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The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: quasarsky
usps should stop whining. they make enough off stamps as it is

What a stupid comment. How about you drive your letter across the country.

email moron. well email until they start taxing that :roll:

Ok, YOU have to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen post on here. Email IS the reason they have to charge so much for postage. If they are to stay in business, which I am guessing you don't have a clue what would happen if they went under, they have to charge what they have to charge. You seem to forget they aren't a for profit company, none of that money from stamps is lining anyone's pockets, in fact it doesn't even cover all the budget, which is why the Federal Gov has to subsidize them as well.


usps - united states postal service

gee no wonder they are subsidized lmao. email is not the reason they charge so much for stamps.

increase #1 link
link 2

they also raised the price for overnight shipping. now, email can't send you a package like weighs a few pounds. they say email caused them to increase the price, yet, how does email compete with sending packages overnight? i know there is the papers you might have to send overnight for a deadline etc. but if you don't plan it out to get whatever you have in a timely manner, then i don't feel sorry for someone paying more than $14 for overnight shipping. postage was $.33 cents prior to 1999. when did email start becoming voluminus enough to eat at usps sales?

It has teken time for email to eat away at their revenue, but think about it; I know that MIGHT be a stretch considering the comments earlier in this thread, but give it a try. The only way people had to correspond before email was regular USPS mail and the phone. Long distance before VOIP was WAY to expensive for regular use for most people, so guess what they used the good old postal service to get their letters, birthday cards, etc to their loved ones. However, now that you have ecards, email, IM, VOIP, etc. This cuts into the number of people using the postal service GREATLY. That is why some postage, particularly stamps, have gone up. The reason other postage has gone up is because of competition from places like UPS and Fedex who are not Goverment institutions and therefore can pay their employees less and have less benefits etc.

i agree with you but there are still lines at the post office. i would say there is room for usps, ups, fedex, email, voip etc, for all to exist successfully. i would say, perhaps the increase is like anything else, gas, etc, adjusted for inflation?
 

Glavinsolo

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Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: quasarsky
usps should stop whining. they make enough off stamps as it is

What a stupid comment. How about you drive your letter across the country.

email moron. well email until they start taxing that :roll:

Ok, YOU have to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen post on here. Email IS the reason they have to charge so much for postage. If they are to stay in business, which I am guessing you don't have a clue what would happen if they went under, they have to charge what they have to charge. You seem to forget they aren't a for profit company, none of that money from stamps is lining anyone's pockets, in fact it doesn't even cover all the budget, which is why the Federal Gov has to subsidize them as well.


usps - united states postal service

gee no wonder they are subsidized lmao. email is not the reason they charge so much for stamps.

increase #1 link
link 2

they also raised the price for overnight shipping. now, email can't send you a package like weighs a few pounds. they say email caused them to increase the price, yet, how does email compete with sending packages overnight? i know there is the papers you might have to send overnight for a deadline etc. but if you don't plan it out to get whatever you have in a timely manner, then i don't feel sorry for someone paying more than $14 for overnight shipping. postage was $.33 cents prior to 1999. when did email start becoming voluminus enough to eat at usps sales?

It has teken time for email to eat away at their revenue, but think about it; I know that MIGHT be a stretch considering the comments earlier in this thread, but give it a try. The only way people had to correspond before email was regular USPS mail and the phone. Long distance before VOIP was WAY to expensive for regular use for most people, so guess what they used the good old postal service to get their letters, birthday cards, etc to their loved ones. However, now that you have ecards, email, IM, VOIP, etc. This cuts into the number of people using the postal service GREATLY. That is why some postage, particularly stamps, have gone up. The reason other postage has gone up is because of competition from places like UPS and Fedex who are not Goverment institutions and therefore can pay their employees less and have less benefits etc.

