USANext Stages Swiftboat-Style Attack Ad Against AARP

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: conjur
'USA Next' Misappropriated Couples' Image for Anti-Gay Ad Campaign; Couple: Image Stolen for Campaign Against AARP

You know I saw that this morning, and my first reaction was, "What makes USA Next believe that the AARP is for gay marriages?" Am I missing something here?!?

This isn't about any "reality", it's about creating another "boogeyman". They want to create an enemy, if only planted in people's mind, that says, "If the AARP is against it, then I'm for it."

 

[JimKiler]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: conjur
'USA Next' Misappropriated Couples' Image for Anti-Gay Ad Campaign; Couple: Image Stolen for Campaign Against AARP

You know I saw that this morning, and my first reaction was, "What makes USA Next believe that the AARP is for gay marriages?" Am I missing something here?!?

This isn't about any "reality", it's about creating another "boogeyman". They want to create an enemy, if only planted in people's mind, that says, "If the AARP is against it, then I'm for it."

I am not sure how telling people that the AARP supports gay marriage will effect Social Security reform. But then again I am not sure why AARP cares about Social Security when they are not affect by any changes.

 

[SuperTool]

The main problem with SS is it's lending the government money at too low of a rate. It basically buys the lowest interest paying bonds. And now Bushistas don't even want to pay those back.

 

[her209]

USANext is getting sued by gay couple whose picture was used without consent in ad against AARP.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's an exquisite bit of irony, her209. I'd have tears in my eyes as big as horseturds if they pounded USANext for $10M or so... just about what the bastids are planning to spend on their slime campaign...

Heh. Not often I get a chuckle from the antics of the far right.

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.spectator.org/

Check out the USANext ad on that page.


The right is going to attempt a swiftboat liars-style campaign to smear the AARP as "too liberal". Something tells me this is going to come back and hit them in the face.

conjour, everytime you link to a liberal bias page, or grassroots movement page, or whatever you want to call them (move-on.org related page) its like me trying to make a point by linking to a some conservative bias news on foxnews.com. its bias op'ed, or ediatorals. it mkaes your point loose total relvance and backbone. same as if i tired to post a point in in the same manner witha foxnews page, you would be like ohh...whatever it came form foxnews.

see you think my eyes are skewed, but when i see you directing all your links to all the same kinda of online sources, it shows your skewing all your basis from the left. no hard inwavergin fact finding. now, i know sometyimes to touch the right sublject you have to uses these source, but comeone on, all of em!?!?

2nd, i dont think AARP is liberal, the way they hide themselves as a non profit, yet make millions of dollara year on stock investements, na ddont put the money back into the compnay to reduce memebrships, kinda bothers me.


anyways....i have only dove into politic son these forums for about a week now, and im already tired of it, its to entrenched in here. and there is too much hate rehetoric going a round. so im not even going to debate in that envoirnment, i t just turns me off.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.spectator.org/

Check out the USANext ad on that page.


The right is going to attempt a swiftboat liars-style campaign to smear the AARP as "too liberal". Something tells me this is going to come back and hit them in the face.

conjour, everytime you link to a liberal bias page, or grassroots movement page, or whatever you want to call them (move-on.org related page) its like me trying to make a point by linking to a some conservative bias news on foxnews.com. its bias op'ed, or ediatorals.

2nd, i dont think AARP is liberal, the way they hide themselves as a non profit, yet make millions of dollara year on stock investements, na ddont put the money back into the compnay to reduce memebrships, kinda bothers me.

Ummm... just look at the ad.

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.spectator.org/

Check out the USANext ad on that page.


The right is going to attempt a swiftboat liars-style campaign to smear the AARP as "too liberal". Something tells me this is going to come back and hit them in the face.

conjour, everytime you link to a liberal bias page, or grassroots movement page, or whatever you want to call them (move-on.org related page) its like me trying to make a point by linking to a some conservative bias news on foxnews.com. its bias op'ed, or ediatorals.

2nd, i dont think AARP is liberal, the way they hide themselves as a non profit, yet make millions of dollara year on stock investements, na ddont put the money back into the compnay to reduce memebrships, kinda bothers me.

Ummm... just look at the ad.

im just sying on both sides, everyone is linking all there fact finding data etc etc to bia side story pages... i know he was just showing an ad.... and after looking into the page looks more of a right wing page. The web is polluted with these pages. both sides, left and right. and everyone uses them to past thier JOLY links of here are my facts, im right your wrong.... just saying.

cant find the ad though

 

[conjur]

Lawsuit over USANext's AARP ad
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/...war_room/2005/03/09/usanext/index.html

Remember USANext's smear job on AARP -- the internet-only ad that tried to marginalize the AARP out of the Social Security debate by suggesting that the group has something against American soldiers but loves gay marriage? Rick Raymen and Steve Hansen haven't forgotten. They're the Oregon couple shown kissing in the USANext ad. Today in Washington, they filed a $25 million lawsuit against USANext.

"Our privacy and personal integrity were violated when our wedding photo was stolen and used to portray us as treasonous, unpatriotic, and a threat to American troops," Raymen said in a statement released to the press today. "We have been harassed and humiliated by this hateful ad campaign and by the bigotry and anger it has generated against us nationwide."

In their lawsuit, Raymen and Hansen allege that USANext's use of their photograph -- which was copied without permission from the Portland Tribune -- amounted to an invasion of privacy, a violation of their right to control their own images, libel and the intentional infliction of emotional distress. The suit names as defendants both USANext and the political consulting firm Mark Montini International, which apparently created the ad.

According to the Tribune, Montini may have tried to cover his tracks for using the photo without the paper's permission; after the ad appeared, Montini visited the Tribune's Web site and tried to purchase a similar photograph of Raymen and Hansen. The Tribune stopped him, and Montini sent an email message to the Tribune's photo department in which he said it looked "more and more like we did make a mistake and ran with the ad prior to getting your approval." USANext President Charlie Jarvis apologized to the Tribune for using the photograph without permission -- and blamed the Montini firm for it. "We hired this company to buy commercial rights for anything we use on our Web site," Jarvis told the Tribune. "There will be beatings of a severe nature. In business terms that means fines and penalties. I?ll have to go back to the group and find out what?s going on."

Jarvis has offered no such apology or explanation to Raymen and Hansen. "They ought to be suing all the left-wing blogs for circulating this [ad]," Jarvis told the Washington Post last week. "That's who they ought to be asking for an apology."

Raymen and Hansen aren't taking that kill-the-messenger approach. Their lawyer, Christopher Wolf, said in a statement that the couple's lawsuit will make USANext and Montini pay for conscripting Raymen and Hansen for their political campaign. ?Our lawsuit seeks to hold the defendants accountable for taking two private citizens and maliciously making them targets for homophobic bigots," Wolf said. "Our clients did not volunteer to be models in a right-wing hate campaign. There are serious legal consequences for deploying them against their will."

I hope they win!!

 

[lozina]

Yeah just heard that on the radio - that's hillarious!

Instant Karma!

 

[aidanjm]

Today in Washington, they filed a $25 million lawsuit against USANext.

how amusing. if the two men win their case, who would decide the payout? a jury? it would be hilarious if usa next was forced into bankruptcy over this.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Today in Washington, they filed a $25 million lawsuit against USANext.

how amusing. if the two men win their case, who would decide the payout? a jury? it would be hilarious if usa next was forced into bankruptcy over this.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed!