Using an LCD flat-screen television as a computer monitor?

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My brother told me that I can use my 24" flat screen LCD HD television as a monitor for my computer if I have an HDMI wire. I doubt that this actually possible, what's your say?
 

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It works just fine, I'm doing it on my computer with a 32" LCD TV.

HDMI is just DVI with audio added.
 

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I thought that the maximum resolution of a TV being used as a monitor is below 1024x768.

Nope, that's only true for older video connections. HDMI and component are capable of driving a TV at up to 1920x1080. TVs with VGA ports can go even higher, potentially.
 
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I read that the size of a screen can have a crippling impact on performance while playing performance demanding games like Crysis and GTA IV. The larger the screen, the more stress on the GPU, and the less FPS. Is there any truth to this?

Like running Crysis on 1920x1080 resolution (1080p) on this 65" LCD flat screen for example.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16889101204

Would you get less than half of the FPS if you were to run Crysis on the same settings on an 18" computer monitor?
 
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TVs are designed for being viewered from a farther distance, so the pixels might be more "seperated" ex: less pixels per square inch. Other then that I can't see why not. I would give it a try and see. Today's TVs are much higher res then before, so it might be decent quality.
 

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I read that the size of a screen can have a crippling impact on performance while playing performance demanding games like Crysis and GTA IV. The larger the screen, the more stress on the GPU, and the less FPS. Is there any truth to this?

Like running Crysis on 1920x1080 resolution (1080p) on this 65" LCD flat screen for example.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16889101204

Would you get less than half of the FPS if you were to run Crysis on the same settings on an 18" computer monitor?

The size of the screen doesn't matter, just the resolution. So running at 1920x1080 will have less performance than any resolution below that, and an 18" computer monitor is likely to have a much lower resolution. It could even be 1/4 the resolution, so Crysis would be 4x as taxing on the big screen. That said, 1920x1080 is no longer a terribly high resolution, most high end video cards can handle it with ease.

You can also run a screen at a lower resolution than its native, it just won't look as good since it will take a smaller image and stretch it to fit.
 

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You'll have no problem using a TV as a monitor. Depending on the TV, it may have high dot pitch which means you wont see as "fine" of a picture as on a computer monitor. If you're gaming, the resolution may be high (if it's a 1080p tv) compared to what you're running on your computer monitor so you'll get slower performance. These are actually opposite concerns. The higher the resolution, the better the picture, but the more demanding it will be on your video card.
 

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I thought that the maximum resolution of a TV being used as a monitor is below 1024x768.

depends on the panel.
you have to drive it at native res.
if its a cheap 720p screen then its going to be close to that yes.
24"IS a computer monitor panel pretty much these days. 1080p res at that size is still decent. any bigger and the pixels are spread too thin.
 

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I read that the size of a screen can have a crippling impact on performance while playing performance demanding games like Crysis and GTA IV. The larger the screen, the more stress on the GPU, and the less FPS. Is there any truth to this?

Like running Crysis on 1920x1080 resolution (1080p) on this 65" LCD flat screen for example.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16889101204

Would you get less than half of the FPS if you were to run Crysis on the same settings on an 18" computer monitor?

more pixels is more power hungry, what do you expect? a 30" computer monitor has TWICE the pixels of an 1080p HD screen. so being able to drive an HDTV is hardly excessive. esp compared to a triple eyefinity display.
1080p on a 65" is fun gaming, it is however nothing more than a tv. 1080p res stretched that thin on a screen that big is no good for desktop use.
 

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hm its possible, esp if you have any "image enchaining processing" on
i dunno, maybe someones got a link to an article on this
 

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Your 24" LCD "TV" probably is just a monitor with built in speakers and a tv tuner
 

kalrith

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I heard LCD TVs have terrible input lag compared to a TN LCD monitor.

It depends on a lot of things. Many LCD TVs are PVA panels, which often have high input lag. My IPS-panel 32" TV has very low input lag (averaging 14ms). Also, as already mentioned, turning off all processing on the TV will usually improve input lag.

And to everyone wondering, a TV can make a great monitor. I just replaced my main computer monitor with a 32" TV. Here's another thread on this very same topic: Using an HDTV as a PC monitor.
 

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And yes some displays have higher input lag, depends on the specific panel. Be sure to read up on a specific model before you buy. I game on a 52" DLP and I love it :)
 

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You will want to make sure that the TV in question has a 'game' or 'PC' mode. My roommate hooks his tower up to his 47" 1080p TV on occasion, but he has to switch it to 'game' mode in order for it to look its best. Otherwise it is blurry and crappy.

I personally prefer using monitors as monitors and TVs as TVs. Although monitors are often more expensive, they are better suited for desk use, slightly thinner usually and have more computer inputs (DVI & HDMI & VGA sometimes multiples) It is also difficult to get 1080p on a TV at less than 30".
 

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If you're using HDMI or a DVI to HDMI converter, some TVs don't have a way of turning overscan off, or a means to get 1:1 pixel mapping so you're stuck with a stretched image. This can be annoying.

Most TVs have a VGA port that usually displays properly, so you can get 1366x768 or 1920x1080 or whatever the native resolution of the screen is.
 

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If you're using HDMI or a DVI to HDMI converter, some TVs don't have a way of turning overscan off, or a means to get 1:1 pixel mapping so you're stuck with a stretched image. This can be annoying.

Most TVs have a VGA port that usually displays properly, so you can get 1366x768 or 1920x1080 or whatever the native resolution of the screen is.

I've actually never heard of a current TV without 1:1 pixel mapping via HDMI. I'm not saying they don't exist, but that it seems that most (maybe all) current TVs have this option, although it's sometimes deep within the settings.

The VGA port on most TVs is limited to a lower resolution (usually 1024x768 or 1280x1024), which is obviously not acceptable. Some TVs will display the native res via VGA, but they're in the minority.
 

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I've actually never heard of a current TV without 1:1 pixel mapping via HDMI. I'm not saying they don't exist, but that it seems that most (maybe all) current TVs have this option, although it's sometimes deep within the settings.

The VGA port on most TVs is limited to a lower resolution (usually 1024x768 or 1280x1024), which is obviously not acceptable. Some TVs will display the native res via VGA, but they're in the minority.

Probably because you haven't seen or used a cheap/low-end TV. My "good" TV (a 46" Samsung) has no problems whatsoever, but my cheapo 22" Vizio in my kitchen has no way of turning overscan off for plugging a PC in using a DVI to HDMI cable (the cable works fine with a regular computer monitor). 1920x1080 works fine over VGA though... I won't say the Vizio sucks, as a TV it's pretty decent, but as a computer monitor, no.
 

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Probably because you haven't seen or used a cheap/low-end TV. My "good" TV (a 46" Samsung) has no problems whatsoever, but my cheapo 22" Vizio in my kitchen has no way of turning overscan off for plugging a PC in using a DVI to HDMI cable (the cable works fine with a regular computer monitor). 1920x1080 works fine over VGA though... I won't say the Vizio sucks, as a TV it's pretty decent, but as a computer monitor, no.

Sorry about that. I have to give the user-of-cheap-low-end-TV crown to you :D.