Using my Windows XP cd on my other PC?

[oniq]

I recently got a brand new Compaq Presario with Windows XP Home, however, I didn't like it on my laptop so I threw Linux on it instead. On my desktop I've been running Windows 2000 and I want to use my Windows XP Home CD key with my PC. I know its possible to do so, but will I be prompted to call Microsoft or something because of the hardware change?

 

[cleverhandle]

Yes.

 

[IamDavid]

Just use the crack.. Its BS you can't use the OS you paid for..

** I'm not saying he should pirate any software or anything, he should just be able to use what is his. **

 

[Nothinman]

** I'm not saying he should pirate any software or anything, he should just be able to use what is his. **

Perhaps you don't know how software licensing works. He doesnt own anything except a license to use software owned by Microsoft, if he doesn't abide by the EULA his license is invalid.

 

[GonzoDaGr8]

According to the EULA, Your OEM copy that came with your laptop is tied to that laptop and cannot be used on any other machine..Stupid as hell, Yes, But that is the way it is. Sorry.:disgust:

 

[oniq]

Originally posted by: GonzoDaGr8
According to the EULA, Your OEM copy that came with your laptop is tied to that laptop and cannot be used on any other machine..Stupid as hell, Yes, But that is the way it is. Sorry.:disgust:

Bah! Okay, thanks for the info! Maybe Microsoft will get my hard earned buck then (AGAIN)

 

[alm4rr]

you know that refridgerator you bought? you don't own it... you just own the cold air it makes..... (yea and the refridgerator then dials its manufacturer and tells them the type of food you put in it, too)

 

[gwlam12]

Originally posted by: alm4rr
you know that refridgerator you bought? you don't own it... you just own the cold air it makes..... (yea and the refridgerator then dials its manufacturer and tells them the type of food you put in it, too)

that doesnt make sense.

 

[Nothinman]

you know that refridgerator you bought? you don't own it... you just own the cold air it makes..... (yea and the refridgerator then dials its manufacturer and tells them the type of food you put in it, too)

More like, you know that refrigerator you're renting? You only payed for the right to use it, you can't change the color, door, trays, etc and it has to stay in the place we put it.

It's not totally unreasonable, you pay MS for the right to use their software as long as you follow the rules they put in the EULA. If you don't like the EULA, don't use the software.

 

[alm4rr]

[ If you don't like the EULA, don't use the software.

remember, you are talking about a company that has been declared a monopoly. it's easy for the company to say that when they own the marketplace

 

[sak]

Hey just use a crack man...i dont know why suddenly everyone becomes a saint in the forums...you all know ppl in these forums use cracks for all kinda programs to work...and its not like the guy doesnt really know the answer...

i mean its kinda stupid that u buy a OS and u cant use it anywhere but one computer..its urs...use it

 

[Nothinman]

remember, you are talking about a company that has been declared a monopoly. it's easy for the company to say that when they own the marketplace

Many people get by just fine without Windows, it's not impossible. Hell get a Mac, OS X kicks XP's ass all over the place.

Hey just use a crack man...i dont know why suddenly everyone becomes a saint in the forums...you all know ppl in these forums use cracks for all kinda programs to work...and its not like the guy doesnt really know the answer...

Some of us do have morals and try to keep their software use legal.

i mean its kinda stupid that u buy a OS and u cant use it anywhere but one computer..its urs...use it

A) It's not your, it's Microsoft's. You only own the right to use it how MS says you can.
B) You agree'd to Microsoft's terms when you paid for it, if you don't like them don't pay for it.

 

[chemwiz]

It's not illegal to use an OS on a different machine! As long it's only installed on one computer (software is supposed to be like a book, only one person can use it at a time), you PAID for the right to use it on any computer you want; the only difference I know of between OS and other software is that an OS can only be on one computer, while my copy of Wordperfect can be on several as long as only one is in use at a time. Microsoft probably doesn't have to support it, but we still have a couple of rights left (I hope...). Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. An illegal contract is not binding or enforcable, so their TOS is BS, imho. Any lawyers out there? We need a FAQ on this, I just don't have the knowledge to do it, but this question seems to come up a lot.

