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Anubis

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Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: destrekor
thank you Washington. Did what we couldn't. :(

Hopefully this can be the start of the decline for the media loving to give a good stroking to USC's ego.

No, it just shows how strong the Pac-10 is.

We ended the last season 5-0 in bowl games.

Out of conference wins so far this year:
Ohio State
Utah
Tennessee
Minnesota

Look for USC to spank the crap out of Notre Dame later in the year. Look for Washington to do the same.

they barely escaped Columbus with a win, with OSU handing them a TD with terrible defense on that final drive. Granted, that's how a lot of games go down, but the point being, OSU basically put a stop to USC, and beat the spread. USC will lose another game this season.

Ohio State and Florida in the NCG!!!

yea i support watching ohio state getting their asses handed to them my Florida
 

caboob

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Originally posted by: DanDaManJC
I wonder if / how Jake will play in the pros

Locker will be just fine in the pros. The coach runs a pro-style offense.

 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: destrekor
thank you Washington. Did what we couldn't. :(

Hopefully this can be the start of the decline for the media loving to give a good stroking to USC's ego.

No, it just shows how strong the Pac-10 is.

We ended the last season 5-0 in bowl games.

Out of conference wins so far this year:
Ohio State
Utah
Tennessee
Minnesota

Look for USC to spank the crap out of Notre Dame later in the year. Look for Washington to do the same.

they barely escaped Columbus with a win, with OSU handing them a TD with terrible defense on that final drive. Granted, that's how a lot of games go down, but the point being, OSU basically put a stop to USC, and beat the spread. USC will lose another game this season.

Ohio State and Florida in the NCG!!!

I'd like for them to make another stab at the NCG while I'm still here at OSU. Which means, this is their last year to do so.

I think they'd have to beat PSU at Beaver Stadium to make it to the NCG, which may be difficult/impossible for Pryor. Not that I think PSU is as good as they're rank would indicate, they've definitely been playing to the level of their competition during this begining of the season.
 

Train

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Is Tyrone Willingham the good luck chuck of college coaches? It seems teams always have a breakout year right after he leaves.
 

KentState

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: destrekor
thank you Washington. Did what we couldn't. :(

Hopefully this can be the start of the decline for the media loving to give a good stroking to USC's ego.

No, it just shows how strong the Pac-10 is.

We ended the last season 5-0 in bowl games.

Out of conference wins so far this year:
Ohio State
Utah
Tennessee
Minnesota

Look for USC to spank the crap out of Notre Dame later in the year. Look for Washington to do the same.

they barely escaped Columbus with a win, with OSU handing them a TD with terrible defense on that final drive. Granted, that's how a lot of games go down, but the point being, OSU basically put a stop to USC, and beat the spread. USC will lose another game this season.

Ohio State and Florida in the NCG!!!

I'd like for them to make another stab at the NCG while I'm still here at OSU. Which means, this is their last year to do so.

I don't know if I can take another heart break this soon. Already two football and a basketball championship lost and then bowl game last year and USC this year.
 

Ns1

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a sad day to be a trojan, but I think i'm used to it by now
 

fustercluck

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Washington is easily the most impressive team this year. They stayed with LSU for a long time and now with the huge upset over USC. This is a team that went WINLESS last year. Amazing. Must have one hell of a coach.
 

timosyy

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(unranked) FSU is murdering #7 BYU 54-21 ...

Also, Hokies somehow win (our offense makes me want to cry, and I'm not looking forward to the Miami game next week) + Washington beats USC = good day. partytime!
 

sthaznpride17

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Just came back from the USC/UW game. Epic beyond words, going from seeing my team lose every game last season to upsetting number 3.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: kalster
maybe we need tresell, he puts away the smaller teams but fails the big games, pete carroll is the opposite

more like our offensive coordinator. Past few years have been ugly.

Tressel started by being able to take down everybody when they had fielded a good team. We've had the capable talent but something is amiss. Pryor still needs more work, and Boeckman was always meh. Pryor doesn't always handle pressure well, and well... not really sure what Boeckman's problem ever was. He was predictably hit or miss.

