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'USA's new money-saving export: White-collar jobs'
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What about a protective type tariff, companies that have a certain percentage of the company based outside the US will be charged a moderate to high import fee, thus cutting into profits, just make it more economically feasible for the company to hire americans and the problem is fixed.
UltraQuiet
Banned
IT jobs going to India save companies 70% on labor costs. How exactly do you overcome that?
Zebo
Elite Member
Hard to argue against this without envoking "nationlism" (which I have no problem with since it's just a negative poitically charged term wich really means supporting your own economy and people) But the japanese will not buy our rice no matter that it's 4x less the price and tastes the same. And that american car is not crap, this is just plain ridiculus, maybe only 80% as good as a BMW or Toyota in build quality. IMO a cheap price to pay to employ americans as much as possible so they can buy from me later. And don't give me this "they build the Camary here" stuff either. All they do is assemble them here from parts from around the globe to escape paying 12.5% tarriffs. It's a scam to escape taxes. While employing a small muber of assembles and hardly any american suppliers like PPG glass and paint, Dana Axels, Delco electronics etc etc etc like the american manufactures do.
UltraQuiet
Banned
Not to mention the fact that the profits ultimately end up out of the country and not Detroit.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Good job telling it like it is Zebo, No Blinders here.
However the American Car Companies must start backing up their product. We have two Dodge vehicles now (1998 and a 2000) and neither one of them can make it to 80,000 without needing complete overhauls and super costly repairs.
My wife's 2000 Neon has already needed a new Transmission at 36,400 miles, 400 miles out of Warranty so they wanted $2,000 for the repair. Then at 64,000 miles the Head on the engine self destructed and we paid another $2,000 for a new head.
When my 1998 Caravan hit 88,000 miles last week the thing flipped out while I was driving, all the lights on the dash starting flashing and the thing started bucking like a wild bull. I pulled off the road, shut it off and then re-started it. It has been running pretty much OK except for an occasional engine miss that it never had before but the Cruise Control is completely dead.
After these two vehicles I am forced to buy Foreign for my next purchases. I had a Ford Taurus before the Van and the engine self destructed at 63,000 miles and Ford would not stand behind the product either. I won't try a newer GM product because they consume way too much fuel.
BaliBabyDoc
Lifer
I don't know how much rice you've sampled but I've never had anything cultivated in America that even marginally approaches Thai or Japanese . . . then again the little Asian women cooking tend not to buy Uncle Ben's.
UltraQuiet
Banned
Little Asian women can cook, too? Whouda thunk it.
Zebo
Elite Member
Well of course this would be good. But try and convince wall street and these bought and piad for politians of this please. I agree with Dave MCGowen ..
The problem is they don't care about americans as a whole and are "serving" in political positions for themselves and the corporate machine. It's really unstoppable unless we make personel choices. Heres one of my forvorate quotes:
"Joe Smith started the day early, having set his alarm clock (MADE IN JAPAN) for 6 a.m. While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG). He put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA), designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE) and tennis shoes (MADE IN KOREA).
After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet (MADE IN INDIA), he sat down with his calculator (MADE IN MEXICO) to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch (MADE IN TAIWAN) to the radio (MADE IN
INDIA) he got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY) and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.
At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day, Joe decided to relax for a while.
He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL) poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE) and turned on his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA), and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in.....AMERICA "
BaliBabyDoc
Lifer
Well . . . little old Asian women . . . can cook.
Zebo
Elite Member
Please read this Then this Rice Tariffication in Japan: What Does It Mean for Trade?
The United States gives access to our markets however every partner we trade with resricts foreign markets in return. Thanks. Plus they still are nationistic as we should be.
Here are some stats: The US highest tarrif is 12.5%
Argentina 20% for U.S. imports
Australia 10% Duty
Brazil 40% for U.S. imports
China 100% Tariff
Egypt 70% Tariff
India 136% Tariff
Israel 15% Duty
Korea 35% Tariff
Philippines 50% Tariff
Venezuela 80% Tariff
Then they just steel everything like Software form microsoft, music, and any designs or patents we have they could give two shi$ts about.
Zebo
Elite Member
Free trade has also devestated third world countries But your coporate masters will continue to push the lie of effecientcy and profits. Sure for the fortune 500 it's great.
Zebo
Elite Member
If tariffs on foreign goods are such a bad idea then why this "EU steelmakers say they stand to lose $2bn a year to the US tariffs. " And "But steel producers in China, Brazil, Japan, South Korea, Norway, New Zealand, and Russia are expected to be hard hit by the US tariffs. " Sounds good to me. If they are hit hard that means we are doing well and employing people here.
Screw them. If they don't want to let our goods in because of nationalism or tariffs why should we? The way it is now every other country restricts our goods while we have traitors here given thier money away to these very same people who wont buy from us or can't buy from us because the tariffs make our goods cost prohibitive.. That's right traitors. Link
Screw them. If they don't want to let our goods in because of nationalism or tariffs why should we? The way it is now every other country restricts our goods while we have traitors here given thier money away to these very same people who wont buy from us or can't buy from us because the tariffs make our goods cost prohibitive.. That's right traitors. Link
My doughter works for General Electric Locomotime division and the tech reps in her office are--2 chinese-1 indian--2 tiwanese--1 german 1 mexican and 1 american.