 

[alm4rr]

like someone said - if you buy a computer with the OS, you are often "not allowed" to put the OS on other computer you may build on later..

B) You agree'd to Microsoft's terms when you paid for it, if you don't like them don't pay for it.

do you think most people when the buy a pc from dell or buy an upgrade off the shell they can read the EULA that's inside the box when they buy it? Not unless they have Xray glasses to read in the box and then decode all those 001101010's on the disk.

So then they take it home and open it up and start to install it. they read the EULA and oops they don't agree with it. Too bad you can't return opened software.

You seem to give too much weight to the theory of an all informed consumer and the invisible hand.

 

[oniq]

Originally posted by: alm4rr
like someone said - if you buy a computer with the OS, you are often "not allowed" to put the OS on other computer you may build on later..

B) You agree'd to Microsoft's terms when you paid for it, if you don't like them don't pay for it.

do you think most people when the buy a pc from dell or buy an upgrade off the shell they can read the EULA that's inside the box when they buy it? Not unless they have Xray glasses to read in the box and then decode all those 001101010's on the disk.

So then they take it home and open it up and start to install it. they read the EULA and oops they don't agree with it. Too bad you can't return opened software.

You seem to give too much weight to the theory of an all informed consumer and the invisible hand.

Very good point. Thank you all for responding to my thread.

 

[Derango]

Originally posted by: alm4rr
like someone said - if you buy a computer with the OS, you are often "not allowed" to put the OS on other computer you may build on later..

B) You agree'd to Microsoft's terms when you paid for it, if you don't like them don't pay for it.

do you think most people when the buy a pc from dell or buy an upgrade off the shell they can read the EULA that's inside the box when they buy it? Not unless they have Xray glasses to read in the box and then decode all those 001101010's on the disk.

So then they take it home and open it up and start to install it. they read the EULA and oops they don't agree with it. Too bad you can't return opened software.

You seem to give too much weight to the theory of an all informed consumer and the invisible hand.

Don't know about you, but the laptop I bought from dell last year, IIRC, included the EULA on a printed sheet of paper in the box.

 

[Nothinman]

t's not illegal to use an OS on a different machine! As long it's only installed on one computer

It is if it's an OEM version.

you PAID for the right to use it on any computer you want;

Not if you paid for an OEM version.

the only difference I know of between OS and other software is that an OS can only be on one computer, while my copy of Wordperfect can be on several as long as only one is in use at a time.

Even that's not true for all pieces of software. I think MS removed the 'you can legally have Office on 2 machines as long as they're not in use at the same time' clause in the license agreement.

do you think most people when the buy a pc from dell or buy an upgrade off the shell they can read the EULA that's inside the box when they buy it?

If you're buying it with a machine you're buying that OS for that machine, if you have another machine you should have gotten the license from that machine from somewhere else. And anyway, did you ever even ask if you can read a copy of the EULA before buying it? How do you know the stores don't have a copy out of the box for those that ask?

 

[Anubis]

FUSK that install it on your lappy. i got a OEM version of 2k FREE from neweg when i ordered a bunh of stuff for a new comp. it said 102 CPU on it so i went andinstalled it on my 2 comps.

then i went and installed it on about 4 other computers that i did not own.

seein as i didnt pay for it anyway it didnt really matter

 

[blade2]

bah i cant beleive people are being so angelic as someone said about all this, if microsoft doesnt like what i do then bill gates can go screw his 911 GT1 that he never actually drives.... like microsoft and buddies arent already rolling in it, we're expected to get a new copy of Windows for whatever reason!!!

madness i tell u, ur all mad!!! or are u all amd!!??

 

[Nothinman]

FUSK that install it on your lappy. i got a OEM version of 2k FREE from neweg when i ordered a bunh of stuff for a new comp. it said 102 CPU on it so i went andinstalled it on my 2 comps.

