IF the US were really becoming a socialist country, the only issue would be whether 1) you want to try to play by the rules of the game or 2) if you wanted to be part of the black market. What fans of regulation don't understand is you can't hide the market. You can muck it up but it stays around.
It's a problem for the discussion to try to debate the hypothetical of what other countries would be like with different political orientations, expeially when there are other differences with the US that affect their situations. It seems more useful to me to discuss how different policies have worked in US history, when more direct comparisons can be made, with the same people, resources, etc. and only the policies changing.
I'd be more than happy to refer you to some good reading on that topic.
I say you should do the dreadful, anti-american thing that some people participate in - thinking
It's not the same people and resource if you are talking about period that's 100 years apart. (or even just 25, 50 years apart)
All I want to know is why are you complaining? What's the problem with the US compared to other countries? I have seen news of suicides in many developed Asian countries (Korea, Taiwan...etc) because people lost their job or heavy into debt. US has much better safty nets compare to many countries already while still achiving high GDP and low unemployment rate.
And I have been to many countries, and not many countries where fireman, postman, bus drivers (job don't require elite edcuation) can earn a good salary. In fact, just take postman for example, US Postman salary is one of the highest compare to Postman in other countries.
source: http://www.worldsalaries.org/postman.shtml
What else do you want, more left leaning to give people perfect social net regardless of the cost? Or regardless of taking incentive away for people to work?
What human flaws, the fact you act worthlessly because you feel that way? Not to worry. In time the self hate bred into us by our competitive system will fade away. Socialism isn't about force or idealism or dreams. It's about how you are when you love.
Naa, it's not about acting worthless, but precisely my love for myself, my kids, and everyone in my family. My earning and other fruit of my labor is not unlimited and because of this love for myself and those I love, I need to keep it to myself as much as possible. Sure helping others and solve others misery is all nice and peachy but that's not gonna help my kid if I cannot afford a nice education for them or my parents if they don't get the healthcare they deserve.
True - and I wish he was. He's a cultural neo-Marxist much closer to Third World communism (like Van Jones admitted he was) than European socialism.
As an African writer L.E. Ikenga wrote:
"My friends, despite what CNN and the rest are telling you, Barack Obama is nothing more than an old school African Colonial who is on his way to turning this country into one of the developing nations that you learn about on the National Geographic Channel. Many conservative (East, West, South, North) African-Americans like myself -- those of us who know our history -- have seen this movie before...
The African colonial (AC) is a person who by means of their birth or lineage has a direct connection with Africa. However, unlike Africans like me, their worldviews have been largely shaped not by the indigenous beliefs of a specific African tribe but by the ideals of the European imperialism that overwhelmed and dominated Africa during the colonial period. AC's have no real regard for their specific African traditions or histories. AC's use aspects of their African culture as one would use pieces of costume jewelry: things of little or no value that can be thoughtlessly discarded when they become a negative distraction, or used on a whim to decorate oneself in order to seem exotic. (Hint: Obama's Muslim heritage)...
On the other hand, AC's strive to be the best at the culture that they inherited from Europe. Throughout the West, they are tops in their professions as lawyers, doctors, engineers, Ivy League professors and business moguls; this is all well and good. It's when they decide to engage us as politicians that things become messy and convoluted.
The African colonial politician (ACP) feigns repulsion towards the hegemonic paradigms of Western civilization. But at the same time, he is completely enamored of the trappings of its aristocracy or elite culture. The ACP blames and caricatures whitey to no end for all that has gone wrong in the world. He convinces the masses that various forms of African socialism are the best way for redressing the problems that European colonialism motivated in Africa. However, as opposed to really being a hard-core African Leftist who actually believes in something, the ACP uses socialist themes as a way to disguise his true ambitions: a complete power grab whereby the "will of the people" becomes completely irrelevant.
Barack Obama is all of the above. The only difference is that he is here playing (colonial) African politics as usual."
Obama is taking US down the crapper on purpose.
http://www.americanthinker.com..._african_colonial.html
correcting lazy typing makes your argument more legit.
continue with this manner of posting, its sure to work out well for you.
i have a feeling that you are not much of a contributor yourself. when are you going to get off welfare again?
are we talking western europe market based socialism, or silly eastblock socialism.
one of those works pretty well, the other, not so much
/yawn
Thus far this administration has implemented less socialism than GWB did.
Granted they still have at least three years to change that, but do you really see much happening right now to get yourself all worked up over?
Thus far this administration has implemented less socialism than GWB did.
Granted they still have at least three years to change that, but do you really see much happening right now to get yourself all worked up over?
You worry about you and your own precisely because there is no socialism. You have been programmed to think only of yourself because you are all alone. In a socialist environment your family won't have to depend just on you.
The left are the ones that are always trying to change the greatest country in the world. If you don't like it so much why don't YOU leave instead of fucking it up for all the people that can actually compete in a free society? There are plenty of countries in the world that are closer to what you to want. Sure seems a hell of a lot easier.
Oh really? So they can depend on the government or some dear leader? haha, no thanks. Plus the last time I checked, best schools and doctors are in Capitalist countries, and I do just fine living in the capitalist countries with opportunity to put my kids to best schools and provide my family the best cares, because I work harder and have better education/skills than the most.
So no thank you to mediocrity for my family so everyone is "taken care of"
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