Why? because they have somekind of tax encintive to hire these people and keep them for 18 months. Good Policy.
Bleep
Why? because they have somekind of tax encintive to hire these people and keep them for 18 months. Good Policy.
Bleep
BaliBabyDoc
Lifer
Oh there's little doubt that US exporters get the bone when it comes to international trade policy. My sole contribution to this thread is to say no self respecting little old Asian woman (that I know) buys Uncle Ben's . . . they don't sell it at any Asian market I've frequented.
BaliBabyDoc
Lifer
Thai up in arms over Jasmine
I must agree . . . who would want American jasmine or American basmati?
Because of the high value of Asian rice strains American companies have been vigorously trying to get a share of the markets for these popular strains of rice. Recently, the Indian government learned that its traditional basmati rice exports will be undercut at a cost of close to $200 million a year by a genetically modified strain that is a Texas grown version of India's Basmati Rice created by the US Biotech firm RiceTec Inc.16 The Jasmati rice is actually derived from a combination of Italian Bertone rice and a US variety called Della.18 Yet the company is able to mislead consumers into believing they are getting a combination of jasmine and basmati rice, the two most popular imported rice strains in the US.
In fact, a recent market survey completed by the Thai commercial attache in Washington illustrated that more than half of the consumers in the US bought Jasmati because they believed it was related to jasmine and basmati rice.19
Jasmine rice is one of the most sought after strains of rice in the world and is grown by over 5 million families in Thailand many of whom are in debt and very poor. In 1999 the average income of farming households was 26,822 baht (US$600) significantly lower than the average household earning of 78,875 baht (about $1800).3 If the small-scale farmers in Thailand lose the markets for jasmine rice, in particular its main buyer the US, then the viability of their livelihood will be threatened in the future. Ms. Bayoong, a jasmine rice farmer from the central region of Thailand said, "If Americans started growing rice it would affect us for sure, it would make the price of rice fall even further. I don't know if my family can take another hit like that."4 Ms. Bayoong is not exaggerating. While jasmine rice accounts for about 25 percent of Thailand's overall yearly rice export, jasmine rice makes up more than 90 percent of the Thai rice that reaches America each year. Last year, Thailand exported 243,000 tons of rice to the US, its biggest buyer, 200,000 tons of which was jasmine rice.5 An American strain of jasmine rice under the control of large agro-industrial companies would greatly undercut that market, striking against the small-scale farmers in Thailand who are already struggling for survival.
According to an agreement with the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) researchers requesting seeds from the institute must follow the Material Transfer Agreement (MTA), which firmly states the recipient cannot seek to patent or monopolize donated seeds from the Institute. Yet Deren never completed an MTA upon receiving "Jasmine Rice 105" seeds from IRRI.10
I must agree . . . who would want American jasmine or American basmati?
Because of the high value of Asian rice strains American companies have been vigorously trying to get a share of the markets for these popular strains of rice. Recently, the Indian government learned that its traditional basmati rice exports will be undercut at a cost of close to $200 million a year by a genetically modified strain that is a Texas grown version of India's Basmati Rice created by the US Biotech firm RiceTec Inc.16 The Jasmati rice is actually derived from a combination of Italian Bertone rice and a US variety called Della.18 Yet the company is able to mislead consumers into believing they are getting a combination of jasmine and basmati rice, the two most popular imported rice strains in the US.
In fact, a recent market survey completed by the Thai commercial attache in Washington illustrated that more than half of the consumers in the US bought Jasmati because they believed it was related to jasmine and basmati rice.19
Jasmine rice is one of the most sought after strains of rice in the world and is grown by over 5 million families in Thailand many of whom are in debt and very poor. In 1999 the average income of farming households was 26,822 baht (US$600) significantly lower than the average household earning of 78,875 baht (about $1800).3 If the small-scale farmers in Thailand lose the markets for jasmine rice, in particular its main buyer the US, then the viability of their livelihood will be threatened in the future. Ms. Bayoong, a jasmine rice farmer from the central region of Thailand said, "If Americans started growing rice it would affect us for sure, it would make the price of rice fall even further. I don't know if my family can take another hit like that."4 Ms. Bayoong is not exaggerating. While jasmine rice accounts for about 25 percent of Thailand's overall yearly rice export, jasmine rice makes up more than 90 percent of the Thai rice that reaches America each year. Last year, Thailand exported 243,000 tons of rice to the US, its biggest buyer, 200,000 tons of which was jasmine rice.5 An American strain of jasmine rice under the control of large agro-industrial companies would greatly undercut that market, striking against the small-scale farmers in Thailand who are already struggling for survival.
According to an agreement with the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) researchers requesting seeds from the institute must follow the Material Transfer Agreement (MTA), which firmly states the recipient cannot seek to patent or monopolize donated seeds from the Institute. Yet Deren never completed an MTA upon receiving "Jasmine Rice 105" seeds from IRRI.10
Zebo
Elite Member
Who buys uncle bens bali? We produce the same strains they have and consume...Cheaper and they still won't buy. Same goes for capital equipment (tools/robots used to make consumenr goods) ..
Prsonally, I buy California Organic short grain brown rice from wildoats @ $70 for 50lbs... but no uncle bens..
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