can get you in serious trouble by the way... I advised to never do it as it is circumventing protection methods setup by the college and is most definitely violating any policies you signed where as downloading is not as long as you're not monopolizing bandwidth.