Using the Directions Messed Me Up!!

[cpals]

Ok... I installed my new 1.4 Thunderbird w/GW WBK38 a week ago with some ASII. The temps were pretty good ranging from 42-43 idle and maxing out at 50c.

A couple days ago I was reading that there was a "proper" way of using ASII and so I decided to reapply it and see what happened. I went through the steps and now my temps are 44-45c idle... why the increase in temps??

Could I have scratched my heatsink? I couldn't get all of the ASII off of the sides of the cpu and also the heatsink (discolored a little), but didn't think that would matter much.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Tetsuo316]

a degree or two won't matter considering that the thermometer isn't in the correct place to record temps, and secondly, it just doesn't matter as long as it's as not overheating. if you want, reapply the asii the old way and see what happens.

edit: yes you could have scratched your heatsink, or the goop could have gotten down into the poors on the hs. you could always lap your heatsink to get a "perfect" surface.

 

[phatstyl]

maybe you put too much on?

 

[clumsum]

cpals,

Try some Vaseline to clean off the Artic Silver II from your heatsink and cpu, ........ then clean off all the vaseline with fingernail polish remover or some other good solvent, ...... don't use any more than necessary as you don't want to take any chances with the cpu...........or pads.

 

[cpals]

<< maybe you put too much on? >>



The first time I had put on a lot and when I took the heatsink off it was all goopy on the sides of the process and had squished out. The second time I just used a thin layer like suggested.

*You say lap the heatsink... I know this means to make it flat and shiny again, but how is the best way to do it? Sandpaper?

Thanks.

 

[cpals]

<< cpals,

Try some Vaseline to clean off the Artic Silver II from your heatsink and cpu, ........ then clean off all the vaseline with fingernail polish remover or some other good solvent, ...... don't use any more than necessary as you don't want to take any chances with the cpu...........or pads. >>



I used alcohol the first time and when I was using it I was scared that I would fry something if too much alcohol got on the chip. Is it ok when cleaning the chip to go over everything? Is there any way to completely get off ASII from the cpu chip (even on the sides and not on the chip)?

Thanks.

 

[Egrimm]

Use sandpaper made for metal to lap the hsf, that's what I and everybody I've heard about have used, if you spend a little time doing it you should be able to get a mirror-like finish.

 

[cpals]

On the GW WBK38 it has a small copper square in the middle.... will sandpapering it hurt it any?

Is there an easier way of connecting the heatsink to the cpu? I have to use so much force I think I'm going to break the cpu when I try and press down on the clip. It's also a pain to take off the heatsink.

 

[Tetsuo316]

welcome to the world of installing an amd hs/fan combo. it takes a lot of force to get that retention clip down, and there's no way around it... unless you get one of those monster heatsinks that screw down into the motherboard and forego the clamps altogether. i forget which one is like that, but it is HUGE.

 

[Avalanche007]

See real men dont need instructions You had it right the first time.

 

[cpals]

<< See real men dont need instructions You had it right the first time. >>



Hehe, funny. Indeed I did.

Today I bought some steel wool from my local WalMart... should this work fine for doing the heatsink?

Thanks.

 

[cpals]

Update!!

Finished scrubbing my heatsink with the steel wool till it was nice and shiny. Rubbed the heatsink with ASII then rubbed it off... then put a thin coat of ASII onto the cpu chip and put everything back together.

I am happy to say that my computer is now idling at 41-42c currently. It's even better than before!! woohoo.

Thanks for everyone's help.

Couple Questions:

1. Does it make a difference if I use steel wool or sandpaper? I thought steel wool was more appropriate.

2. On the GW WBK38 it came with a copper square on the bottom... it is now gone. Did it rub off? Does it matter that I don't have it?

3. The fan on the WBK38 (Delta) is really loud. I'm kind of used to it now, but is there an alternative that is just as good (or better) that is quieter?

Thanks.

 

[SilverThief]

Damn the instructions.
Theyre always confusing as hell, and written in 27 different languages anyways!

 

[cpals]

<< Damn the instructions.
Theyre always confusing as hell, and written in 27 different languages anyways! >>



Any answers to my last questions?

 

[SonofVengeance]

ok... answers to last two questions.. And possibly some insight.

When Lapping a heatsink, first thing you want to do is get it perfectly straight. The best way to do this is to place a piece of sandpaper on a flat surface and sand it. The steel wool is great for for getting that surface super super smooth afterwards... but it wont do much for a slightly warped heatsink. Most likely your heatsink is not warped/cupped or anything of that nature judging by your temps. BTW i have actually machined heads for an automobile by taping sandpaper to a piece of glass to ensure a perfect straight finish. {amazing what they used to show you in mags like car craft}

Copper transfers heat better than aluminum.... which is why some manufacturers make copper heatsinks or have copper inserts in their heatsinks. If you actually polished off a copper plating with steel wool it was way too thin to have made any significant increases in thermal transfer. So don't worry about it. : )

 

[cpals]

Cool. Thanks for the info. Yeah, I don't think that the heatsink was warped or anything, just a little dirty from the last install and the wool made it real shiny.

Yeah, the copper wasn't even there after the first time and I didn't even use and wool or sandpaper, just alcohol. Weird. It seems cool now anyways. Maybe I should look into a copper heatsink... who knows.

Any ideas about fans? Is there a better one with less noise?

Thanks again.

 

[cpals]

*bump* for #3 answer.

You know you want to help me.

 

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