Used 6700k or new 1700?

[Dave2150]

So I'm looking to upgrade my 3570k which is starting to get a little long in the tooth but not sure wherever Zen+ or Cannon Lake will be worth waiting for considering Zen has some issues that I would like to see ironed out first. So far the 1700 looks to be the best value for money once overclocked out of Ryzen however I can get a used Asus Z170-A board for £70 and look for a used 6700k for under £200 which seems to be very good value for money.

Basically what I am asking is what would you do? Mostly used for gaming with some light use of Handbrake, no streaming because of poor internet however that could change within the next year or two.

I'd get the 6700k. It will perform better in games. By the time most games benefit from more than 8 threads, both CPU's will be obsolete.

 

[scannall]

I'd go with the 1700. Not the C6H though. Have a look at MarkFW's setup. A $85 motherboard, and it runs great 24/7 OC'd.

 

[sm625]

Hard to believe that more than half would vote to spend twice as much money on lesser overall performance. If the prices were close there would be an argument either way, but twice as much money? No. Perhaps we've been hacked by Russians?

 

[IEC]

I voted for the used 6700K and Z170 board given the choices in the poll. However, with Ryzen 5 coming out tomorrow, I think it'd be wise to at least wait and see if it is competitive for the tasks that OP uses his computer for.

A R5 1600/mid-range X370 or B350 board combo could come in at a similar price or not much more over the 6700K, and give 6c/12t vs 4c/8t.

 

[Crono]

Hard to believe that more than half would vote to spend twice as much money on lesser overall performance. If the prices were close there would be an argument either way, but twice as much money? No. Perhaps we've been hacked by Russians?

I would have voted R5 1600 if there were an option for it. I have a 1600, 1700X (running on a Crosshair VI Hero), and a 6700K. The 1600 is the best mix of gaming and multithreaded/encoding performance for what the OP wants and price. It's the best value considering it's new and not a delidded (doesn't that void the warranty?) CPU.

I'd vote for the 6700K if it were new and if the 1600 were ruled out... didn't quite follow OP's logic on that, by the way, as you don't need to go all out with the budget for a good motherboard and overclock with Ryzen.

If it were only for gaming, the 6700K would be a no brainer, but Ryzen is excellent for Handbrake.

 

[ImpulsE69]

what exactly constitutes 'long in the tooth' these days? I'm still running a 2500k@4.2 and I can't think of anything that pegs my CPU. Handbrake could I suppose, but who is doing that 24/7 aside from professionals/hobbyists? There are games that are crap optimized -- but I don't tend to day one buy any of those and typically get patched. (or I've just never had issues on them) and I game at 1440p

 

[richierich1212]

Hard to believe that more than half would vote to spend twice as much money on lesser overall performance. If the prices were close there would be an argument either way, but twice as much money? No. Perhaps we've been hacked by Russians?

Would you buy a used, de-lidded CPU? How is a 1700 a bad choice vs. 6700K, especially when you factor in what the OP is using their rig for? A Ryzen R7 offers better overall performance.

 

[Rifter]

Hard to believe that more than half would vote to spend twice as much money on lesser overall performance. If the prices were close there would be an argument either way, but twice as much money? No. Perhaps we've been hacked by Russians?

stock vs stock is one thing, but a delidded warranty void CPU is a reason for concern IMO.

 

[Topweasel]

stock vs stock is one thing, but a delidded warranty void CPU is a reason for concern IMO.

That's my opinion. I think it's a bit silly to only use a C6H and not even contemplate a R5. But even with those stipulations and the relevant price difference, it all goes out the door with the used de-lid. I am not saying anything about the seller but you de-lid for a specific reason. That reason is to overclock the CPU to withing an inch of its life. I couldnt rely on that CPU even free in a primary use computer.

 

[sm625]

As long as I get even just a 7 day guarantee on the delidded 6700k, heck yeah I'd go for that. Crank that up to 5GHz and dumpster the competition.

 

[TemjinGold]

As long as I get even just a 7 day guarantee on the delidded 6700k, heck yeah I'd go for that. Crank that up to 5GHz and dumpster the competition.

So go buy one then. But just because you don't factor reliability into the equation doesn't mean the OP shouldn't. Comparing their prices straight up in this case is disingenuous at best.

If that delid goes to 5ghz, do you think the seller would be selling it?

 

[Topweasel]

So go buy one then. But just because you don't factor reliability into the equation doesn't mean the OP shouldn't. Comparing their prices straight up in this case is disingenuous at best.

If that delid goes to 5ghz, do you think the seller would be selling it?

I was thinking the same thing. You buy a $300+ CPU, you take a big chance in de-liding the CPU. First you do it because you didn't like your overclock and want to get more out of it. So you permanently disfigure the CPU to get more clocks. Within the year you end up trying to sell it. So either he is getting a BW-E, Ryzen, or a 7700. Considering no performance difference clock for clock between KL and SL. If he is getting 5GHz on the 6700, then what would the 7700 have over it? Nothing. So again even if the CPU runs fine, it was de-lidded and probably being sold for less than spectacular overclocking. So unless that happened really recently I would think this has been running consistently at near it's limit for a while.

 

[Rifter]

I was thinking the same thing. You buy a $300+ CPU, you take a big chance in de-liding the CPU. First you do it because you didn't like your overclock and want to get more out of it. So you permanently disfigure the CPU to get more clocks. Within the year you end up trying to sell it. So either he is getting a BW-E, Ryzen, or a 7700. Considering no performance difference clock for clock between KL and SL. If he is getting 5GHz on the 6700, then what would the 7700 have over it? Nothing. So again even if the CPU runs fine, it was de-lidded and probably being sold for less than spectacular overclocking. So unless that happened really recently I would think this has been running consistently at near it's limit for a while.

Exactly, you dont spend all the time and money to delid just to sell, unless the delidding was botched, or the chip just sucks and delidding didnt help and the OC results still suck.

 

[Crumpet]

Can I add a vote for R5 1600X?