Use IBM Java VM?

[Slaimus]

Is there a way to get the IBM Java VM to run on a non-IBM PC? Some sort of emulation layer maybe?

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: Slaimus
Is there a way to get the IBM Java VM to run on a non-IBM PC? Some sort of emulation layer maybe?

Uhm IBM Java VM runs on Wintel hardware just fine. How do you think WebSphere application server works?

 

[kamper]

Yeah dude, haven't you ever used WebSphere on your desktop? Duh!

Really though, what's different about an IBM pc, so long as it's running an x86 processor and an operating system that supports the jvm (should be any common one).

 

[Slaimus]

So there is no way to install the standard JDK, but you can get around it by installing WebSphere?
The one I mean is this: Link

 

[znaps]

What OS are you using?

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: Slaimus
So there is no way to install the standard JDK, but you can get around it by installing WebSphere?
The one I mean is this: Link

Strange, they may not want you to download their stand alone JVM. Either way, installing any of IBM product and grabbing that JVM would definitely work.

 

[kamper]

There are some Sun-related licensing issues that prevent IBM from freely distributing their jvm but they are allowed to do it on their hardware or in support of other java products they sell. Maybe they've built something in that stops it from being installed though

I'm pretty sure I've seen it installed on Dell hardware though, without another IBM product so I think there are ways to get it installed.

 

[Slaimus]

Originally posted by: kamper
There are some Sun-related licensing issues that prevent IBM from freely distributing their jvm but they are allowed to do it on their hardware or in support of other java products they sell. Maybe they've built something in that stops it from being installed though

I'm pretty sure I've seen it installed on Dell hardware though, without another IBM product so I think there are ways to get it installed.

Java is a open standard, and there should not be any issues like patents. Sun's own JVM is bought/licensed from HotSpot.

 

[kamper]

Java is not an open standard. Yes, you can participate in the jcp to define standards but sun holds ultimate veto control over all that goes on there. And the language standard is open so that anyone can try to implement it but you are not allowed to officially claim that your product is Java until you pass sun's test kit, which is far from open. So long as sun controls the name they can stop IBM from distributing.

I didn't know that sun bought vm technology from another company though. Any links to the story/details?