You seem to know a bit on the subject. I heard a while back that the government was going to cut them off and have them as their own company for profit.
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: quasarsky
usps should stop whining. they make enough off stamps as it is

What a stupid comment. How about you drive your letter across the country.

email moron. well email until they start taxing that :roll:

Ok, YOU have to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen post on here. Email IS the reason they have to charge so much for postage. If they are to stay in business, which I am guessing you don't have a clue what would happen if they went under, they have to charge what they have to charge. You seem to forget they aren't a for profit company, none of that money from stamps is lining anyone's pockets, in fact it doesn't even cover all the budget, which is why the Federal Gov has to subsidize them as well.


usps - united states postal service

gee no wonder they are subsidized lmao. email is not the reason they charge so much for stamps.

increase #1 link
link 2

they also raised the price for overnight shipping. now, email can't send you a package like weighs a few pounds. they say email caused them to increase the price, yet, how does email compete with sending packages overnight? i know there is the papers you might have to send overnight for a deadline etc. but if you don't plan it out to get whatever you have in a timely manner, then i don't feel sorry for someone paying more than $14 for overnight shipping. postage was $.33 cents prior to 1999. when did email start becoming voluminus enough to eat at usps sales?

It has teken time for email to eat away at their revenue, but think about it; I know that MIGHT be a stretch considering the comments earlier in this thread, but give it a try. The only way people had to correspond before email was regular USPS mail and the phone. Long distance before VOIP was WAY to expensive for regular use for most people, so guess what they used the good old postal service to get their letters, birthday cards, etc to their loved ones. However, now that you have ecards, email, IM, VOIP, etc. This cuts into the number of people using the postal service GREATLY. That is why some postage, particularly stamps, have gone up. The reason other postage has gone up is because of competition from places like UPS and Fedex who are not Goverment institutions and therefore can pay their employees less and have less benefits etc.

You seem to know a bit on the subject. I heard a while back that the government was going to cut them off and have them as their own company for profit.

which company? ups, fedex, voip, all, or just one in particular?
 

Glavinsolo

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USPS, the government was in talks to cut them off and have them turn a profit on their own as a private company
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
USPS, the government was in talks to cut them off and have them turn a profit on their own as a private company

ah. that sounds interesting. i wonder why they haven't done it yet? i bet its still in committee or something similar perhaps?
 

GrammatonJP

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Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
I take about 5-6 classes a semester and that generates about 6-10 books I need to sell at the end. The last 7 times I or my fiancée have gone to ship our books the usps clerks have had it out for us or media mail shippers in general. They get upset and tell us there had better not be any correspondence in this package. Or, we are going to open this after you leave. Or, Media Mail is not for sales it is only for library use. Or, this doesn't feel like a book are you sure there isn?t some other item in there.

Thats funny.. the people here (CT) are much nicer.. they recommend people to ship items media mail to save $$$, some people ships books first classl but the clerks say use media... maybe its the bulk size of all the books combined...
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: quasarsky
usps should stop whining. they make enough off stamps as it is

What a stupid comment. How about you drive your letter across the country.

how about u stop trolling my posts?

"ok"

thanks :thumbsup:

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... :roll:

i guess you lack reason along with mx2times lol :laugh:

Seriously, WTF does lacking reason have to do with my statement? Are you seriously that stupid?
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: quasarsky
usps should stop whining. they make enough off stamps as it is

What a stupid comment. How about you drive your letter across the country.

how about u stop trolling my posts?

"ok"

thanks :thumbsup:

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... :roll:

i guess you lack reason along with mx2times lol :laugh:

Seriously, WTF does lacking reason have to do with my statement? Are you seriously that stupid?

thanks for confirming my post about your lack of reason :) ;)
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: quasarsky
usps should stop whining. they make enough off stamps as it is

What a stupid comment. How about you drive your letter across the country.

how about u stop trolling my posts?

"ok"

thanks :thumbsup:

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... :roll:

i guess you lack reason along with mx2times lol :laugh:

Seriously, WTF does lacking reason have to do with my statement? Are you seriously that stupid?

thanks for confirming my post about your lack of reason :) ;)

You still don't get it. You tell others to stop trolling your threads, but you do it to everyone else.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Its intent was for media to be sent for non profit purposes (library to library, for instance). It was never really made to ship 10 pound books. That is what parcel post is for.
USPS on Media mail:
Media Mail? 70 lbs or less
Small and large packages and thick envelopes can be sent using Media Mail. Contents are limited to books, manuscripts, sound recordings, recorded videotapes, and computer-readable media (not blank). Informally called "Book Rate," Media Mail cannot contain advertising, except eligible books may contain incidental announcements of books. Media Mail is usually less expensive than Parcel Post.
It says nothing about non-profit. It specifically says 70lbs. It specifically mentions books.