Yup, we need either a better offensive coordinator or for the one we have now to grow a pair.

That said, Pryor himself has been both the shining star and the weakest link. Part of the issue is the fact that mobile quarterbacks have burnt OSU in the past (Stanley Jackson, I'm looking at you) and there is now a distrust of such QBs when they wear the scarlet and grey (never mind that Pryor actually does run downfield unlike Jackson who spent most of his time going sideways).

The other part of the issue is that Pryor is not yet smart enough (or experienced enough) to know when to just pull the ball down and either run for it or just take the sack. Pryor's interceptions come all too often in cases where he ignores an open receiver and throws into double-coverage or cases where he get pressured and makes a wild throw rather than just getting back to the line of scrimmage.

Some of the recent coaching issues that people are seeing are a result of trying to keep things simple enough for Pryor to manage; while he's clearly a gifted athlete, he's not yet a great leader and on-field decision-maker. In terms of the mental game, I think Boeckman was worlds more mature and I think OSU could have won the bowl game last year if they'd played Boeckman rather than Pryor but I understand a desire to get Pryor more experience.

In any case, if/when Pryor gets more comfortable and learns to make better decisions and if OSU can take advantage of that instead of telling him not to run, then they have a shot at getting a more productive system in place. I think that in some ways the UT game today at least showed a willingness to move more towards a pass-centered offense, though the number of pass plays called was still a bit lower than the number of running plays. Overall, Pryor would make an excellent option QB if the offensive coordinator allows things to develop that way.

ZV
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: kalster
maybe we need tresell, he puts away the smaller teams but fails the big games, pete carroll is the opposite

more like our offensive coordinator. Past few years have been ugly.

Tressel started by being able to take down everybody when they had fielded a good team. We've had the capable talent but something is amiss. Pryor still needs more work, and Boeckman was always meh. Pryor doesn't always handle pressure well, and well... not really sure what Boeckman's problem ever was. He was predictably hit or miss.

Yup, we need either a better offensive coordinator or for the one we have now to grow a pair.

That said, Pryor himself has been both the shining star and the weakest link. Part of the issue is the fact that mobile quarterbacks have burnt OSU in the past (Stanley Jackson, I'm looking at you) and there is now a distrust of such QBs when they wear the scarlet and grey (never mind that Pryor actually does run downfield unlike Jackson who spent most of his time going sideways).

The other part of the issue is that Pryor is not yet smart enough (or experienced enough) to know when to just pull the ball down and either run for it or just take the sack. Pryor's interceptions come all too often in cases where he ignores an open receiver and throws into double-coverage or cases where he get pressured and makes a wild throw rather than just getting back to the line of scrimmage.

Some of the recent coaching issues that people are seeing are a result of trying to keep things simple enough for Pryor to manage; while he's clearly a gifted athlete, he's not yet a great leader and on-field decision-maker. In terms of the mental game, I think Boeckman was worlds more mature and I think OSU could have won the bowl game last year if they'd played Boeckman rather than Pryor but I understand a desire to get Pryor more experience.

In any case, if/when Pryor gets more comfortable and learns to make better decisions and if OSU can take advantage of that instead of telling him not to run, then they have a shot at getting a more productive system in place. I think that in some ways the UT game today at least showed a willingness to move more towards a pass-centered offense, though the number of pass plays called was still a bit lower than the number of running plays. Overall, Pryor would make an excellent option QB if the offensive coordinator allows things to develop that way.

ZV

that's precisely what I've been thinking, as have quite a few fellow students.

This season they have shown a desire to give him more on the field, but he hasn't given them back the same trust he will make the better decisions.
Last year it was obvious when comparing to past years that it wasn't all in the player change, but in the play calling. They just didn't give him a lot of real option, and when they did, he kind of butchered it.
Sadly, whenever Boeckman came into play last year, he really screwed his chances by looking like shit. He had better days, and if given even half the number of plays Pryor had would have produced better results in the end - but when you get a guy up there, give him three plays and he completely throws them away, it's not a hard decision to put back the inexperienced guy who at least made something happen one or two plays out of three.

