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uTorrent Beta for mac released

So I used it to download ubuntu 8.10.

It is fast and clean. It is not yet feature complete, but it gets the job done. I wish they would add some reordering features and ipfilter support like the windows version has. However it is a good solid client. I'll stick with transmission until it matures.
 
I will take a look at it, but it will take a lot to get me to switch from Transmission, especially after my experience with uTorrent on Windows (poor to say the least)
 
Originally posted by: TheStu
I will take a look at it, but it will take a lot to get me to switch from Transmission, especially after my experience with uTorrent on Windows (poor to say the least)
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why didn't you like it? It's management of files is superior to transmission I think. Though, with that said, the latest version on windows was flakey for me (i had to revert back to 1.6, prior to the buyout basically).

So far, it looks good, I like the single window interface over transmission, as well as automatically continuing w/ my queue. It is missing "speed limits" that transmission has, and apparently doesn't like the port I mapped for BT. It also doesn't preprompt you with what you want to download (for selective downloading)

I'll use it for a little and see how it goes. One of the bigger things I didn't like about transmission was not properly dealing w/ selective downloads.
 
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: TheStu
I will take a look at it, but it will take a lot to get me to switch from Transmission, especially after my experience with uTorrent on Windows (poor to say the least)
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why didn't you like it? It's management of files is superior to transmission I think. Though, with that said, the latest version on windows was flakey for me (i had to revert back to 1.6, prior to the buyout basically).

So far, it looks good, I like the single window interface over transmission, as well as automatically continuing w/ my queue. It is missing "speed limits" that transmission has, and apparently doesn't like the port I mapped for BT. It also doesn't preprompt you with what you want to download (for selective downloading)

I'll use it for a little and see how it goes. One of the bigger things I didn't like about transmission was not properly dealing w/ selective downloads.
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I didn't like how no matter how hard I tried, i could not effectively limit it's upload speed. On my home connection, I have to limit my upload speed so as not to bring web browsing across the house to a crawl. I limit Transmission to 20KB/s and that works pretty well actually. On uTorrent on Windows (I do not remember what version) I set the limit at the same value, and it constantly passed it. So, at one point I told it not to upload at all, although it did not appear to upload, my internet connection was slow as all get out.

In what way do you find its file management superior? I put a .torrent into Transmission, it downloads to where I tell it to download it to. Maybe I am missing something, or straight up don't care, but for me Transmission does a great job.

Though the latest version has been throwing up these weird HTTP 0 errors that it never did before... so not sure what is up with that.

When I get my Hack up and running, i will pt uTorrent on there, give it a whirl.
 
I might give this a shot. uTorrent worked really well a while back when I was using my old desktop for remote torrenting. The web UI was pretty sweet and everything went smoothly.
 
Originally posted by: TheStu
I didn't like how no matter how hard I tried, i could not effectively limit it's upload speed. On my home connection, I have to limit my upload speed so as not to bring web browsing across the house to a crawl. I limit Transmission to 20KB/s and that works pretty well actually. On uTorrent on Windows (I do not remember what version) I set the limit at the same value, and it constantly passed it. So, at one point I told it not to upload at all, although it did not appear to upload, my internet connection was slow as all get out.
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never had that issue. utorrent's caps worked great for me.
In what way do you find its file management superior? I put a .torrent into Transmission, it downloads to where I tell it to download it to. Maybe I am missing something, or straight up don't care, but for me Transmission does a great job.
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Well, in file management, specifically I was talking about multipart torrents at the end of my comment. uTorrent would only download what I preselect. (and I think gave me the option to pre-reserve the space too). Transmission did finally start doing this.. but I've found it still reserves space automatically for the other non-selected files sometimes. No idea why.

As for the mac uTorrent... I miss the pre-prompting of what files to download, and the ability to have a "temp" download space and then move it when it's done. Probably missing because of it being an early beta, but hope they didn't just ditch it.
 
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: TheStu
I didn't like how no matter how hard I tried, i could not effectively limit it's upload speed. On my home connection, I have to limit my upload speed so as not to bring web browsing across the house to a crawl. I limit Transmission to 20KB/s and that works pretty well actually. On uTorrent on Windows (I do not remember what version) I set the limit at the same value, and it constantly passed it. So, at one point I told it not to upload at all, although it did not appear to upload, my internet connection was slow as all get out.
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never had that issue. utorrent's caps worked great for me.
In what way do you find its file management superior? I put a .torrent into Transmission, it downloads to where I tell it to download it to. Maybe I am missing something, or straight up don't care, but for me Transmission does a great job.
Click to expand...
Well, in file management, specifically I was talking about multipart torrents at the end of my comment. uTorrent would only download what I preselect. (and I think gave me the option to pre-reserve the space too). Transmission did finally start doing this.. but I've found it still reserves space automatically for the other non-selected files sometimes. No idea why.

As for the mac uTorrent... I miss the pre-prompting of what files to download, and the ability to have a "temp" download space and then move it when it's done. Probably missing because of it being an early beta, but hope they didn't just ditch it.
Click to expand...

What I have found with Transmission regarding multi-part torrents is this; Let us say I am downloading about 30GB or so worth of 'data' across, 100 files. If I really only need 50 of them, then I will only select that 50. So, Transmission pre-allocates 15GB of space on my drive in the folder ~/Users/enoch/Downloads/Torrents/30GB of 'Data' Folder.

However, if while downloading this, someone who is uploading it to me happens to have even the teensiest piece of one of the files I didn't want get attached to it, then that file gets allocated as well, even though it is not selected. I find the behavior annoying, just as you do, thank you for clarifying what you were referring to. I do understand why it happens, and I also know that if I simply delete the mostly empty file then I will get all of the space back, but it is annoying. Are you saying that uTorrent is somehow free from this behavior? And if yes, do you have any idea why it might be?
 
Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: TheStu
I didn't like how no matter how hard I tried, i could not effectively limit it's upload speed. On my home connection, I have to limit my upload speed so as not to bring web browsing across the house to a crawl. I limit Transmission to 20KB/s and that works pretty well actually. On uTorrent on Windows (I do not remember what version) I set the limit at the same value, and it constantly passed it. So, at one point I told it not to upload at all, although it did not appear to upload, my internet connection was slow as all get out.
Click to expand...
never had that issue. utorrent's caps worked great for me.
In what way do you find its file management superior? I put a .torrent into Transmission, it downloads to where I tell it to download it to. Maybe I am missing something, or straight up don't care, but for me Transmission does a great job.
Click to expand...
Well, in file management, specifically I was talking about multipart torrents at the end of my comment. uTorrent would only download what I preselect. (and I think gave me the option to pre-reserve the space too). Transmission did finally start doing this.. but I've found it still reserves space automatically for the other non-selected files sometimes. No idea why.

As for the mac uTorrent... I miss the pre-prompting of what files to download, and the ability to have a "temp" download space and then move it when it's done. Probably missing because of it being an early beta, but hope they didn't just ditch it.
Click to expand...

What I have found with Transmission regarding multi-part torrents is this; Let us say I am downloading about 30GB or so worth of 'data' across, 100 files. If I really only need 50 of them, then I will only select that 50. So, Transmission pre-allocates 15GB of space on my drive in the folder ~/Users/enoch/Downloads/Torrents/30GB of 'Data' Folder.

However, if while downloading this, someone who is uploading it to me happens to have even the teensiest piece of one of the files I didn't want get attached to it, then that file gets allocated as well, even though it is not selected. I find the behavior annoying, just as you do, thank you for clarifying what you were referring to. I do understand why it happens, and I also know that if I simply delete the mostly empty file then I will get all of the space back, but it is annoying. Are you saying that uTorrent is somehow free from this behavior? And if yes, do you have any idea why it might be?
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I have no idea why, but utorrent on windows is free of this behavior as far as I can tell. on mac, I haven't noticed it yet. Though, I have not monitored any cache folders yet.

the other nice tidbit I like from utorrent is everything is in one window (basically the info pane). But the program still has a bit to go I think to match it's windows counterpart. I'll probably stick w/ transmission for the time being.
 
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: TheStu
I didn't like how no matter how hard I tried, i could not effectively limit it's upload speed. On my home connection, I have to limit my upload speed so as not to bring web browsing across the house to a crawl. I limit Transmission to 20KB/s and that works pretty well actually. On uTorrent on Windows (I do not remember what version) I set the limit at the same value, and it constantly passed it. So, at one point I told it not to upload at all, although it did not appear to upload, my internet connection was slow as all get out.
Click to expand...
never had that issue. utorrent's caps worked great for me.
In what way do you find its file management superior? I put a .torrent into Transmission, it downloads to where I tell it to download it to. Maybe I am missing something, or straight up don't care, but for me Transmission does a great job.
Click to expand...
Well, in file management, specifically I was talking about multipart torrents at the end of my comment. uTorrent would only download what I preselect. (and I think gave me the option to pre-reserve the space too). Transmission did finally start doing this.. but I've found it still reserves space automatically for the other non-selected files sometimes. No idea why.

As for the mac uTorrent... I miss the pre-prompting of what files to download, and the ability to have a "temp" download space and then move it when it's done. Probably missing because of it being an early beta, but hope they didn't just ditch it.
Click to expand...

What I have found with Transmission regarding multi-part torrents is this; Let us say I am downloading about 30GB or so worth of 'data' across, 100 files. If I really only need 50 of them, then I will only select that 50. So, Transmission pre-allocates 15GB of space on my drive in the folder ~/Users/enoch/Downloads/Torrents/30GB of 'Data' Folder.

However, if while downloading this, someone who is uploading it to me happens to have even the teensiest piece of one of the files I didn't want get attached to it, then that file gets allocated as well, even though it is not selected. I find the behavior annoying, just as you do, thank you for clarifying what you were referring to. I do understand why it happens, and I also know that if I simply delete the mostly empty file then I will get all of the space back, but it is annoying. Are you saying that uTorrent is somehow free from this behavior? And if yes, do you have any idea why it might be?
Click to expand...

I have no idea why, but utorrent on windows is free of this behavior as far as I can tell. on mac, I haven't noticed it yet. Though, I have not monitored any cache folders yet.

the other nice tidbit I like from utorrent is everything is in one window (basically the info pane). But the program still has a bit to go I think to match it's windows counterpart. I'll probably stick w/ transmission for the time being.
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I wonder if the reason uTorrent on Windows doesn't exhibit the same behavior because they simply didn't design it to. On OS X, it is best to pre-allocate since that helps the file system with regard to fragmentation. On Windows, since the OS has a built in defragger and users turn to that to solve problems, maybe the uTorrent devs a: don't care or b: cannot easily have it pre-allocate.

It is entirely possible that on OS X the files have to be pre-allocated.
 
There's something odd w/ utorrent I've noticed. I do have the latest beta. Torrent files are not deleted even tho I have that option checked, they just get appended ".import". Also, it continually seems to cause my system to think it's running out of space, but I have 50GB free. And thus, it won't try to complete the torrent.

 
The one thing I noticed as soon as I tried it out is it doesn't show your upload/download speed in the dock icon. That was one of my favorite features of Transmission.
 
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