USPS again
Media Mail® service is a cost efficient way to mail books, sound recordings, recorded video tapes, printed music, and recorded computer-readable media (such as CDs, DVDs, and diskettes). Media Mail can not contain advertising except for incidental announcements of books. The maximum weight for Media Mail is 70 lbs.
Hmm, again nothing about non-profit, it says up to 70 lbs, and it says it is designed for books and DVDs.

 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Its intent was for media to be sent for non profit purposes (library to library, for instance). It was never really made to ship 10 pound books. That is what parcel post is for.
USPS on Media mail:
Media Mail? 70 lbs or less
Small and large packages and thick envelopes can be sent using Media Mail. Contents are limited to books, manuscripts, sound recordings, recorded videotapes, and computer-readable media (not blank). Informally called "Book Rate," Media Mail cannot contain advertising, except eligible books may contain incidental announcements of books. Media Mail is usually less expensive than Parcel Post.
It says nothing about non-profit. It specifically says 70lbs. It specifically mentions books.

USPS again
Media Mail® service is a cost efficient way to mail books, sound recordings, recorded video tapes, printed music, and recorded computer-readable media (such as CDs, DVDs, and diskettes). Media Mail can not contain advertising except for incidental announcements of books. The maximum weight for Media Mail is 70 lbs.
Hmm, again nothing about non-profit, it says up to 70 lbs, and it says it is designed for books and DVDs.

:thumbsup:

I've been selling books and using media mail for 5 semesters now. Never been questioned.
 

Shaftatplanetquake

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Originally posted by: quasarsky


which company? ups, fedex, voip, all, or just one in particular?

UPS and Fedex are already their own independent companies for proffit. VOIP is a technology that many companies are making proffits off of.

The US Gov has talked about spinning off the postal service into the private sector for years and years. The postal service has even been able to do a few things that are more independent than what normal Gov agencies have done, such as allowing Fedex drop posts and advertisements inside and right outside of their offices. They have also been repeatedly sued by Fedex and UPS and have been basically screwed in court time and time again; because the entity that is the postal service has not really been in control of its own moves and decisions.

Spinning off the postal service would be the worst move the Fed Gov could make for US consumers. As it is, the majority of post offices lose money year after year, because it is very expensive to employ the high wage postal carriers which are deployed in high number for massive square mileage in rural areas where customers are few and far between and do not spend much money themselves on postage. Also, for the longest time, and maybe still today(not sure), the postal service did not charge any more money for ANY shipping option (priority, parcel, media, overnight, express, etc) to Anchorage or Honolulu or say NY, NY. Whenever the post office tries to change its rates then fedex/ups sues them. If the post office becomes a company that controls itself, WHAM----- recipients start paying delivery fees. Rural money losing offices get shut down and you have to drive 80 miles to put something in the mail. A majorly Tiered system for pricing emerges depending on where you want to ship your items to. Prices will at least double on stamps. Wages for the employees will drop much lower (which is arguably appropriate, carriers generally make too much money for what they do).
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: GrammatonJP
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
I take about 5-6 classes a semester and that generates about 6-10 books I need to sell at the end. The last 7 times I or my fiancée have gone to ship our books the usps clerks have had it out for us or media mail shippers in general. They get upset and tell us there had better not be any correspondence in this package. Or, we are going to open this after you leave. Or, Media Mail is not for sales it is only for library use. Or, this doesn't feel like a book are you sure there isn?t some other item in there.

Thats funny.. the people here (CT) are much nicer.. they recommend people to ship items media mail to save $$$, some people ships books first classl but the clerks say use media... maybe its the bulk size of all the books combined...