You need some help with your reading comprehension and writing skills. They can sell OEM versions with hardware because of law loopholes, I believe, I wouldn't doubt it MS started threatening all the places that do that in the near future. And by 1 or 2 CPU it means it supports SMP configurations up to 2 CPUs, XP Home only supports 1 CPU.

madness i tell u, ur all mad!!! or are u all amd!!??

I'm not mad or AMD, I use Linux so I have a legal way to avoid the issues you're running into.

 

[Spudd]

And there, my friends, is the true reason behind his argument. Hehe.

 

[Nothinman]

And there, my friends, is the true reason behind his argument. Hehe.

My point is, if you don't like their agreement don't agree to it. Otherwise you just put yourself in a worse position because you're more reliant on them and eventually they will have it worked out so you can't pirate their software. There are altnernatives out there, you just have to put some effort into getting yourselv moved to them.

 

[chemwiz]

My point isn't that Microsoft agrees to you running multiple copies on different computers, it's what the law says. Microsoft is putting terms in their EULA that aren't legal; if you "lease" a piece of software, you have certain rights as a consumer, and those aren't forfeited no matter what is in there. Software law is weird, but we do have a few rights when we pay for something. Do you remember when the game companies claimed you couldn't edit a saved game file? This isn't a fight about how bad ms sucks, or if it's ok to steal from them, just trying to clarify the law as I understand it. Basically, in the seminars I attended (12 years ago, so it might be different now), the major points were:
1) If you buy a piece of software, you are entitled to use it however you want, as long as only one copy is in use at a time. This means it can be on your neighbors computer, your kid's computer, your laptop, and all twelve of your other comps, too. But only one person can use it at a time, period. If 2 people are working concecutively, they're in violation of the law.
2) An Operating System can't be used in this manner, it can only be on one computer at a time, but again, ANYONE can use it on threre. But it can also be used on any computer you own, or any computer at all, if you don't have it installed on the original computer anymore. oniq isn't talking about pirating sowtware, just utilizing the rights he has as a consumer.

 

[grunjee]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
Some of us do have morals and try to keep their software use legal.

That is truly noble of you, but what about MS having some morals? I see very little of a sense of morals in their EULA schemes.

It's their code, they worked hard to develop their products. They deserve to make money for their work. No one should pirate their stuff. Simple enough, right?

MS complicates things by using monopolistic, strong-arm, bully tactics. Such as the OEM EULA terms referred to earlier. Common sense tells you that's wrong.

Common sense also tells you that sure, you don't own the software, but when you shell out $200-300 you sure as hell have a right to use it in a practical way.

MS has the power to set the terms, but that doesn't make their terms right or moral. MS rapes a lot of people with their EULA terms and that to me is dispicable.

In some ways I see MS as a communist entity. If you support a communist entity, even if it's your homeland, are you doing the morally correct thing? You can judge for yourself. Supporting something immoral, to me, doesn't make you moral -- it simply perpetuates the immorality.

 

[Nothinman]

1) If you buy a piece of software, you are entitled to use it however you want, as long as only one copy is in use at a time. This means it can be on your neighbors computer, your kid's computer, your laptop, and all twelve of your other comps, too. But only one person can use it at a time, period. If 2 people are working concecutively, they're in violation of the law.

Apparently the law forgot to enforce that when MS released Office and Windows XP with their activation schemes.

2) An Operating System can't be used in this manner, it can only be on one computer at a time, but again, ANYONE can use it on threre. But it can also be used on any computer you own, or any computer at all, if you don't have it installed on the original computer anymore. oniq isn't talking about pirating sowtware, just utilizing the rights he has as a consumer.

He's talking about an OEM version of XP, do you know if there isn't a special clause for them?

That is truly noble of you, but what about MS having some morals?

Most successfull companies don't have morals, MS isn't the only bad guy out there. And since software is a fairly new area they'll be taking advantage of whatever they can for as long as they can.

Supporting something immoral, to me, doesn't make you moral -- it simply perpetuates the immorality.

I don't support them whenever possible, but sometimes it's not possible to get around running Windows.