And sometimes it definitely isn't the QB at fault, or they get to capitalize on other circumstances.
For instance, today with the Toledo game, the receivers were always open.
I've never seen Dane Sanzenbacher get so much action or attention. I was enjoying that fact too, considering Dane is from Toledo, from one of my highschool's big competitors, a year younger. And have a schoolmate (brother of one of my good childhood buddies at that) a sophomore at UM, starter too I think.
 
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Haha... Stanford, Oregon St, Washington...

USC continues their proud tradition of losing one stupid game every year to a team they should beat 72-0 with second stringers. :laugh:
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: KentState
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: destrekor
thank you Washington. Did what we couldn't. :(

Hopefully this can be the start of the decline for the media loving to give a good stroking to USC's ego.

No, it just shows how strong the Pac-10 is.

We ended the last season 5-0 in bowl games.

Out of conference wins so far this year:
Ohio State
Utah
Tennessee
Minnesota

Look for USC to spank the crap out of Notre Dame later in the year. Look for Washington to do the same.

they barely escaped Columbus with a win, with OSU handing them a TD with terrible defense on that final drive. Granted, that's how a lot of games go down, but the point being, OSU basically put a stop to USC, and beat the spread. USC will lose another game this season.

Ohio State and Florida in the NCG!!!

I'd like for them to make another stab at the NCG while I'm still here at OSU. Which means, this is their last year to do so.

I don't know if I can take another heart break this soon. Already two football and a basketball championship lost and then bowl game last year and USC this year.

Like Vrolok mentioned, if we get past PSU and the rest of the season, we'll have proved our team is a little more hardy this year.

OSU gave USC a damn good run, had them struggling for awhile until OSU threw it away. Pryor definitely struggled in the 1 minute offense. Hell, you could almost see him just wanting to go huddle in a corner. He looked like shit, but in the end, it gave him more experience. He's proved to be capable when he can capitalize on other circumstances, he just needs the experience to learn to recover when the options are erased.

As for heartbreak, well... I'm getting rather numb to heartbreak from OSU now. I'm so used to it.
Aside from constantly beating Michigan, OSU hasn't gave me a lot to be super ecstatic over when the season is over.
At least now beating PSU will mean something, as does Illinois to me since I saw them beat us at home two years ago, my sophomore year.
And then PSU beat us at home. The day I raised the flag when my parents came to visit.
And this year, they just happened to lose to USC on my birthday.

On top of the constant struggle to even look decent at a bowl game or the NCG, it's just getting to be rather depressing. I guess the gamble of the NCG would give me one more glimmer of hope for my last year. A loss would be a serious downer, but it would at least be something.

And if it were to be against an opponent we've recently lost to in a bowl game, the thought of revenge would be worthwhile. Would be one hell of a party night if we were to escape victorious too. :)
 
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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Ughhh stupid Trojans. Our win in 2 weeks won't be as epic anymore :(

You aren't going to win. You don't qualify as a 'stupid loss'...

You're not a 2-win Stanford team... You're not a countless losing streak Washington team.

Sorry. You're more like Ohio State if that makes you feel better.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: kalster
maybe we need tresell, he puts away the smaller teams but fails the big games, pete carroll is the opposite

Super embarrassing loss to a loser team or super embarrassing loss in a major bowl game...

Not sure which is worse. On the one hand its a super loser team that gives you a loss and keeps you out of the NCG, on the other you end the season with a loss...
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Ughhh stupid Trojans. Our win in 2 weeks won't be as epic anymore :(
You aren't going to win. You don't qualify as a 'stupid loss'...

You're not a 2-win Stanford team... You're not a countless losing streak Washington team.

Sorry. You're more like Ohio State if that makes you feel better.
I think Washington will be in the top 5 of the Pac-10 by the end of the season if they keep playing the way they did.