It just depends on the post office. My local post office (town of 60,000) is mostly nice people. One of the clerks isn't that way. She seems to think everyone is trying to steal something. She thoguht I was cashing a stolen money order because it came from out of state. One of my friends who went in (I had never said anything about the woman) was accused of trying to fake stamps by the same person. Everyone else there is nice though.
 

Glavinsolo

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Its intent was for media to be sent for non profit purposes (library to library, for instance). It was never really made to ship 10 pound books. That is what parcel post is for.
USPS on Media mail:
Media Mail? 70 lbs or less
Small and large packages and thick envelopes can be sent using Media Mail. Contents are limited to books, manuscripts, sound recordings, recorded videotapes, and computer-readable media (not blank). Informally called "Book Rate," Media Mail cannot contain advertising, except eligible books may contain incidental announcements of books. Media Mail is usually less expensive than Parcel Post.
It says nothing about non-profit. It specifically says 70lbs. It specifically mentions books.

USPS again
Media Mail® service is a cost efficient way to mail books, sound recordings, recorded video tapes, printed music, and recorded computer-readable media (such as CDs, DVDs, and diskettes). Media Mail can not contain advertising except for incidental announcements of books. The maximum weight for Media Mail is 70 lbs.
Hmm, again nothing about non-profit, it says up to 70 lbs, and it says it is designed for books and DVDs.

Yeah In the 4 years I have been going to school I have never had as much of an issue as I am now. It was a switch from the day before to the next day it seemed. As if they got a message from HQ to start hassling shippers who ship using media mail and no services such as insurance etc.
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Originally posted by: quasarsky
usps should stop whining. they make enough off stamps as it is

What a stupid comment. How about you drive your letter across the country.

how about u stop trolling my posts?

"ok"

thanks :thumbsup:

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... :roll:

i guess you lack reason along with mx2times lol :laugh:

Seriously, WTF does lacking reason have to do with my statement? Are you seriously that stupid?

thanks for confirming my post about your lack of reason :) ;)

You still don't get it. You tell others to stop trolling your threads, but you do it to everyone else.

i'm sorry but is this your thread? didn't you troll my comment here *first*? and i don't have a problem with the original poster. i was just saying usps shouldn't charge so much for stamps. get a life travis. geez lol
 

pulsedrive

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
USPS, the government was in talks to cut them off and have them turn a profit on their own as a private company

ah. that sounds interesting. i wonder why they haven't done it yet? i bet its still in committee or something similar perhaps?

No the reason it hasn't happened is that, if you prices are bad now, wait till they have to run themselves without federal help. There is no where else you can send a letter for 37 cents. Every try sending correspondence through Fedex or UPS, they charge an arm and a leg for it. That is what keeps people coming to the USPS is cheap letters for when you need to pay bills, etc. But even there, the internet is slowly eating away at them through online bill pay, etc. Simple letters is the only thing that USPS really does that much cheaper than the other two bigs ones. Which is why you see stamp prices rising constantly.
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
USPS, the government was in talks to cut them off and have them turn a profit on their own as a private company

ah. that sounds interesting. i wonder why they haven't done it yet? i bet its still in committee or something similar perhaps?

No the reason it hasn't happened is that, if you prices are bad now, wait till they have to run themselves without federal help. There is no where else you can send a letter for 37 cents. Every try sending correspondence through Fedex or UPS, they charge an arm and a leg for it. That is what keeps people coming to the USPS is cheap letters for when you need to pay bills, etc. But even there, the internet is slowly eating away at them through online bill pay, etc. Simple letters is the only thing that USPS really does that much cheaper than the other two bigs ones. Which is why you see stamp prices rising constantly.

ah. well that makes sense. i wonder how much stamps will cost in 5 years.
 

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Originally posted by: pulsedrive

It has teken time for email to eat away at their revenue, but think about it; I know that MIGHT be a stretch considering the comments earlier in this thread, but give it a try. The only way people had to correspond before email was regular USPS mail and the phone. Long distance before VOIP was WAY to expensive for regular use for most people, so guess what they used the good old postal service to get their letters, birthday cards, etc to their loved ones. However, now that you have ecards, email, IM, VOIP, etc. This cuts into the number of people using the postal service GREATLY. That is why some postage, particularly stamps, have gone up. The reason other postage has gone up is because of competition from places like UPS and Fedex who are not Goverment institutions and therefore can pay their employees less and have less benefits etc.

Plus, I believe that they make a *small* profit on mailing a letter...a nickel, tops, and that used to subsidise packages, but as volume of letters dropped (e-mail, et. al) they had to jack up mail prices. That with rising fuel costs, and the fact that with less letters, the economies of scale drop of *somewhat* they're facing a good bit of pressure.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
i was just saying usps shouldn't charge so much for stamps. get a life travis. geez lol
Why shouldn't they charge so much?

Lets look at inflation numbers: source..
[*]April 1999: 166.2
[*]April 2006: 201.5
Inflation in the last 7 years: 201.5/166.2 = 1.212

[*]Stamps in 1999: 33 cents
[*]Stamps adjusted by inflation: 33 cents * 1.212 = 40 cents.

Thus stamps now at 39 cents went up LESS than inflation.
 

Glavinsolo

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
USPS, the government was in talks to cut them off and have them turn a profit on their own as a private company

ah. that sounds interesting. i wonder why they haven't done it yet? i bet its still in committee or something similar perhaps?

No the reason it hasn't happened is that, if you prices are bad now, wait till they have to run themselves without federal help. There is no where else you can send a letter for 37 cents. Every try sending correspondence through Fedex or UPS, they charge an arm and a leg for it. That is what keeps people coming to the USPS is cheap letters for when you need to pay bills, etc. But even there, the internet is slowly eating away at them through online bill pay, etc. Simple letters is the only thing that USPS really does that much cheaper than the other two bigs ones. Which is why you see stamp prices rising constantly.

ah. well that makes sense. i wonder how much stamps will cost in 5 years.

>$1.50
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Its intent was for media to be sent for non profit purposes (library to library, for instance). It was never really made to ship 10 pound books. That is what parcel post is for.
USPS on Media mail:
Media Mail? 70 lbs or less
Small and large packages and thick envelopes can be sent using Media Mail. Contents are limited to books, manuscripts, sound recordings, recorded videotapes, and computer-readable media (not blank). Informally called "Book Rate," Media Mail cannot contain advertising, except eligible books may contain incidental announcements of books. Media Mail is usually less expensive than Parcel Post.
It says nothing about non-profit. It specifically says 70lbs. It specifically mentions books.

USPS again
Media Mail® service is a cost efficient way to mail books, sound recordings, recorded video tapes, printed music, and recorded computer-readable media (such as CDs, DVDs, and diskettes). Media Mail can not contain advertising except for incidental announcements of books. The maximum weight for Media Mail is 70 lbs.
Hmm, again nothing about non-profit, it says up to 70 lbs, and it says it is designed for books and DVDs.

Wow, a good post after the troll fest. The OP should print that stuff out and just take it with him every time he goes to the post office and say, "STFU and do your easy, overpaid job!!!"
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
USPS, the government was in talks to cut them off and have them turn a profit on their own as a private company

ah. that sounds interesting. i wonder why they haven't done it yet? i bet its still in committee or something similar perhaps?

No the reason it hasn't happened is that, if you prices are bad now, wait till they have to run themselves without federal help. There is no where else you can send a letter for 37 cents. Every try sending correspondence through Fedex or UPS, they charge an arm and a leg for it. That is what keeps people coming to the USPS is cheap letters for when you need to pay bills, etc. But even there, the internet is slowly eating away at them through online bill pay, etc. Simple letters is the only thing that USPS really does that much cheaper than the other two bigs ones. Which is why you see stamp prices rising constantly.

ah. well that makes sense. i wonder how much stamps will cost in 5 years.

>$1.50

ouch
 

Shaftatplanetquake

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Originally posted by: preslove
Wow, a good post after the troll fest. The OP should print that stuff out and just take it with him every time he goes to the post office and say, "STFU and do your easy, overpaid job!!!"

Agreed. About 40% of the postal clerks in South Carolina are head cases. But also, about 40% of the population of South Carolina are head cases. What is my point, you ask?